Mark_w Posted 17 June 2012 Posted 17 June 2012 Absolutely shocking decision, mark my words he will be a hit at bolton and everyone on here will suddenly do a u turn and say how great he was and we shouldnt have sold him Whether he does well at Bolton or not, he isn't going to do well at Leicester under Nigel. And frankly I think most people would rather support the manager who gave us the League One Title and almost got us promoted than return to switching managers every five minutes just because he doesn't get on with a CB who realistically came here for the money. Whether Mills does well for whoever he joins or not we need to just forget about him and back the players we've still got at the club. Matt Mills is nothing special, he might do well in the Championship, he might go on and become a decent Premier League player, but losing him certainly isn't going to be the end of the world, same goes for DJ Campbell, he may have done well elsewhere but it's very unlikely he would have done so here.
Deucalion Posted 17 June 2012 Posted 17 June 2012 I had high hopes for Mills and I think things could have been different for him here. But...what has happened has happened and we have to judge him on the job he did here, not the job he does next. Here is clearly is not value for money and we should get what we can for a fee and re-allocate his wages more effectively. There are definitely 'what might have beens' but the only certainty is what has been.
inckley fox Posted 17 June 2012 Posted 17 June 2012 Absolutely shocking decision, mark my words he will be a hit at bolton and everyone on here will suddenly do a u turn and say how great he was and we shouldnt have sold him I strongly doubt that. Yes, he may well be a hit at Bolton but I don't foresee any of us doing a u-turn. When players leave under a cloud they tend to stay under a cloud (Mattock, Kermorgant, Kitson, Brian Little, Mark McGhee etc.). I know people who still prefer to remember Sinclair for two own goals and a brawl with the manager, or Dickov for his unspectacular second stint, Keller for a shaky performance in the League Cup Final in 1999. This is a link to an online spoof mag I quite like... scroll forward to page 6 (something like 'Remembering George Bilston') and that sort of sums up how Leicester fans - and football fans in general - tend to treat our erstwhile heroes when they put a foot wrong. Made me laugh, anyway. http://www.lockleydyke.com/badger.html So no, I don't think we'll be mourning the loss of Matt Mills in a year's time.
brockmyster Posted 17 June 2012 Posted 17 June 2012 I couldve phrased it better, of course with Pearson and him not seeing eye to eye its probably the only solution to the problem, but what i mean is shocking that this has occured. Without knowing the circumstances Mills is the villian, when nobody knows, i mean the problem could be Pearsons doing, and before everyone tries jumping down my throat im just saying no one knows the full picture. Mills wasnt as bad as everyone made out, granted his distribution could be horrendous but he did create a fair few attacks from his balls/hoofs forward. He always seemed to be in the right places with some crutial blocks. He wasnt worth his £5million price tag, im not saying that at all, but he wasnt given a fair chance by the fans who seemingly couldnt wait to slag him off. At the player awards Mills was asked why he wasnt played and he responded to us with 'i dont know he wont talk to me' and ive seen other people on these boards also say he said the same thing, so maybe this whole situation couldve been avoided by the two speaking to each other, but like i said the full picture isnt known so there could be more to this than that, but i am still of the opinion that he will be a good player at Bolton.
MPH Posted 17 June 2012 Posted 17 June 2012 It doesnt matter how good a player is... He could be the best defender we have ever had for all i care.... If he disrupts the harmony in the team, sets a bad example to others in how he is constantly out drinking and allegedly allways getting drunk ( which is different to an odd pint or two here and there) as well as the documented falling out with the manager... then he has to go. No one is bigger than this club and its so much more important to have a team all pulling in the same direction. I can imagine alot of players getting quite annoyed at a players actions ( if all that has been said is to be believed..) when they see the huge amount of money he earnt too then i think he is just not worth the trouble. Simples.
Guest Col city fan Posted 17 June 2012 Posted 17 June 2012 I think this whole 'Mills' thing comes down to one thing.... Do you trust Pearson? If you do, then you must trust that he's right to get rid of Mills. None of us really know all the ins and outs of what went on, so the only thing we can do is to accept the managers decision that it's best if Mills leaves the club. If you trust Pearson to do the right thing. I do personally.
Happy Fox Posted 17 June 2012 Posted 17 June 2012 Toffee Fox @FoxToffee Leicester and Bolton are very close to agreeing a fee for defender Matt Mills, believed to be £2million Not bad I guess.
hornyhollthefox123 Posted 17 June 2012 Posted 17 June 2012 Toffee Fox @FoxToffee Leicester and Bolton are very close to agreeing a fee for defender Matt Mills, believed to be £2million Not bad I guess. Reasonable fee in the circumstances. Let's just get it over with.
Adster Posted 17 June 2012 Posted 17 June 2012 Toffee Fox @FoxToffee Leicester and Bolton are very close to agreeing a fee for defender Matt Mills, believed to be £2million Not bad I guess. I'm not gonna moan because I appreciate all the info you find online as it saves me finding it, but how do you find the time to find EVERY article relating to Leicester City?
Happy Fox Posted 17 June 2012 Posted 17 June 2012 I'm not gonna moan because I appreciate all the info you find online as it saves me finding it, but how do you find the time to find EVERY article relating to Leicester City? My uni exams finished Mid May time, so I am on my Holidays.
Soar Fox Posted 17 June 2012 Posted 17 June 2012 I'm not gonna moan because I appreciate all the info you find online as it saves me finding it, but how do you find the time to find EVERY article relating to Leicester City? Toffee Fox is fourth official who used to be on twitter. Quite reliable. He's only posting Leicester City news from that account now.
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 17 June 2012 Posted 17 June 2012 I think this whole 'Mills' thing comes down to one thing.... Do you trust Pearson? If you do, then you must trust that he's right to get rid of Mills. None of us really know all the ins and outs of what went on, so the only thing we can do is to accept the managers decision that it's best if Mills leaves the club. If you trust Pearson to do the right thing. I do personally. I don't think it does to be honest. It comes down to seeing him play, forming an opinion on what he did in a Leicester shirt and then making a judgement. When we signed him I honestly didn't know a lot about him. Reading captain, fairly solid in a tight-knit team, that was about it. Despite having knocked around the Championship for a good few years I couldn't recall him having stood out like others have for me over the years (Lescott, Jagielka, Duff). If a player is playing in a league below his talents then it is quickly apparent, and this never was with Mills for me. So when we went and supposedly spent £5million on him (yes I know this wasn't the eventual fee but this was what was wheeled out as a marquee signing by the club), I was reserving judgement. Even though I was a little shocked, surprised and, I guess, excited by the amount we were paying, I had no point of reference for whether or not this was a good deal. I hoped it was. I read through pages of excitement on here; the best defender in the Championship, snared away from the clutches of Premiership clubs, a likely captain, the new Steve Walsh. This all sounded promising. With eager anticipation I awaited the start of the season and a curtain-raiser against Real Madrid. One thing of particular importance/interest for me? What's this Matt Mills like? From very early on, dare I say it that Real Madrid game where he played a horrendous backpass, it was clear that Matt Mills was no £5million player. But here's where I think the subsequent difference in opionion on Mills must lie. I believe there are those who saw the price tag, what he did for Reading and alleged Premier League interest, and use all of these things to discount how bad he was for Leicester. To claim that those who don't rate him are being overly harsh and unable to see something in his performances. Then there are those who had the benefit of not knowing too much about him, not instantly equating his fee with his worth and, instead, judging him on what he did on the pitch. For Leicester. Of these people, I am one. To assess Mills as a centre half on the most basic of criteria would indicate that he is, at best, distinctly average. Aerial strength, passing, positioning, speed... he excels in none. Add to this his mentality. Composure, temperament, desire... again he is found wanting. We all know that the best judge of a player are the fans that have watched him up and down a country week in, week out. Reading fans were delirious that they'd got so much for Mills, vindicated in their subsequent storming of the league. "Same old Millsy, ****ing useless" the chant went as he turned in one of the worst displays of the season. A professional footballer put off by some of the tamest sets of fans in the country singing this? Straws were being clutched at ealry doors. If a Bolton fan came to ask me about Mills what I'd tell them would have nothing to do with an argument with Pearson, a personal difference. That is a side issue, born out of the primary one that Mills isn't good enough and Pearson had the sense to take action based upon this. What I would tell them is that they have got a very ordinary defender and a much less ordinary person. I would tell them about the countless times I saw him hoof the ball. I would tell them about seeing Andy Gray dominate him twice in one season. I would tell them about the numerous times I travelled the country to watch a team that he was leading squander opportunities before watching him skulking of the pitch first, without a moment's thought of acknowledging the travelling support as 'captain'. If they wanted more, I'd tell them about rash tackles at Hull and Birmingham which cost us points. I'd tell them how Sven quickly realised he'd been had when he dropped him just a few games in. In summary, I'm delighted to see the back of Matt Mills. If we've re-couped £2million then that is absolutely fantastic business. Good riddance.
Dan Posted 18 June 2012 Posted 18 June 2012 How is it a shocking decision? Whatever happens once he leaves Leicester is irrelevant. He hasn't been as big a hit here as people thought he would have been. That is there for all to see, but it's pretty clear he and Pearson don't see eye to eye and there are only really two ways around that. We certainly don't want to be paying his wages when NP doesn't even want him in his first team squad. It's a sensible, rational decision that will benefit us. We will no longer have an unhappy player, regardless of what went on who had the potential to cause disruption in the dressing room. What else were you expecting? Stick around.
Dan Posted 18 June 2012 Posted 18 June 2012 I don't think it does to be honest. It comes down to seeing him play, forming an opinion on what he did in a Leicester shirt and then making a judgement. When we signed him I honestly didn't know a lot about him. Reading captain, fairly solid in a tight-knit team, that was about it. Despite having knocked around the Championship for a good few years I couldn't recall him having stood out like others have for me over the years (Lescott, Jagielka, Duff). If a player is playing in a league below his talents then it is quickly apparent, and this never was with Mills for me. So when we went and supposedly spent £5million on him (yes I know this wasn't the eventual fee but this was what was wheeled out as a marquee signing by the club), I was reserving judgement. Even though I was a little shocked, surprised and, I guess, excited by the amount we were paying, I had no point of reference for whether or not this was a good deal. I hoped it was. I read through pages of excitement on here; the best defender in the Championship, snared away from the clutches of Premiership clubs, a likely captain, the new Steve Walsh. This all sounded promising. With eager anticipation I awaited the start of the season and a curtain-raiser against Real Madrid. One thing of particular importance/interest for me? What's this Matt Mills like? From very early on, dare I say it that Real Madrid game where he played a horrendous backpass, it was clear that Matt Mills was no £5million player. But here's where I think the subsequent difference in opionion on Mills must lie. I believe there are those who saw the price tag, what he did for Reading and alleged Premier League interest, and use all of these things to discount how bad he was for Leicester. To claim that those who don't rate him are being overly harsh and unable to see something in his performances. Then there are those who had the benefit of not knowing too much about him, not instantly equating his fee with his worth and, instead, judging him on what he did on the pitch. For Leicester. Of these people, I am one. To assess Mills as a centre half on the most basic of criteria would indicate that he is, at best, distinctly average. Aerial strength, passing, positioning, speed... he excels in none. Add to this his mentality. Composure, temperament, desire... again he is found wanting. We all know that the best judge of a player are the fans that have watched him up and down a country week in, week out. Reading fans were delirious that they'd got so much for Mills, vindicated in their subsequent storming of the league. "Same old Millsy, ****ing useless" the chant went as he turned in one of the worst displays of the season. A professional footballer put off by some of the tamest sets of fans in the country singing this? Straws were being clutched at ealry doors. If a Bolton fan came to ask me about Mills what I'd tell them would have nothing to do with an argument with Pearson, a personal difference. That is a side issue, born out of the primary one that Mills isn't good enough and Pearson had the sense to take action based upon this. What I would tell them is that they have got a very ordinary defender and a much less ordinary person. I would tell them about the countless times I saw him hoof the ball. I would tell them about seeing Andy Gray dominate him twice in one season. I would tell them about the numerous times I travelled the country to watch a team that he was leading squander opportunities before watching him skulking of the pitch first, without a moment's thought of acknowledging the travelling support as 'captain'. If they wanted more, I'd tell them about rash tackles at Hull and Birmingham which cost us points. I'd tell them how Sven quickly realised he'd been had when he dropped him just a few games in. In summary, I'm delighted to see the back of Matt Mills. If we've re-couped £2million then that is absolutely fantastic business. Good riddance. Top class, there is actually not a single word in the entire post (and it's a fvcking long one) that I don't agree with. Superb.
Mack Posted 18 June 2012 Posted 18 June 2012 Strip the facts down. He didn't play well at all for us last season, average at times at best and couldn't pass water. Since he lost his place he's hardly covered himself in glory with his behaviour whilst picking up massive wages. We can buy a lot better with the £2 million fee. Add this lot up and it's for the best of the club. Dont let the door hit you on the arse on the way out......
Tielemans63 Posted 18 June 2012 Posted 18 June 2012 If it is £2 million then that's decent business IMHO.
Mark_w Posted 18 June 2012 Posted 18 June 2012 Hate ****** who jump on the Mills is sh1t bandwagon If he does sign for them, we have to be full of praise for him, he was the best passer for a defender i've ever seen etc etc.. The look on their faces when he plays Like you, you mean?
flowwolf Posted 18 June 2012 Posted 18 June 2012 You've been caught with your pants down Dann ! :D :D :D :D , cant wait till Bolton play down here we have already got the song to sing to him from Reading. Now it's time for Bolton to have there pants pulled down.
Guest Col city fan Posted 18 June 2012 Posted 18 June 2012 I don't think it does to be honest. It comes down to seeing him play, forming an opinion on what he did in a Leicester shirt and then making a judgement. When we signed him I honestly didn't know a lot about him. Reading captain, fairly solid in a tight-knit team, that was about it. Despite having knocked around the Championship for a good few years I couldn't recall him having stood out like others have for me over the years (Lescott, Jagielka, Duff). If a player is playing in a league below his talents then it is quickly apparent, and this never was with Mills for me. So when we went and supposedly spent £5million on him (yes I know this wasn't the eventual fee but this was what was wheeled out as a marquee signing by the club), I was reserving judgement. Even though I was a little shocked, surprised and, I guess, excited by the amount we were paying, I had no point of reference for whether or not this was a good deal. I hoped it was. I read through pages of excitement on here; the best defender in the Championship, snared away from the clutches of Premiership clubs, a likely captain, the new Steve Walsh. This all sounded promising. With eager anticipation I awaited the start of the season and a curtain-raiser against Real Madrid. One thing of particular importance/interest for me? What's this Matt Mills like? From very early on, dare I say it that Real Madrid game where he played a horrendous backpass, it was clear that Matt Mills was no £5million player. But here's where I think the subsequent difference in opionion on Mills must lie. I believe there are those who saw the price tag, what he did for Reading and alleged Premier League interest, and use all of these things to discount how bad he was for Leicester. To claim that those who don't rate him are being overly harsh and unable to see something in his performances. Then there are those who had the benefit of not knowing too much about him, not instantly equating his fee with his worth and, instead, judging him on what he did on the pitch. For Leicester. Of these people, I am one. To assess Mills as a centre half on the most basic of criteria would indicate that he is, at best, distinctly average. Aerial strength, passing, positioning, speed... he excels in none. Add to this his mentality. Composure, temperament, desire... again he is found wanting. We all know that the best judge of a player are the fans that have watched him up and down a country week in, week out. Reading fans were delirious that they'd got so much for Mills, vindicated in their subsequent storming of the league. "Same old Millsy, ****ing useless" the chant went as he turned in one of the worst displays of the season. A professional footballer put off by some of the tamest sets of fans in the country singing this? Straws were being clutched at ealry doors. If a Bolton fan came to ask me about Mills what I'd tell them would have nothing to do with an argument with Pearson, a personal difference. That is a side issue, born out of the primary one that Mills isn't good enough and Pearson had the sense to take action based upon this. What I would tell them is that they have got a very ordinary defender and a much less ordinary person. I would tell them about the countless times I saw him hoof the ball. I would tell them about seeing Andy Gray dominate him twice in one season. I would tell them about the numerous times I travelled the country to watch a team that he was leading squander opportunities before watching him skulking of the pitch first, without a moment's thought of acknowledging the travelling support as 'captain'. If they wanted more, I'd tell them about rash tackles at Hull and Birmingham which cost us points. I'd tell them how Sven quickly realised he'd been had when he dropped him just a few games in. In summary, I'm delighted to see the back of Matt Mills. If we've re-couped £2million then that is absolutely fantastic business. Good riddance. Good post, though I'm not sure you fully got my point. I'm no defender of Mills based upon how I too saw him play for us. However, did we not have our longest run of clean sheets when he was in the side? Was he not Readings Captain also and is he not now being courted by one of the favourites for promotion from the Championship? There are still many, both internally and externally that rate Mills. Some on this forum would wish him back in a Leicester City side. Other clubs, bigger than ours, have allegedly taken an interest. What I said was we need to place our trust in Pearson that selling Mills is the right thing to do. You might think it is, I might, but others disagree.
flowwolf Posted 18 June 2012 Posted 18 June 2012 I think Col the question is did he or could he play any better for us ? I personally don't think so. So there is no use him being with us. Time will tell if he comes good somewhere else but again I doubt it. It was not his fault that he was over hyped and over priced , but he was and still is a average championship player. I have not seen one game where he either justified the hype or wearing the captains armband. If we can get 2 million for him it's bloody good business and bloody good riddance.
MPH Posted 18 June 2012 Posted 18 June 2012 Mail says Norwich after him now!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hopefully there will be a bidding war
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