LCFC FOX Posted 21 October 2013 Author Posted 21 October 2013 Rico the guy who got chucked out stands near me as well, all I can say is don't go down during the game on your own.
Bayfox Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 You're clearly not a parent. When you take your 7 year old son to a game you don't want a big fat goon to stand 3 seats away from you shouting "you fvcking cvnt, 4rsehole cheating b4stard" ..... If that was in the KOP then yes, I'd just shrug and remember the typical mentality of some football fans ..... In the family stand I want to be able to share an experience of supporting the club that I've spent many hours at as a man and a boy with my great little boy. Without him looking at me, half scared, half in amazement and asking what the angry man is shouting and why. The family stand should have a family atmosphere (I'm not bothered if single blokes go in there - just as long as anyone behaving unsuitably is thrown out) and let the swearing etc happen in other parts of the ground. Everyone's happy. My experience of the family stand is that it's the worst stand in the ground for swearing - probably because the price of the tickets attracts the lowest common denominator. The problem is, that the big fat goon you refer to may just be a parent too and have different ideas of what standards he should be setting.
Harry - LCFC Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 Perhaps we could shift the family stand over a bit? Cut off the bit next to the away fans and use A instead. That keeps the family stand in roughly the same place (which the club see intend on doing) and avoids contact with the away fans. I don't even know why I'm making this suggestion tbh, it's so obvious a change needs to happen but it won't be forthcoming. It does feel like the club are deliberately mismanaging these issues at times.
rico Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 Rico the guy who got chucked out stands near me as well, all I can say is don't go down during the game on your own. always piss before kick off
Dan Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 Has anyone ever even sat in N block? Where do you get the idea we are swearing every sentence? We do respect there are some children further down and we hardly ever swear, we just like to stand and sing Leicester songs and join in with L Fair point actually. The majority of posts on this thread have been based on an assumption and nothing more. It really is pathetic how reactive it all is in this country, absolutely pathetic. Discouraging atmosphere because of potential trouble ffs, ban the troublemakers and move on.
JmorsonLCFC Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 Yeah they do. The only difference is the people in L1 aren't doing it in the designated family stand and thus doing it in front of young children. It's not big and it's not clever mouthing off near 5 year olds. You don't look big and you don't look hard. Isn't N1 season ticket only and doesnt have to be bought with a child ticket.....exactly the same as L1? Weather you're mouthing off infront of kids or not it doesn't make it right does it.
SemperEadem Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 Reading all this gets me really down and alienated from the club.
5waller5 Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 The problem is, that the big fat goon you refer to may just be a parent too and have different ideas of what standards he should be setting. Unfortunately this is a very very good point!!!!!
Kitchandro Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 The club are trying to stop "typical football behaviour" from the family stand because that is what they want it to be. Why do you think you have to buy a child's ticket with an adult ticket? They are actively trying to make that stand for just families so you saying forget about the family stand being just a name is wrong. I know from people within the club that they have had complaints and are trying to change things. As Bert has said previously they want to give an image of "a family friendly club", families spend all the money and they want them to get the experience the majority of families want, which they've found through surveys is not "typical football behaviour. Erm, you don't? Unless you mean kids can't go by themselves, which is the case for the rest of the ground. You're telling me what the club want - I'm telling you I'm aware of that - but 1) I don't agree with it and 2) the way they are going about it is brainless and at times, unacceptable.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 All I'm hoping for now is a right royal rumble in the mixed zone on Saturday, then the club will definitely have to start looking at their priorities.
Captain... Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 My thoughts. 1. Getting thrown out for standing when the terms and conditions of the ticket you have bought and therefore agreed to abide by the terms conditions states that standing will result in being ejected. Well, you know the risk, everyone standing knows it's proper naughty, and those in the family stand are a lot more at risk. 2. Why were they the only ones thrown out? You can't have inconsistency if they had thrown them all out, then at least it would be clear that it is not tolerated, so did those ejected do anything else to warrant it? 3. Getting your season ticket cancelled for standing and having no prior warning is disgraceful and I would fully support a stand up protest at the next match to get their season tickets reinstated, and hopefully open up some dialogue with the club. The obvious solution for the club is to make the kop safe standing, get the singing section away from the away fans and the impressionable youth and then have a zero tolerance policy on standing. The other aspect of it is to create a bigger barrier of empty seats between away fans and family stand, it does make no sense to have them next to each other.
svensson Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 Fair point actually. The majority of posts on this thread have been based on an assumption and nothing more. It really is pathetic how reactive it all is in this country, absolutely pathetic. Discouraging atmosphere because of potential trouble ffs, ban the troublemakers and move on. Standing in the family stand is deemed as "trouble" though, so they dealt with the offender and everyone is crying about it. Lets face facts the guy was in the wrong.
I blame Wellens Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 It is worth noting that whenever these cases come up on FT, nobody knows the full details of why the person was taken out of the stadium. It is extremely rare if anybody is ejected for persistant standing only. It is usually combined with abusive or threatening behaviour towards others (particularly stewards). This is backed up by CCTV footage gathered over several games and the accounts of those who have been 'abused' ("**** off", "go and pick on the others that are standing you ****", etc). What's more, the fan in question is usually told that they are being watched, and are warned of the consequences. So by continuing to persistantly stand and be abusive they can have nobody to blame when they do get chucked out and banned. If you give the club a chance to act on a technicality (like weasel throwing a sandwich bag last season - which is an arrestable offence), then they are going to act on it. My advice to persistant standers is to move to L/K/SK1 and always abide by what a steward asks and be polite (if you want to stand, just do it a few minutes later - you need to act like you are complying). And at the end of the day, if you are in the family stand and swearing in earshot of little kids, rightly or wrongly, they are likely to act. Because the standers and the users of bad language are in the wrong section. You are everything that is wrong with the modern game. Everything!Tigers!!
I blame Wellens Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 You're clearly not a parent. When you take your 7 year old son to a game you don't want a big fat goon to stand 3 seats away from you shouting "you fvcking cvnt, 4rsehole cheating b4stard" ..... If that was in the KOP then yes, I'd just shrug and remember the typical mentality of some football fans ..... In the family stand I want to be able to share an experience of supporting the club that I've spent many hours at as a man and a boy with my great little boy. Without him looking at me, half scared, half in amazement and asking what the angry man is shouting and why. The family stand should have a family atmosphere (I'm not bothered if single blokes go in there - just as long as anyone behaving unsuitably is thrown out) and let the swearing etc happen in other parts of the ground. Everyone's happy. My experience of the family stand is that it's the worst stand in the ground for swearing - probably because the price of the tickets attracts the lowest common denominator. Move yourself to an executive box mate. You will be well away from us low life's with little money and a limited vocabulary. Better still get yourself down tigers.
GingerrrFox Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 Move yourself to an executive box mate. You will be well away from us low life's with little money and a limited vocabulary. Better still get yourself down tigers. Grow up. He doesn't want his young lad to be exposed to constant swearing. Some people care about how their kids are brought up.
Guest MattP Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 Standing in the family stand is deemed as "trouble" though, so they dealt with the offender and everyone is crying about it. Lets face facts the guy was in the wrong. What kind of a society have we become when a man moving to the back of a stadium to stand up is considered a trouble maker? Absolutely ridiculous.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 Well, it would appear that way to you I suppose. You live in a pitiable little world of your own where standing and singing are heinous crimes but homophobia and punching fellow City fans in the face are acceptable. If you had even a modicum of intellect I would furnish you with sufficient evidence to ruin your fantasies, unfortunately the reality is that you're in possession of a single figure IQ and a level of bigotry that would make the bastard love child of Vladimir Putin and Shirley Phelps-Roper blush. So to infer I am a "moron" for saying that people who stand, preventing others who pay for a seat,to see the game should be ejected if the club so wish, then I must be a "moron", but God only knows what that must make you. Probably the very lowest end of the Neanderthal era, or if you prefer, "Darwinism". I don't actually care what the so called norm is, but am I to understand that if you had a small son sitting to watch a game, you wouldn't mind some thick slob blocking his view, and not giving a toss? Perhaps you would be happy with him jumping up and down in his seat to see over the thick slob's shoulder? Probably the latter. At the end of the day the club will do what they want to do. Now get back to your Daily Mail and shy away from any semblance of reality, there's a good chap.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 Oh dear, I just cocked that post up. Must be a moron.
I blame Wellens Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 Grow up. He doesn't want his young lad to be exposed to constant swearing. Some people care about how their kids are brought up. Fair enough. Doesn't want his kid exposed to constant swearing. I agree. But did not like the way he made his point. And his point, is based on incorrect analysis of what actually goes on in N block. Yes there is the odd swear word and apologies the odd one has slipped out by yours truly. But as stated eloquently by few others on this thread, the amount of swearing is grossly exaggerated as many of us in N block are very conscious of the youngsters in front of us. We are indeed looking to create a bit of an atmosphere and enjoy a bit of banter with the opposition without that bloody drum. Yes I hate the sanitised version of the game that is generated by clubs like ours. And if you ask me if I preferred the way things were undoubtedly I would say yes (don't jump down my throat I don't mean hooliganism). Grown up enough for you.
Orange seat Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 I sit in the family with my 2 boys most games and very rarely do we hear swearing etc from individuals, N block or otherwise. We purposely sit as close to N block as possible as my 2 enjoy joining in with the chants now they're old enough to know the words to some of them. Part of the whole match day experience is the atmosphere in the ground as well as the footy being played. I've often spoke to my eldest about what it used to be like in the pens at Filbo, and I feel like he's missing out on a little part of growing up not being able to experience that.
Harry - LCFC Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 Well, it would appear that way to you I suppose. You live in a pitiable little world of your own where standing and singing are heinous crimes but homophobia and punching fellow City fans in the face are acceptable. If you had even a modicum of intellect I would furnish you with sufficient evidence to ruin your fantasies, unfortunately the reality is that you're in possession of a single figure IQ and a level of bigotry that would make the bastard love child of Vladimir Putin and Shirley Phelps-Roper blush. So to infer I am a "moron" for saying that people who stand, preventing others who pay for a seat,to see the game should be ejected if the club so wish, then I must be a "moron", but God only knows what that must make you. Probably the very lowest end of the Neanderthal era, or if you prefer, "Darwinism". I don't actually care what the so called norm is, but am I to understand that if you had a small son sitting to watch a game, you wouldn't mind some thick slob blocking his view, and not giving a toss? Perhaps you would be happy with him jumping up and down in his seat to see over the thick slob's shoulder? Probably the latter. At the end of the day the club will do what they want to do. Now get back to your Daily Mail and shy away from any semblance of reality, there's a good chap. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=n3s6YH2cHa0 1:30 Never has a Youtube video been more applicable to a conversation on FT.
Guest Bilo Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=n3s6YH2cHa0#t=90 1:30 Never has a Youtube video been more applicable to a conversation on FT. Sheldon's line was actually going to be a significant part of my response.
Guest Bilo Posted 21 October 2013 Posted 21 October 2013 Well, it would appear that way to you I suppose. You live in a pitiable little world of your own where standing and singing are heinous crimes but homophobia and punching fellow City fans in the face are acceptable. If you had even a modicum of intellect I would furnish you with sufficient evidence to ruin your fantasies, unfortunately the reality is that you're in possession of a single figure IQ and a level of bigotry that would make the bastard love child of Vladimir Putin and Shirley Phelps-Roper blush. So to infer I am a "moron" for saying that people who stand, preventing others who pay for a seat,to see the game should be ejected if the club so wish, then I must be a "moron", but God only knows what that must make you. Probably the very lowest end of the Neanderthal era, or if you prefer, "Darwinism". I don't actually care what the so called norm is, but am I to understand that if you had a small son sitting to watch a game, you wouldn't mind some thick slob blocking his view, and not giving a toss? Perhaps you would be happy with him jumping up and down in his seat to see over the thick slob's shoulder? Probably the latter. At the end of the day the club will do what they want to do. Now get back to your Daily Mail and shy away from any semblance of reality, there's a good chap.
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