Time to drop Nugent?

[Monsell1976]

Again.... what about Vardy who I say again, was apparently dogshite tonight?

To be fair col, the whole team weren't at the races, and I hope they all are feeling some sort of disappointment in their own performances.

I do get what you mean about vardy though, can't work out if I rate him or not, he is wasteful in front of goal, but causes no end of problems, think he would be better as a winger not a striker.

[cityfanlee23]

Col, they were all dogshite tonight. But Im not basing this on tonight alone. Im basing this on the last 6-7 games. For me, Vardy has been brilliant this season. His pace and never say die attitude has been great and he has scored some important goals. If he had taken Nugents penalties, Vardy would be well into double figures and where would Nuge be? Nugent had a good game against Ipswich and he is NOT a bad player by any means. He runs around causing problems, but he cant finish at the moment, and that is an issue, especially when we play good teams like Burnley and QPR. I want Nugent to play a massive part in this season, but he doesn't deserve a place right now. For me tonight was just an off-game for Vardy whereas for Nugent, its been a regular thing. I don't view him as a scapegoat but Wood should take his place against Brighton.

Now you'll get "but vardy didn't take the penalties nugent did" "are you taking nugent a penalties away?? Are you saying they don't count??"

I've had that for months mate, completely agree with everything you've stated, however we are fighting a losing battle, I've been fighting it for ages, and most weeks of the month I'm proved right

[steveherbe]

Our best striker is on loan at Millwall though

I was thinking that while reading! A Vardy/Waghorn strike force could be handy. Could be shite as well, but lets be honest, we need a productive striking pair. The ones we have now are hit and miss - mostly miss. We had 15+ strikes again tonight, and only scored 1. For me, thats where we will fail this season, if we fail. Personally I'd get Heskey back and re-sign the lad Claridge.......

[Freeman's Wharfer]

Time to drop him? Yes. But it's been that time for about three months now.

In fairness, Wood wasn't much better when he came on. I think in January we need a striker as a fourth option. Someone big, strong and pacy who could play with either Nugent, Vardy or Wood (who refuses to challenge aerial balls). In fact, the Connor Wickham who played against us tonight would be ideal!

[Mark_w]

Again.... what about Vardy who I say again, was apparently dogshite tonight?

 

Not trying to cause an argument here. Just a friendly debate between chums.

 

Don't you think that dropping our best striker this season on the back of one poor game would be a bit silly?

[cityfanlee23]

Time to drop him? Yes. But it's been that time for about three months now.

In fairness, Wood wasn't much better when he came on. I think in January we need a striker as a fourth option. Someone big, strong and pacy who could play with either Nugent, Vardy or Wood (who refuses to challenge aerial balls). In fact, the Connor Wickham who played against us tonight would be ideal!

Macheda should be fit (not looked up on him if he's already fit and going elsewhere?)

Ebanks Blake should be fit,

Both of them not renowned for thei goal scoring records, but nugent is not offering that either apart from his penalties,

I'd give Ebanks a whorl, wouldn't command a huge wage I'd of thought?

Think either of them would do a job for us

[hackneyfox]

We have no proper cover at left back or left CB.

We have no cover on the wings.

We need a goal scorer..

 

I hope someone has been busy.

[Mark_w]

We have no proper cover at left back or left CB.

We have no cover on the wings.

We need a goal scorer..

 

I hope someone has been busy.

 

LB Cover: Schlupp, Bakayogo (who hasn't had much of a chance really), Miquel.

CB Options: Miquel/Morgan/Moore/Wasilewski/St. Ledger (More than enough)

LM/RM: I agree.

ST: We've got one in Nugent and Wood scored 20 last season, he's got to be given a proper chance this season before we spend more money on another striker.

[Bert]

I think Nugent looks tired. Time to give Wood a start I think.

[Dickov22]

Nugent was awful this evening. It's unfair to blame Wood for his so called poor performance tonight. All we did was bang straight long balls up to him the entire time he was on the pitch. He looked sharp on Saturday against Millwall. Agree with Bert, Nugent needs a rest

[Oxfordfox83]

Nice to see the mood in camp has swung my way after a bad performance, another poster mentioned fickletalk?

Very true.

One week starting arguments with myself and other people who say he should be dropped,

Making excuse after excuse,

1 game later and "yeah maybe we should drop him a bit"

Love it,

Said it before and I'll say it again,

I hope I'm proved wrong, but he's been more cold than hot this season, and half of last season.

I praised him for his workrate last game even though he could of scored 2,

Tonight he was same old nuge, fvcking lazy, not bothering to try and make things happy, once again vardy chasing everything.

The only thing I will say for nuge tonight, the whole team were off tonight, I forgive them though because they've been more hot than cold.

Hope I'm proved wrong but I maintain (as we all know) sell whilst we can and attempt to find a replacement, at the end of the day if we find a player who can score penalties but doesn't offer much else for 75 mins of every game, we wouldn't have lost or gained much, but it's a gamble if take, I trust Nigel In the transfer market.

Unless of course nugent manages to bag 4-6 this month, and I may be swung.

You make two different points:

1. Nugent is off form.

Correct, and I'd argue he needs a spell out of the team.

2. Nugent should be sold for scrap immediately because we can get better in exchange for a packet of crisps.

This is where it goes wrong for you. He's a good player out of form. We haven't got anyone better and we couldn't easily buy anyone better. The first part of lots of your posts make sense but you get carried away, and TBH it sounds like the anti-Nugent thing is personal.

[Oxfordfox83]

Not trying to cause an argument here. Just a friendly debate between chums.

Don't you think that dropping our best striker this season on the back of one poor game would be a bit silly?

[Guest MattP]

Don't think I ever seen a team top of the league have so many changes called for.

[Happy Fox]

I don't think dropping him is the solution for me the issue isn't upfront but namely our wing backs,Wasyl isn't a RB, and Konchesky although solid hasn't got the legs anymore.

 

Need De Laet back as soon as possible and Schlupp at LB.

[Walker]

I'd rather play a tired Nugent than a fully fit Wood, at least he scares defenders by running at them from time to time. I'm not really sure what Wood offers at the moment- No strength, no creativity, no fight. This has been the case ever since we signed him, bar his his very good start. So there's not really many options to partner Vardy at present. Otherwise, i'd agree, Nugent should be dropped.

[Dickov22]

I don't think dropping him is the solution for me the issue isn't upfront but namely our wing backs,Wasyl isn't a RB, and Konchesky although solid hasn't got the legs anymore.

Need De Laet back as soon as possible and Schlupp at LB.

Yeah, let's drop one of our most consistent players this season and replace him with someone who :

A) isn't really a left back

B) hasn't played all season

[Walker]

I don't think dropping him is the solution for me the issue isn't upfront but namely our wing backs,Wasyl isn't a RB, and Konchesky although solid hasn't got the legs anymore.

 

Need De Laet back as soon as possible and Schlupp at LB.

 

Why exactly would we drop one of our top performers this season?]

 

Edit: Above beat me to it! 

[deanolegend1989]

Knee jerk reactions are so pathetic! this isnt a dig at the OP as its true Nuge has been kinda off form for a while but the rest of the posts would make you think were in the bottom 3! Its 1 bloody game, this doesnt mean suddenly everything is wrong with us in all positions. If we play the same team and win at Brighton with a Nugent double suddenly were getting promoted and Nugent will score 30.

End of the day this my team Id play vs Brighton:

 

Kasper

Moore Was Wes Konch

Knocky James Drinky Dyer

Nugent Vardy

 

Same team other than bring Moore at Rb and his pace should deal with Lua Lua. Was back to his best position. No knee jerkers, and stick to the same team. We will win.

 

Change the team and cry for Wood to come back..whack James out on 1 poor showing or even worse change to 4 3 3 is awful decision making at this time. Stick to the same and show it was a blip. Judging from the highlights we were unlucky tonight and we'll bounce back. If we change and lose again then what?

I feel sorry for Wood but when he comes on I hate it(due to knowing we will start hoofing it). The second we start hoofing it we might as well just shake the referees hand and walk off the pitch. This is the problem.

[Clazie]

I find it bizarre that the idea of changing up a team after a loss is considered so ludicrous on this forum.

Not saying Nugent is an awful player at all, just not in the best form. 

[formidable1]

I wonder if smiler will have something to say about the boo boys in the paper this week?

This masquerading as a striker has gone on for too long now. Take the suit off and lets see who you really are!

[dayday]

After the Forest defeat Nigel Pearson was quite upset and saying we need to be more ruthless in front of goal,i don't think it was just that game he was reacting to,Huddersfield,Bournemouth springs to mind.

I had a little peep at the Sheff Wed forum last night looking at what there side was and a poster on there match thread had put up some interesting stats,one was we have scored the most penalties(we pretty much new that)the second was Leicester City have had the most shots in all the leagues 219 chances.

Creating so many chances you would think the strikers would be banging them in,or at least have a few more to there tallys from open play.

As for David Nugent being tired we have just come back recently from another international break,poor excuse bert

[Charl91]

"You can't drop him because we're first and he's played a part in that" 

 

 

Maybe we'd be first with a bigger lead if he'd actually played well this season and hadn't been carried by other players.

[Crinklyfox]

I'm happy to leave the choice of strikers to NP.  We get to see how the strikers perform on the pitch, we don't see how well they are performing in training, how they work together, what issues they may have such as confidence, etc.  The manager is employed to take everything into consideration, including the opposition, and select the team to the best of his ability.  He won't always get it right, we're all human, but if he makes the right calls most of the time he'll get the best out of the team.  And if he gets the best out of the current side we'll win more matches than we lose. 

[cityfanlee23]

I think Nugent looks tired. Time to give Wood a start I think.

 

Bert, stop the excuses, hes played like this for months!

 

A few good games in 2 months is nothing to shout about

[cityfanlee23]

You make two different points:

1. Nugent is off form.

Correct, and I'd argue he needs a spell out of the team.

2. Nugent should be sold for scrap immediately because we can get better in exchange for a packet of crisps.

This is where it goes wrong for you. He's a good player out of form. We haven't got anyone better and we couldn't easily buy anyone better. The first part of lots of your posts make sense but you get carried away, and TBH it sounds like the anti-Nugent thing is personal.

 

You don't half twist things...

 

Have a read,

I stated:

 

He's the more natural finisher

He's got a record at this level

I hope I am proved wrong.

 

The reality,

He's been shit since january.

 

So how is it "Going wrong for me" Without wanting to start the whole, I was right shit. It doesnt bother me, I've had this opinion since january, and all of a sudden everyone agrees, it's taken them 11 months to come out of the woodwork, But all of a sudden I'm not finding myself in a public debate every week, because people FINALLY realise I have a point?

 

Why would you hang on to striker who is off form and out of contract?

 

Come january, Anyone can approach him and he can leave on a bosman for sweet FA,

So I'm not sure what you are banging on about?

Sell him whilst we can, and find a replacement,

As stated previous, If the replacement is shit, we have not lost anything by losing nugent, because he has been terrible more often than not since january.

 

 

It's not an anti nugent thing, I like the guy, i've rated him too many times, but being off form since january is no excuse.

 

It's seriously not a nugent agenda, It's just hes been one of the only players to have been more cold than hot and he's been dragged along by everyone else.

I KNOW that my opinion is correct, and that everyone will agree with me soon enough, and that is why after getting banned 4 times about the subject, and still not taking shit from the happy clappers after 1 good performance in 10, I stuck to my guns. and low and behold, these threads are popping up every week about him.

 

He's our best striker on past form, but on current form I'd replace him like a shot with so little on his contract, with one of the highest wages at the club.