Standers in N block ejected, Banned and cancelled season tickets

[Freeman's Wharfer]

I don't understand why people who pay what £30 a ticket to stand, however i think banning a supporter who is standing is a bit far fetched, maybe a polite warning to sit down or you will be ejected after three warnings then they should be ejected but taking a season ticket off somebody for just standing is bloody ridiculous. If you like standing at a football match then i'm afraid leicester city isn't the place for you, try non league. 

 

This is often one of the most moronic things that gets said when there's a debate about standing. And it pisses me off when you get people saying: "sit down, I've paid thirty quid for this seat". You're not paying for your seat mate! You're not paying £30 because the upkeep of that little plastic thing that folds up and down is to the value of £30! You're paying to see the event. To watch the football. To observe the spectacle, the game. Regardless of whether you do that sitting or standing, that costs £30.

 

Should be a campaign to make the Kop standing...

 

To make this statement worthwile you'd need to change it to one of the two following options:

 

1) Should be a campaign to make K/L officially standing

 

2) Should be a campaign to call K/L the Kop

 

'The Kop' is dead. Look at what's traditionally meant to happen in a Kop/who's traditionally meant to go in a Kop and you'll find that neither apply to the South Stand at the KP.

 

L1 is not a standing area. It's an all seater stadia

 

Officially not no. But it's an area. In which there is large-scale and wide-spread standing. So I think we're just about safe to call it a stading area.

[theoldbluefox]

fcuk we are are in N BLOCK,ROW KK,always stand ,row in frint sits so where is the problem, that twat who trys it on every week is a twat,i have never been told to sit have you , my answer is STAND UP IF YOU LOVE LEICESTER

[Corky]

This too. It's almost like they're pretending it doesn't exist. I used to go with my Mum and Dad at FS and the people behind us always used to swear, one of them said "oh no that kids here today, means we can't swear", my Mum overheard and actually encouraged them to as "he finds it funny"

 

What, you didn't turn into a criminal or a recluse because you heard swearing at football?

 

Blimey Dan, you were fortunate.

 

Where did you sit at FS by the way?

[C-man]

The club made a rod for its own back by making L1 STH-only. Not saying all those in N are non-STHs (clearly not the case if STs are being revoked), but in doing so the club have almost encouraged fans to take the option of standing next to the away end with mates who may come only a handful of times a season.

 

Personally don't see the attraction of spending 90 minutes goading 300 away fans when you could just be getting behind the team fully, so if I was feeling a bit frustrated by the club's actions, I'd move to the back of SK1 where there are actually a lot more fans standing and (usually) not interfered with.

[Dan]

What, you didn't turn into a criminal or a recluse because you heard swearing at football?

 

Blimey Dan, you were fortunate.

 

Where did you sit at FS by the way?

 

It's probably for the best that I don't go into the details of the effects it's had on me but they weren't good, anyway to move on from that horrific subject...

 

Carling Stand upper.

[svensson]

It's probably for the best that I don't go into the details of the effects it's had on me but they weren't good, anyway to move on from that horrific subject...

Carling Stand upper.

Hang on a bit, the carling stand upper??? Hardly a hotbed of hooligan activity!!

[LCFC FOX]

fcuk we are are in N BLOCK,ROW KK,always stand ,row in frint sits so where is the problem, that twat who trys it on every week is a twat,i have never been told to sit have you , my answer is STAND UP IF YOU LOVE LEICESTER

You can try and still do this, but don't go downstairs alone at any point during the game. Stewards will pounce 

[Corky]

It's probably for the best that I don't go into the details of the effects it's had on me but they weren't good, anyway to move on from that horrific subject...

 

Carling Stand upper.

 

Really? I didn't think they woke up until that Man United relegation match. Swearing must've been an offence!

[Ash79]

As a slight aside I mentioned this conversation to a friend who's a officer in the TSU and he believed that the Chief Constable will not endorse a move to shift the away fans elsewhere nor swap the family stand and Kop. Someone will probably correct me but I don't think the Football League or it may even be LCC will allow us to stage games without Policing support.

I think the point I'm trying to make is I'm not entirely sure the blame can be placed solely at clubs doorstep.

[ADK]

If the club really wanted to do it, it would.

[Kitchandro]

This is often one of the most moronic things that gets said when there's a debate about standing. And it pisses me off when you get people saying: "sit down, I've paid thirty quid for this seat". You're not paying for your seat mate! You're not paying £30 because the upkeep of that little plastic thing that folds up and down is to the value of £30! You're paying to see the event. To watch the football. To observe the spectacle, the game. Regardless of whether you do that sitting or standing, that costs £30.

 

 

To make this statement worthwile you'd need to change it to one of the two following options:

 

1) Should be a campaign to make K/L officially standing

 

2) Should be a campaign to call K/L the Kop

 

'The Kop' is dead. Look at what's traditionally meant to happen in a Kop/who's traditionally meant to go in a Kop and you'll find that neither apply to the South Stand at the KP.

 

 

Officially not no. But it's an area. In which there is large-scale and wide-spread standing. So I think we're just about safe to call it a stading area.

 

The Kop wouldn't be dead if it attracted all the standers. I'm not really comfortable with a side stand being Kop. I know Kops aren't always behind the goal but they should be.

 

We need a proper Kop end IMO, in the spirit of Filbo. It won't happen until we get standing areas back, but if we did and the whole end was standing it would be great. That's the kind of thing we should be aiming for.

[Weller in Tights]

Just read all the posts on this thread.

Unreal, I really get the impression some of the posters either:

a). don't actually go to games

b). are undercover agents for the club

c). are F****t fans just causing trouble

Or ( and this is most likely)

d). they are just ignorant Daily Mail readers.

Dangerous Tiger is seriously in need of help from the Mental Health services.

Where do I position myself with regards this discussion???

Stand up if you love Leicester.

53 years of age, been standing at City games since I was 8. The gentrification of the game has led to the killing of atmosphere in the English game. Part of the gentrification process has been the introduction of all seater stadiums.

Don't come on here and argue its the 'post Hillsborough' safety argument that has led to seating. Safe standing is a reality, English clubs could've gone down that route. But No, they chose to develop expensive all seater stadiums and then encourage the Daily Mail reading aspiring middle classes to come and spend their money down at the 'footie'.

I've seen England away, when English fans have drowned out the opposition support, just last week I saw 18,000 Polish fans drown out the English fans SITTING DOWN at Wembley.

This really is an atmosphere issue, the more we have standing the better the atmosphere.

Oh and Dangerous Tiger, F*** OFF and watch the egg chasers.

[Dan]

Hang on a bit, the carling stand upper??? Hardly a hotbed of hooligan activity!!

 

Where did I say it was?

Really? I didn't think they woke up until that Man United relegation match. Swearing must've been an offence!

 

I only went a number of times. First time I ever went was upper tier of the Kop.

[goose2010]

I sit in the KOP SK3 about half way up. Now people saying that all of the KOP should be standing, its never going to happen. I would happily stand as i do at the away games that I go to. But behind me at home are about 4-5 of our 'older fans' who have been sitting in there seats since the stadium was built so what kind of a person would I be to stand in front of them and block their view? people would argue the case why dont you swap seats with them? I'm sorry but no whys that fair on them. I join in with the singing, clapping and shouting abuse at the referee when its required, from a seated position i honestly cant see why people feel they need to stand to sing and get an atmosphere? Now I would like to point you to this picture. 

 

 

kansas city chiefs fans last weekend broke the world record for the amount of noise created in a stadium 139 decibels, which is about the same as a jet engine at 100ft. Ok we don't get crowds like this volume but my argument is look their all seating down, i've never understood why people feel they need to stand to 'create atmosphere' Leicester are never going to move the KOP, never going to allow you to stand in a family designated area and never going to allow safe standing (unless it becomes the norm) 

[lestajigs]

K block from row dd= standing every game

J3 from row hh= standing every game

Big games like forest, there will be even more standing

[5waller5]

I would warmly welcome standing areas ... and especially a standing KOP behind the goal .... That'd be fantastic for all the lads that want to go with their mates and be old school.

 

Now I'm a dad I would also welcome is for the family section to ban swearing .... The foul mouthed idiots in that stand are worse than anywhere else int he ground - so anyone that wants to enjoy the game with their kids is better off doing so almost anywhere else in the ground!!!!

 

That's why everywhere else suffers from the "family" atmosphere ..... because there simply isn't one in the "family" stand!!!

[LCFC FOX]

K block from row dd= standing every game

J3 from row hh= standing every game

Big games like forest, there will be even more standing

what about L block, I will be going down tomorrow but I'm guessing a lot of tickets in K block would have already been for general sale for this Saturday mind

[lcfc"weasel"]

If you've been ejected for standing, just ask them to define "persistent standing", they won't have a clue and then you'll get sent further up the chain of command, where they still don't have a clue, once you've reached the top, this'll happen: You'll get a meeting with Viki, can't remember her surname, try to drag the meeting out for as long as possible and finally leave swearing you'll do whatever she says if she'd let you give her a go.

[LCFC FOX]

If you've been ejected for standing, just ask them to define "persistent standing", they won't have a clue and then you'll get sent further up the chain of command, where they still don't have a clue, once you've reached the top, this'll happen: You'll get a meeting with Viki, can't remember her surname, try to drag the meeting out for as long as possible and finally leave swearing you'll do whatever she says if she'd let you give her a go.

is this what you did when you chucked sandwiches onto the pitch?

[Unabomber]

I sit in the KOP SK3 about half way up. Now people saying that all of the KOP should be standing, its never going to happen. I would happily stand as i do at the away games that I go to. But behind me at home are about 4-5 of our 'older fans' who have been sitting in there seats since the stadium was built so what kind of a person would I be to stand in front of them and block their view? people would argue the case why dont you swap seats with them? I'm sorry but no whys that fair on them. I join in with the singing, clapping and shouting abuse at the referee when its required, from a seated position i honestly cant see why people feel they need to stand to sing and get an atmosphere? Now I would like to point you to this picture. 

 

 

I agree with this. The thing is though if people want to stand then they can, they just need to make sure they buy the right seat. I have had my seat for about 5 seasons now and have always stood (I am on the first row of standing in sk3) the seats next to me aren't season tickets so if my friends want to come and stand then they can buy the exact seats. 

If the people behind me wanted to sit down then I would just swap my ticket for a spot where I knew the people behind stood.

[GingerrrFox]

I would warmly welcome standing areas ... and especially a standing KOP behind the goal .... That'd be fantastic for all the lads that want to go with their mates and be old school.

Now I'm a dad I would also welcome is for the family section to ban swearing .... The foul mouthed idiots in that stand are worse than anywhere else int he ground - so anyone that wants to enjoy the game with their kids is better off doing so almost anywhere else in the ground!!!!

That's why everywhere else suffers from the "family" atmosphere ..... because there simply isn't one in the "family" stand!!!

This is my point exactly. Fair enough some of you on here think it's acceptable to mouth off in front of kids but the majority of people do not. People saying "there is swearing in other parts of the ground, kids can hear them" clearly haven't been around children. They are really only impressionable if they are directly exposed to something, and someone shouting "referee you ****ing ****, your an absolute joke you ****" a row away from them, is completely different to someone 2 blocks away doing it.

Yes the club shouldn't have put the family stand where it is but it isn't going to change and 5waller5 is bang on about leaving the family stand for families.

[C-man]

I sit in the KOP SK3 about half way up. Now people saying that all of the KOP should be standing, its never going to happen. I would happily stand as i do at the away games that I go to. But behind me at home are about 4-5 of our 'older fans' who have been sitting in there seats since the stadium was built so what kind of a person would I be to stand in front of them and block their view? people would argue the case why dont you swap seats with them? I'm sorry but no whys that fair on them. I join in with the singing, clapping and shouting abuse at the referee when its required, from a seated position i honestly cant see why people feel they need to stand to sing and get an atmosphere? Now I would like to point you to this picture. 

 

 

kansas city chiefs fans last weekend broke the world record for the amount of noise created in a stadium 139 decibels, which is about the same as a jet engine at 100ft. Ok we don't get crowds like this volume but my argument is look their all seating down, i've never understood why people feel they need to stand to 'create atmosphere' Leicester are never going to move the KOP, never going to allow you to stand in a family designated area and never going to allow safe standing (unless it becomes the norm) 

 

And if you have seen the footage you will notice that every single person in the stadium is stood up when the record was broken.

 

It's not a matter of opinion as regards people being louder when stood up, it's an absolute fact.

[MattyFromLE]

Thing is. There has to be a breaking point, either people will stop standing, or the club will try a standing section. I think it any deal was struck with the club, we would have to compromise on a few things. Getting yourself kicked out / giving it the big'un ( I didn't see the incident in N block so I am not directly saying that they were in the wrong... ) is always going to look worse on the individual than the club. 

 

How we get the club on board I have no idea. There would have to be a positive gain for them to do it - otherwise, they'll just say no. 

 

I don't agree with people getting kicked out, but we know what the stewards are like. They get 2/3 times a month to go on a 2/3 hour long power trip, there must be a way round it. 

[Guest Bilo]

And if you have seen the footage you will notice that every single person in the stadium is stood up when the record was broken.

 

It's not a matter of opinion as regards people being louder when stood up, it's an absolute fact.

 

Correct.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3_f663oVXw

[Kitchandro]

I sit in the KOP SK3 about half way up. Now people saying that all of the KOP should be standing, its never going to happen. I would happily stand as i do at the away games that I go to. But behind me at home are about 4-5 of our 'older fans' who have been sitting in there seats since the stadium was built so what kind of a person would I be to stand in front of them and block their view? people would argue the case why dont you swap seats with them? I'm sorry but no whys that fair on them. I join in with the singing, clapping and shouting abuse at the referee when its required, from a seated position i honestly cant see why people feel they need to stand to sing and get an atmosphere? Now I would like to point you to this picture. 

 

 

kansas city chiefs fans last weekend broke the world record for the amount of noise created in a stadium 139 decibels, which is about the same as a jet engine at 100ft. Ok we don't get crowds like this volume but my argument is look their all seating down, i've never understood why people feel they need to stand to 'create atmosphere' Leicester are never going to move the KOP, never going to allow you to stand in a family designated area and never going to allow safe standing (unless it becomes the norm) 

 

If the stand remains all seater then no, of course it won't ever be all standing. I'm talking about if it's all converted to safe standing.

 

You might say, 'well we'll never get that many people wanting to stand' - but that's only true in the short term. Think back to the 50s and 60s sort of era when there were almost no seats at all, and people of all ages would stand - and that was at a time when even small clubs got huge attendances by today's standards.

 

When the standing areas at Filbo were just the bottom tiers of the Kop and Main Stand they were very popular and often full, whereas seated areas had empty parts.

 

What we need to do is change the mentality of fans. Almost everyone sits at home nowadays because they are forced to. However, we've taken huge followings away from home where everyone (or almost everyone) has stood in recent years - 8,000 to Forest, 6,500 to Cov, 6,000 to Chelsea etc.

 

If people were given the option to stand I'd suggest it would become very popular. Not necessarily straight away, but within a few years you'd see thousands wanting to do it, just like in Germany.

 

Young fans will enjoy the football more and the new generation will grow up with a different experience to what I had. They won't be indoctrinated to sit down.