The Doctor Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 He ruined his own reputation by sending those texts. We do know they made those comments as they are from their phone to their staff and to agents they was dealing with. What we don't know is why he sent them. The options are a) he's a racist, sexist, homophobic, antisemite b) he's a sexist, racist, homophobic, antisemite The dossier was sent to the FA a week ago too, only now have they been released. C. They're false allegations made by Tan in an attempt to destroy Mackay Until the fa have investigated the claims and decided a verdict, we don't know he actually made those comments. At the moment you're going on a witch hunt with no evidence he's a witch except comments made by a person known to hold a grudge with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 As I've previously said, surely if you want to sabotage Palace the surely you'd wait for them to hire Mackay and THEN release the details and force Palace to sack him and throw the club into chaos? I think we're all waiting with baited breath for Mackay to explain what he really meant by 'Fkn chinkys' 'Nothing like a Jew that sees money slipping through his fingers' 'Not many white faces amongst that lot but worth considering' To be fair he's spot on with that. The others comments are disgusting though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Monty Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2730307/Malky-Mackay-Iain-Moody-investigated-FA-sexist-racist-homophobic-text-messages-time-Cardiff.html For those that have yet to read the story or texts. If true, I think it is shocking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 21 August 2014 Author Share Posted 21 August 2014 C. They're false allegations made by Tan in an attempt to destroy Mackay Until the fa have investigated the claims and decided a verdict, we don't know he actually made those comments. At the moment you're going on a witch hunt with no evidence he's a witch except comments made by a person known to hold a grudge with him. The comments aren't made by Tan. They are made by MM and Moody. The dossier was compiled by a legal firm following a raid on Moody's house, not by Tan. They weren't looking for racism, they were looking for financial impropriety over transfer deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indierich06 Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 C. They're false allegations made by Tan in an attempt to destroy Mackay Until the fa have investigated the claims and decided a verdict, we don't know he actually made those comments. At the moment you're going on a witch hunt with no evidence he's a witch except comments made by a person known to hold a grudge with him. They were uncovered during a high-court sanctioned investigation into Moody over dodgy player recruitment. This would involve the company hired by tan checking emails and texts - which they had a high-court warrant for. No chance these are false allegations. Although I bet Tan couldn't believe his luck and took the first opportunity to ruin the bloke. There is plenty of bad blood between the two of them from both sides, looks like Tan's got his own back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 Point of note: the leak of this story could equally have come from a Crystal Palace source, given the report mentions they were provided with the information by Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 Cardiff need to pull their collective denims up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Fynwy Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 C. They're false allegations made by Tan in an attempt to destroy Mackay Until the fa have investigated the claims and decided a verdict, we don't know he actually made those comments. At the moment you're going on a witch hunt with no evidence he's a witch except comments made by a person known to hold a grudge with him. Do you honestly think the FA could investigate anything? It's a governing body for a national sport not the CIA, the LMA is already trying to brush this under the carpet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 For years I've thought the LMA were an Old Boys Network full of people who love to defend a manager (Proper Football Man usually) no matter what they do. And they haven't changed my view. Banter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADK Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 I know plenty of people that use language like that and I wouldn't describe them as racist etc... People do it because it's edgy and the fact it's socially unacceptable makes it somehow attractive. It's daft and unprofessional though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisFilter Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 I know plenty of people that use language like that and I wouldn't describe them as racist etc... People do it because it's edgy and the fact it's socially unacceptable makes it somehow attractive. It's daft and unprofessional though. If they use language like that, they're racist. It's pretty simple. Sneering contempt for people of other races = racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 Just a bit of 'friendly banter' according to the LMA: Eurosport : LMA: Mackay texts were 'friendly banter' - http://m.eurosport.com/football/premier-league/2012-2013/lma-mackay-texts-were-friendly-banter_sto4368024/story.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisFilter Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 Just a bit of 'friendly banter' according to the LMA: Eurosport : LMA: Mackay texts were 'friendly banter' - http://m.eurosport.com/football/premier-league/2012-2013/lma-mackay-texts-were-friendly-banter_sto4368024/story.shtml **** me. The stupid, stupid sods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 What I thought was absolutely absurd about that statement was that Mackay wanted to make it very clear that he hadn't sent anything homophobic or sexist. So, just racist then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 His talk about white players was out of order, he should **** off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 LMA doing themselves no favours here, I get that they have to try and defend their own but they surely should've stayed quiet about this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted 21 August 2014 Share Posted 21 August 2014 Malkay Mackay: 'It was just banter' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 22 August 2014 Share Posted 22 August 2014 Bloody banter. It's just become the go to word to excuse anybody who's been spouting any kind of prejudice crap, or anybody that's picked on somebody or anybody that's spread rumours about somebody. It's just a way of not having to admit you're a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 22 August 2014 Share Posted 22 August 2014 What I thought was absolutely absurd about that statement was that Mackay wanted to make it very clear that he hadn't sent anything homophobic or sexist. So, just racist then. Didn't he say something about the tits of a female agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozleicester Posted 22 August 2014 Share Posted 22 August 2014 "youd like to be bouncing on her falsies"........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 22 August 2014 Author Share Posted 22 August 2014 I think the LMA's press release shows why there is still a culture of silence in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 22 August 2014 Share Posted 22 August 2014 When did "banter" become a defence for being a complete twazzock? Do you honestly think the FA could investigate anything? It's a governing body for a national sport not the CIA, the LMA is already trying to brush this under the carpet. I would think that given things like this are handed to the fa as alleged misconduct to be investigated, it might get investigated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 22 August 2014 Share Posted 22 August 2014 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/redknapp-defends-mackay--he-hasnt-raped-anyone-and-he-is-not-a-paedophile-9685399.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 22 August 2014 Author Share Posted 22 August 2014 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/redknapp-defends-mackay--he-hasnt-raped-anyone-and-he-is-not-a-paedophile-9685399.html Saw that this morning. The man is a buffoon. Suddenly Mackay is the victim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 22 August 2014 Author Share Posted 22 August 2014 Cardiff are now reporting that the LMA have sat on that report for 3 months and done nothing. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2731727/Cardiff-City-furious-League-Managers-Association-statement-Ole-Gunnar-Solskjaer-says-talk-Kim-Bo-kyung.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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