Nigel Pearson doesn't rate Matt Mills

[smokey]

Matty Elliotts daughter i think, Jade Elliott aka miss leicester!

It is true! I have a freind whos wife is best mates with her Mum! Mills has just brought a house too in Leicester for 1.2 million! He is also on about 40k a week here! Fact!

[norwegianfox]

I don't understand all the hate/slating of Mills. I've seen roughly 50% of the games live on TV and I believe that he is a solid defender. Sure, his passing is somewhat wayward at times but he is an excellent shot blocker. Is it his price tag who makes people here hate him so much? I fully agree that for now, the Morgan/St Ledger combination is working great. But I also think it is nice to have a solid defender like Mills waiting in thew wings if/when injuries or suspensions kick in. Naturally Mills must accept that he is not an automatic first choise but then again no players, bar Schmeichel, should be automatic first choise. It all depends of form and off course the system we're playing.

His commitment and reactions towards fans is of course a big issue. However, I read on this forum that he had to delete his Twitter acount due to receiving abuse from Leicester fans. If he also receivs this abuse from the stands during games then who could blame him for looking both nervous during games or seeming uninterested towards fans?

Give him a break. If he knuckles down and start fighting to retain his place, then we supporters should give him a chance to proove himself. I remember a City legend, Steve Walsh, having a nightmare start at his Leicester career being sent of on numerous occations. But he did turn out to be a good signing in the end, didn't he?

[jamesmilner]

ive heard that hes been asked to go out on loan . pearson hasnt spoke to him to fall out .dont know if its true(birmingham). its the old thread title ," pearson just doesnt rate him ."

[Happy Fox]

ive heard that hes been asked to go out on loan . pearson hasnt spoke to him to fall out .dont know if its true(birmingham). its the old thread title ," pearson just doesnt rate him ."

Don't quite understand what you are saying. Do we want him to go out on loan, i.e NP wants rid, or has Mills asked to leave out on loan?

[jamesmilner]

just heard mills has been asked if he wants to go out onloan . whats difficult to understand about that ?

[Out Foxed]

ive heard that hes been asked to go out on loan . pearson hasnt spoke to him to fall out .dont know if its true(birmingham). its the old thread title ," pearson just doesnt rate him ."

weird that you say that cos when he was looking for a house. he specifically was looking for one close to Bham, i assumed for the shopping. this was a few weeks ago now (maybe even a month).

[Happy Fox]

just heard mills has been asked if he wants to go out onloan . whats difficult to understand about that ?

Oh right I see cheers for the info.

[cuddly ken]

Can't believe the amount of people on here taking great pleasure from the Mills situation.

Let's take a step back here as no one really knows what went on.

If he got the hump after being dropped then fine, all players should want to play.

It could be a case of pride before a fall here who really knows.

You really have to point the finger at Sven too for offering Mills the world to come here. That was wrong and unfair on other players who had signed on the basis they would get a fair chance of 1st team football if they did well.

No player is perfect, take Bamba last night came on made two sloppy passes which put us under pressure, that doesnt make him a bad player, these things happen.

No player or indeed manager is too big for the club do lets hope this can be sorted to the advantage of LCFC as soon as possible after all we have some big games coming up.

[jamesmilner]

Can't believe the amount of people on here taking great pleasure from the Mills situation.

Let's take a step back here as no one really knows what went on.

If he got the hump after being dropped then fine, all players should want to play.

It could be a case of pride before a fall here who really knows.

You really have to point the finger at Sven too for offering Mills the world to come here. That was wrong and unfair on other players who had signed on the basis they would get a fair chance of 1st team football if they did well.

No player is perfect, take Bamba last night came on made two sloppy passes which put us under pressure, that doesnt make him a bad player, these things happen.

No player or indeed manager is too big for the club do lets hope this can be sorted to the advantage of LCFC as soon as possible after all we have some big games coming up.

i dont rate mills now , didnt from the start , dont think people are on a bandwagon as such , he might be a great player , but he just hasnt been that great player at the city , im quite sure thats a fact .

one thing clear from pearson last night that WE DO know, is pearson HAS said he hasnt even spoke to him . if that is true(AND I DONT SEE PEARSON AS A LIAR) , how can they have had a fall out in person as such ! and if youve recorded the game on sky listen to pearsons parting words in his after game interview when questioned about mills , "good try" , it ll come out soon , got to !

[Bert]

Training with rezzies/youth team.

[Happy Fox]

Training with rezzies/youth team.

That should wake his ego up

[UpTheLeagueFox]

Can't believe the amount of people on here taking great pleasure from the Mills situation.

I don't think anyone is taking pleasure from the situation. I don't want to see Big Time Charlies who are not as good as they think they are playing for my club. If this gives Mills a reality check and he ups his game and has the right attitude then happy days. When he comes off the bench to head the FA Cup winner in extra time at Wembley we'll all be happy.

[Mission Unlikely Promotion]

Mills will come good again, im sure of that

[Thracian]

ive heard that hes been asked to go out on loan . pearson hasnt spoke to him to fall out .dont know if its true(birmingham). its the old thread title ," pearson just doesnt rate him ."

Pearson's been boss at Southampton and a good many there didn't rate Mills there either. And certainly not in the £5m plus bracket.

[Thracian]

Mills will come good again, im sure of that

What do you mean "again". Has there been a stage in his career when he's stopped giving the ball away? Yes, he makes some determined last ditch tackles and blocks and can have a commanding presence in the air on a good day but so much of what he does is then wasted by how flippantly he gives possession away.

I cannot imagine it's not been mentioned by the management or that he's not been made aware of it in other ways but still he refuses to change and there's barely a game goes by when he doesn't saunter out with the ball, ignore all the easy options around him, and hoof half a dozen ill-flighted planet-crossers either into wilderness or down the ravenous throat of a waiting defender.

Which all means more defensive pressure to sustain for no reason - and an irritating misfire when we're attacking. TYo me it seems like he doesn't want to change - that he feels vulnerable giving the 10-yard pass because he knows he'd struggle to recover if it goes wrong. But isn't that what you pay for in an expensive centre-back - someone who can defend but who can retain possession as well?

Mills just doesn't tick enough boxes.

Some players in our squad - Dyer, Danns, Beckford, Kasper, St Leger - seem prepared to work at any aspect of their game that might make themselves better players either as individuals or within the team.

All seem to have improved under Pearson. Mills doesn't seem to have changed at all. No, that doesn't mean I think he's a lousy centre-half. I just don't see him as either the best we have available or the best that he can be.

[kingfox]

Thracian ^^^

Quality little rant there 10/10.

God knows why some of our fans say he will come good, next season he will be excellent and some even rate him highly.

Don't them people go to matches, he is SHIT end of.

[Mission Unlikely Promotion]

Thracian ^^^

Quality little rant there 10/10.

God knows why some of our fans say he will come good, next season he will be excellent and some even rate him highly.

Don't them people go to matches, he is SHIT end of.

i prefer to get behind Leicester players, yeah we all know he has had some bad games but i also happen to think he can be a good player on his day

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

Always though Mills was a bit of a dick, thiks he is better than he is and only came here for the money. If its true that he is on 40k a week than that is disgraceful.

Why we paid a massive fee for him I dont know, looked avergae at best really, and even if he wasnt on bad terms with NP he would atill be down the pecking order IMO.

[Guest Col city fan]

Thracian ^^^

Quality little rant there 10/10.

God knows why some of our fans say he will come good, next season he will be excellent and some even rate him highly.

Don't them people go to matches, he is SHIT end of.

You mean Beckford?

Hallelujah...

Oh bollox you were on about Mills...

lol

[Saxondale]

I think everybody needs to adopt a bit of Pearson mentality and forget about the pricetag etc, which has made him a bit of a target.

He hasn't been great, so he's been dropped in favour of defenders in better form.

But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be behind him as a member of the Leicester squad. He needs to feel that the fans are 100% backing him so that, when he plays, he has the confidence and desire to perform.

If Pearson thinks he worthy of a place back in the team, he will put him back in - simple as.

[Mission Unlikely Promotion]

I think everybody needs to adopt a bit of Pearson mentality and forget about the pricetag etc, which has made him a bit of a target.

He hasn't been great, so he's been dropped in favour of defenders in better form.

But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be behind him as a member of the Leicester squad. He needs to feel that the fans are 100% backing him so that, when he plays, he has the confidence and desire to perform.

If Pearson thinks he worthy of a place back in the team, he will put him back in - simple as.

Very well said

[kingfox]

People don't seem to get it.

There is many of obvious reason's why the fans don't like Mills and are on his back, I happily support my team and stick by players, but in Mills's case it's entirely different.

From day 1 I knew that he would be a terrible signing, his passing against Real Madrid was woeful, and against Rotherham he struggled.

Matt Mills at the end of the day, is a poor player who has been dramatically overrated by the fans. They need to face the fact, that we have yet again wasted high sums of money on a poor player. He simply doesn't have the right frame of mind to improve as a footballer, his attributes and all round game lack serious quality. When he tries to play a simple ball to the midfield, he gives the ball away, he plays too much hoof ball which frankly don't get teams anywhere, I can only count one successful team who played hoofball and got promoted, and that was Watford in 2005-2006 I think it was.

Matt Mills simply doesn't have the game, and temperament. Those two things have frustrated the fans, and therefore that's why they have got on his back. Yes he is a Leicester born lad, who has basically said he loves the club and is committed; however those are simply words and he doesn't really show his commitment and passion on the pitch. He get's easily frustrated, he makes rash judgements and doesn't show passion. His body language at times this season, has been shocking to witness. In one match, think it was Millwall in our drubbing at home, he was getting absolutely skinned left right and centre, you could tell how frustrated he was getting, and he was just flying his boot in anyhow just to get the ball, and when Peltier got it and cleared it, Mills started having a go at other players, rather than taking the blame himself, when it was his fault in the first place.

That behaviour and body language simply doesn't warrant praise and sympathy. Fans need to get it in their heads if they like it or not, that yet again we have unfortunately paid large sums of money for a poor player.

[Corky]

Yeah, we get it, you don't like him.

Some do though and will support him.

[Guest Col city fan]

People don't seem to get it.

There is many of obvious reason's why the fans don't like Mills and are on his back, I happily support my team and stick by players, but in Mills's case it's entirely different.

From day 1 I knew that he would be a terrible signing, his passing against Real Madrid was woeful, and against Rotherham he struggled.

Matt Mills at the end of the day, is a poor player who has been dramatically overrated by the fans. They need to face the fact, that we have yet again wasted high sums of money on a poor player. He simply doesn't have the right frame of mind to improve as a footballer, his attributes and all round game lack serious quality. When he tries to play a simple ball to the midfield, he gives the ball away, he plays too much hoof ball which frankly don't get teams anywhere, I can only count one successful team who played hoofball and got promoted, and that was Watford in 2005-2006 I think it was.

Matt Mills simply doesn't have the game, and temperament. Those two things have frustrated the fans, and therefore that's why they have got on his back. Yes he is a Leicester born lad, who has basically said he loves the club and is committed; however those are simply words and he doesn't really show his commitment and passion on the pitch. He get's easily frustrated, he makes rash judgements and doesn't show passion. His body language at times this season, has been shocking to witness. In one match, think it was Millwall in our drubbing at home, he was getting absolutely skinned left right and centre, you could tell how frustrated he was getting, and he was just flying his boot in anyhow just to get the ball, and when Peltier got it and cleared it, Mills started having a go at other players, rather than taking the blame himself, when it was his fault in the first place.

That behaviour and body language simply doesn't warrant praise and sympathy. Fans need to get it in their heads if they like it or not, that yet again we have unfortunately paid large sums of money for a poor player.

I think it's fascinating what makes fans take players to their hearts, whilst others are shunned and eventually, in some cases, despised.

Mills is a great case in point.

When he was signed it was at the start of 'Svens new season'. I would say pretty much all of us thought he was going to be a great signing and didn't really give a flip about what he cost.

He was seen as Svens first 'big name signing' and Sven was roundly praised for getting him away from Reading.

Fair enough, some were concerned because some Reading fans weren't sure about him. But generally the majority were pleased.

It's not really until he's been dropped that most fans on here have started to slate Mills. As I said earlier, there was a thread put up a couple of weeks ago, only a couple of weeks ago, to raise some concerns about Mills. I can't think who started the thread, his name evades me, but even then, most people came on to sarcastically criticise the OP about even daring to suggest this about Mills. Two such people, if my memory serves me rightly, we're Cap Shrapnel and Salieri.

I personally felt that the OP ( was it 'Grewks') had a point and that Mills should be dropped for the Norwich game as he needed a kick up the arse.

Now he has been dropped and rumours abound that he has a 'bad attitude', the bandwagon has been metaphorically jumped on and very quickly he's seen by many people now as being poor.

You sir, are quite correct IMO.

Mills has always looked nothing other than a very average centre back. I've gone on record to say that his distribution is among the worst I've ever seen from any centre back the club has had.. And I'm going back to the days of Jimmy willis and Brian Carey!!

I've also said it was a major shame IMO that Sven sold Hobbs.. A bright young centre back, to sign Mills supposedly because Mills could bring the ball out of defence, whereas Hobbs couldn't.

I personally have the same views as you have about Mills, but with Jermaine Beckford. Again, Becks was signed to a fanfare of adulation. Well done Sven, most claimed, for capturing his signature. However, the reality has been that Beckford did not even try for at least the first 10 games of the season. Our 'ace marksman' was firing blanks and not even looking like getting on the end of anything. Same as with Mills, the cry from most on here was 'give him time' and he will rip the Championship apart...many others blamed 'supply' as being the problem for Beckford.. It wasn't him, they suggested, it was Lloyd Dyer or Gally for not giving him anything to feed off..

Well, he's now featured in no less than 25 league games and has scored the princely sum of three league goals. That's three... From our 'most natural finisher'...

Yes, I concede, he was fantastic against Forest, but that was against a very very poor Forest side on the night. Any striker can have one of these games. Hell, even Zigic scored four the other week back...

HOWEVER... Becks is not seen as being the same as Mills... He's being given more time to 'get it right'..

Why? I can only guess its because he is trying harder... He isn't scoring any more goals, so his work rate must be the thing that's endearing him to the fans?

I genuinely wonder what the opinions on here will be if Pearson begins to get fed up of Beckfords inability to hit the net and drops him too? If he does, let's be right, it's pretty likely that Beckford too would have a strop...

I would guess as fickle as many on the opinions on Mills have been.

Anyway, in summary, Mills has always been nothing other than very average since he signed for City..

So IMO has been Beckford...

I guess time will tell..

And I STILL hope I'm wrong..

[Fox92]

Mills will come good again, im sure of that

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