2014 World cup qualifiers

[foxfanazer]

Poor game, thought jagielka looked our of his depth and cleverly needs to work on his finishing because he gets himself into some great positions. Find Milner frustrating as well, not good enough imo

[The Doctor]

Do you not think the extent of your anti-Enligishness is a touch sad and pathetic - and maybe (just maybe), a little obsessive?

What - celebrating goals against England while down the pub with a mate? I don't think so. It's hardly that much of an extent - I don't really care when England win in Rugby since there's a decent Tigers representation, or cricket.

Besides - it was an absolute corker and my mate had been absolutely howling at Macedonia taking the lead, consider it as much a "pipe down mate" as a "fuck yes, g'won Ukraine".

[MC Prussian]

On a sidenote: After two games, we're still undefeated, have yet to drop points and haven't allowed a single goal.

Team chemistry seems to have improved, the Swiss squad has appeared as a solid unit so far.

But to be fair, we've played Slovenia and Albania.

Next up: Norway. Which will be a different chapter altogether.

[James.]

Do people still actually do that? Jeez I could understand if we were half decent but we're shit now anyway.

I don't even think you would get twatted in a rough pub now it's that pathetic.

So true.

[Finnegan]

I usually have a bit of a chuckle and some banter with my mates if you go a goal down to someone embarrassing but that's about as far as I go.

I'd probably celebrate a winning goal against you in something like a major competition final but that'd be relief more than anything.

I'm not sure I can handle the English tabloid media if you ever win a world cup in my lifetime. But then I think there are English people who almost feel the same to be honest!!

[Guest MattP]

You're not wrong there about the tabloid media.

[Jordan]

On a sidenote: After two games, we're still undefeated, have yet to drop points and haven't allowed a single goal.

Team chemistry seems to have improved, the Swiss squad has appeared as a solid unit so far.

But to be fair, we've played Slovenia and Albania.

Next up: Norway. Which will be a different chapter altogether.

I feel bad for Albania when they play Switzerland, because the best Albanian players on the field are playing against them.

[Father Ted]

FINNEGANNNNNNNNNNNNNNN :crylaugh: :crylaugh: :crylaugh: :crylaugh: :crylaugh:

[Father Ted]

We've shipped six to a developing nation and you're moaning about being poor at the back?

Have a word mate!

Developing nation lol

6-1!

[Finnegan]

this would probably be more enjoyable for you if years and years of John Toshack hadn't killed any optimism I had for Welsh football.

I'm not at all bothered.

You're taunting the wrong person, kiddo. Try signing up to a Bluebirds site and having a go.

[Finnegan]

As an aside, really rate that Tadic, is he still dossing about in the Dutch league with some midtable side? He looks tidy.

Think Djuricic (sp?) looks too lightweight for a forward though. Midfielder by trade isn't he? Is he all you have or are there injury problems up front?

[MC Prussian]

I feel bad for Albania when they play Switzerland, because the best Albanian players on the field are playing against them.

Kosovarian, not Albanian.

[Father Ted]

As an aside, really rate that Tadic, is he still dossing about in the Dutch league with some midtable side? He looks tidy.

Think Djuricic (sp?) looks too lightweight for a forward though. Midfielder by trade isn't he? Is he all you have or are there injury problems up front?

Yeah, Djuricic is an (attacking) midfielder by trade. We genuinely have little options up front. We spent our whole last qualifying campaign with Zigic/Pantelic up front who are utter dog shite. Especially when you consider we've had the likes of Mijatovic, Milosevic and Kezman in recent years. We have Markovic coming through (plays for Partizan) but he's only 18/19 so lacks in experience. Sulejmani looked as if he could be an option but has been used deeper and that only leaves Dejan Lekic who hasn't been favoured too greatly. We have some top defenders (Ivanovic, Kolarov, Nastasic (now at Man City), Bisevac (Lyon), Basta (Udinese), Subotic (Dortmund) and Vidic (now retired)) and midfielders. Just have crap strikers and goalkeepers

Tadic moved to FC Twente in the summer so could push on now.

[Jordan]

Kosovarian, not Albanian.

They're of Albanian ethnicity, of course. At least for the Albanians that follow football here (whether they are Albanian, Kosovar or Montenegrin), Shaqiri and Behrami et al. are stars.

[kingfox]

England were yet again boring last night, we didn't look properly lively until the final 20 minutes, when the trio of Bertrand, Sturridge and Welbeck came on, positive to that is that they are the future of England International Football, but I was surprised to see Livermore, Lallana and Sterling not even getting a chance, what was the point of picking them if Hodgson didn't intend to bring at least 1 or 2 of them on, just absolutely pointless in my opinion.

Hodgson is bias aswell, he picks too many Liverpool players just to make their fans happy because he didn't do well with them. He starts Johnson at right-back, when Johnson hasn't looked good enough in an England shirt for many of years now, Kyle Walker is the future and deserves to play while Micah Richards must be one of the most unluckiest players ever, yes he is injured currently, but he deserves to be chosen in every England squad when fit. World Cup is two years away, Gerrard will be 34 with Lampard being 36, would you really start them ahead of Cleverley and Wilshere in two years, because I certainly wouldn't. James Milner shouldn't be starting either, god knows what Hodgson sees in him, at times I think Hodgson must be having an affair with the lad, Milner has been the weakest player in the England team for the past year, there are far more players who deserve the chance. Oxlade-Chamberlain is also the future of English football, but last night he was very poor and seemed out of his depth.

In some positions our future looks pretty weak, the likes of Lescott, Jagielka and Terry will be around 34. I can only record Gary Cahill who maybe our next accomplished defender and maybe Phil Jones. We also can't rely on Wayne Rooney, so many strikers need to make a step up and with other countries bringing up far better strikers than us I would be worried.

Hodgson has done a very good job in some parts, but in some parts he has made me angry, picking the wrong players and being slightly bias by picking Liverpool players, it was the same at the World Cup when he called upon Downing, Carroll and Henderson three players who did fook all in the Premier League.

Countries looked far better equipped than us for the future, Hodgson needs to start giving the young players a chance to see how capable they really are.

Plus on the Wales front, they should have never appointed Chris Coleman, he is a seriously poor manager with a bad record.

[Corky]

Hodgson is bias aswell, he picks too many Liverpool players just to make their fans happy because he didn't do well with them.

I still don't get this.

The majority of Liverpool fans don't care about the England team. In fact, they don't like it. I read a number of their supporters were not happy that Sterling had been called up so soon. If anything, the Liverpool fans would rather their players weren't called up in case of injuries occurring.

[kingfox]

I still don't get this.

The majority of Liverpool fans don't care about the England team. In fact, they don't like it. I read a number of their supporters were not happy that Sterling had been called up so soon. If anything, the Liverpool fans would rather their players weren't called up in case of injuries occurring.

I maybe wrong, but you can easily tell what he is doing when it comes to picking Liverpool players.

Liverpool had a poor season in 2011/2012, most of the players picked from Liverpool didn't deserve to go to Euro 2012, only Gerrard deserved to be chosen because he one of the main parts to the England side. Yet again as proved this week, by picking Sterling that Hodgson is bias when it comes to Liverpool, Sterling has played two league games and suddenly Hodgson decides the kid is good enough for an England call-up. I can name two players who have been overshadowed and deserve a call up, and that is Nathan Dyer and Victor Moses, I cannot believe Hodgson hasn't given this duo a chance yet.

Johnson - Not good enough, Walker and Richards are better

Kelly - Not good enough yet

Henderson - Picking him for Euro 2012 was a joke

Carroll - Did absolutely nothing for Liverpool last season

Downing - Absolute joke of a pick at Euro 2012

Sterling - Only played two sodding League games

Many players deserved to be chosen over these six, in recent England squads.

[EnderbyFox]

Too late for Moses i'm afraid, he's already played a few times for Nigeria

[Corky]

I maybe wrong, but you can easily tell what he is doing when it comes to picking Liverpool players.

Liverpool had a poor season in 2011/2012, most of the players picked from Liverpool didn't deserve to go to Euro 2012, only Gerrard deserved to be chosen because he one of the main parts to the England side. Yet again as proved this week, by picking Sterling that Hodgson is bias when it comes to Liverpool, Sterling has played two league games and suddenly Hodgson decides the kid is good enough for an England call-up. I can name two players who have been overshadowed and deserve a call up, and that is Nathan Dyer and Victor Moses, I cannot believe Hodgson hasn't given this duo a chance yet.

Johnson - Not good enough, Walker and Richards are better

Kelly - Not good enough yet

Henderson - Picking him for Euro 2012 was a joke

Carroll - Did absolutely nothing for Liverpool last season

Downing - Absolute joke of a pick at Euro 2012

Sterling - Only played two sodding League games

Many players deserved to be chosen over these six, in recent England squads.

Richards was a surprise, but Walker was injured and Johnson had worked with Hodgson before. Same with Kelly. Carroll was one of few available strikers, Downing and Henderson I agree were odd picks, although Downing had played for England several times before.

Sterling was possibly more to do with the fact he can still play for Jamaica, so get him an early cap and make sure he's an England player for good.

I really don't think he's trying to change Liverpool fans opinions of him. It won't ever happen.

[Webbo]

I really don't understand how people can criticize Johnson. One of the outstanding players of the last couple of years.

[kingfox]

Too late for Moses i'm afraid, he's already played a few times for Nigeria

Real shame that didn't know.

Richards was a surprise, but Walker was injured and Johnson had worked with Hodgson before. Same with Kelly. Carroll was one of few available strikers, Downing and Henderson I agree were odd picks, although Downing had played for England several times before.

Sterling was possibly more to do with the fact he can still play for Jamaica, so get him an early cap and make sure he's an England player for good.

I really don't think he's trying to change Liverpool fans opinions of him. It won't ever happen.

They were all odd picks regardless whether Hodgson worked with them or not, none of them deserved to be called up because of their form. Richards deserved to be angry when he didn't get called up, Johnson had a poor season for Liverpool and Richards was in far better form. Downing and Henderson were just laughable selections, while Carroll yes was one of a few available strikers but his form was poor. Sterling only played two league games, feel really sorry for Nathan Dyer and Scott Sinclair aswell, both players have deserved a chance yet get overlooked, for a 17 year old who happens to play for Liverpool.

[Father Ted]

They're of Albanian ethnicity, of course. At least for the Albanians that follow football here (whether they are Albanian, Kosovar or Montenegrin), Shaqiri and Behrami et al. are stars.

No such things as Montenegrin Albanians.....

[Jordan]

No such things as Montenegrin Albanians.....

Whatever you say, buddy.

[Finnegan]

No such things as Montenegrin Albanians.....

... of course there are. As well as Serbian Albanians, Italian Albanians, Swedish Albanians.

Jordan just means people of Albanian decent who are from Montenegro. Like British Pakistanis or Italian Americans.

[Father Ted]

... of course there are. As well as Serbian Albanians, Italian Albanians, Swedish Albanians.

Jordan just means people of Albanian decent who are from Montenegro. Like British Pakistanis or Italian Americans.

Whatever you say...