Collo73 Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Buzzer , I never once said change Kasper. This is not my thread I merely commented on it. But to a degree I agree with the op. I go to every match home and away and win or lose I carry on. I don't believe the op is having a go at kasper he's just pointing out that we have a very good other keeper that may be worth a look. What's wrong with saying that?!?!
Buzzell Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Buzzer , I never once said change Kasper. This is not my thread I merely commented on it. But to a degree I agree with the op. I go to every match home and away and win or lose I carry on. I don't believe the op is having a go at kasper he's just pointing out that we have a very good other keeper that may be worth a look. What's wrong with saying that?!?! Fair enough then. We all have opinions on the club, we have different opinions on this debate but that's the whole point of a forum.
HighPeakFox Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 My point is that someone mentioned Kasper had conceded 5 in the last 2. A misleading statistic given all 3 in the win were unsaveable. I hope that is deemed a reasonable point of view
Collo73 Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Nice one Buzzer.. I think too many on here get too defensive. Like you say we all have opinions and none of us are shooting any of our players down we are just seeing different options. There is nothing wrong in that whatsoever. I was up at 6 to getthe 8 train today and to be fair we was Crap but I'm not gonna start slating them. We have come a long way and we have the best squad in many years. All the op was saying is we have options cheers
steveherbe Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Just for the record how many of the last few posts were actually there today? I was. Kasper was ok, he just doesnt fill me with confidence when crosses are coming in. He's a great keeper, Hamer is good at commanding his box though. Just opinions at the end of the day, we are lucky to have - at last - two top keepers
Collo73 Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 Steveherbe I echo your opinion. Great keeper in the making but when crosses come in not so great. Not blaming him for today at all but agree with the op, who in my opinion has been slated wrongly
st albans fox Posted 27 September 2014 Posted 27 September 2014 The way most if them played today, if KS needs dropping then they all do. last week - a disgrace he didn't get near di Maria's chip and why didn't he anticipate Liam's deflection and herrera's back heel. If you want to criticise him for not commanding his area under long crosses then I will accept that but this wasn't the issue today and hasn't been thus far this campaign. I think the repeated posts was because the original one was repeated. I thought it was funny. Sorry.
Aus Fox Posted 28 September 2014 Posted 28 September 2014 WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE! Drop them all, sack the manager, sack the board, sack Martin George, sell off the ground, bring down the government, arm up the nukes, run for the hills! Leicester lost one ****ing game! What the **** is wrong with some people???
Harry - LCFC Posted 28 September 2014 Posted 28 September 2014 In the long term we shouldn't rule out the possibility of bringing Hamer into the team. I Schmeichel doesn't peform we know we've got a player that might do better. Shouldn't ignore that option.
Leicester Lass Posted 28 September 2014 Posted 28 September 2014 In my opinion had Schmeichel played against Stoke we wouldn't have won. Hamer came and dealt with a lot of crosses that Schmeichel would have been stuck on his line for. They have very different qualities as keepers. Kasper really needs to improve from set pieces though else he'll be found out consistently at this level.
dayday Posted 28 September 2014 Posted 28 September 2014 In my opinion had Schmeichel played against Stoke we wouldn't have won. Hamer came and dealt with a lot of crosses that Schmeichel would have been stuck on his line for. They have very different qualities as keepers. Kasper really needs to improve from set pieces though else he'll be found out consistently at this level. Totally agree,fills me with no confidence at crosses,he needs to be stronger and show everybody it's his penalty area and will not be bullied. That's my only gripe with him,other than that he has a good all round game.
pleatout Posted 28 September 2014 Posted 28 September 2014 Are you allowed to play 2 goalies if you sacrifice an outfield player? (serious question) OK, I'll bite. Of course you can. But obviously not both in goal and one of them needs to be wearing an outfield players shirt not a goalkeeper shirt. Folk as old as me may remember Les Sealey, sub keeper for ?west ham? in the days of only 2 subs being on the bench, coming on and playing up front.
ADK Posted 28 September 2014 Posted 28 September 2014 I'd consider this if I were the manager. Kasper is useless at dealing with crosses.
foxfanazer Posted 28 September 2014 Posted 28 September 2014 Don't think Kasper performed bad enough to be dropped
maddog Posted 28 September 2014 Posted 28 September 2014 Kasper can't deal with crosses from set plays. Hamer definitely deserves more of a chance to prove his all around game is better than Kasper's overall. Looks more commanding with balls in the air.
foxfanazer Posted 28 September 2014 Posted 28 September 2014 Kasper can't deal with crosses from set plays. Hamer definitely deserves more of a chance to prove his all around game is better than Kasper's overall. Looks more commanding with balls in the air.Also looks quite prone to an error, just to balance it
maddog Posted 28 September 2014 Posted 28 September 2014 The way most if them played today, if KS needs dropping then they all do. last week - a disgrace he didn't get near di Maria's chip and why didn't he anticipate Liam's deflection and herrera's back heel. If you want to criticise him for not commanding his area under long crosses then I will accept that but this wasn't the issue today and hasn't been thus far this campaign. I think the repeated posts was because the original one was repeated. I thought it was funny. Sorry. Just because it hasn't been an issue so far this campaign in terms of conceding goals from set pieces (until yesterday) it doesn't make it right that Kasper stands motionless on his line for virtually all set pieces.If you continue to do the wrong things eventually it will cost. His shot stopping ability is up there with the best in the league but his ability to deal with crosses is down in the relegation zone of goalkeepers in this division.
foxfanazer Posted 28 September 2014 Posted 28 September 2014 Just because it hasn't been an issue so far this campaign in terms of conceding goals from set pieces (until yesterday) it doesn't make it right that Kasper stands motionless on his line for virtually all set pieces. If you continue to do the wrong things eventually it will cost. His shot stopping ability is up there with the best in the league but his ability to deal with crosses is down in the relegation zone of goalkeepers in this division. It's quite hard to make that decision though I think. I do think Kasper has to add this to his game if he's ever going to be world class
maddog Posted 28 September 2014 Posted 28 September 2014 Also looks quite prone to an error, just to balance it Kasper or Hamer? The former dropped the ball in the net once and Hamer has only played two games, aside from a nervous moment in the first half against Stoke Hamer has been very good. Even better considering he's lacking match practice. Hamer's kicking was poor to be fair but Kasper has kicked many a goal kick straight out of play himself. Burnley will play one up and hoof into the box next week. Against that style of opponent I think Hamer needs to start. Against Tica-Taca and lots of shots on goal coming in (Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal etc etc etc) Kasper should start. I wouldn't be against swapping the keepers more regularly, Pearson isn't against doing something radical that no other manager would even consider, regardless of the abilities of their number two keeper. Petr Cech the best example of that.
Charl91 Posted 28 September 2014 Posted 28 September 2014 Kasper or Hamer? The former dropped the ball in the net once and Hamer has only played two games, aside from a nervous moment in the first half against Stoke Hamer has been very good. Even better considering he's lacking match practice. Hamer's kicking was poor to be fair but Kasper has kicked many a goal kick straight out of play himself. Burnley will play one up and hoof into the box next week. Against that style of opponent I think Hamer needs to start. Against Tica-Taca and lots of shots on goal coming in (Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal etc etc etc) Kasper should start. I wouldn't be against swapping the keepers more regularly, Pearson isn't against doing something radical that no other manager would even consider, regardless of the abilities of their number two keeper. Petr Cech the best example of that. I agree with this actually. From what I saw against Stoke, I'd prefer Hamer against more physical teams. Kasper is the better shot stopper, but I don't see Burnley having too many shots (touch wood).
foxfanazer Posted 28 September 2014 Posted 28 September 2014 Kasper or Hamer? The former dropped the ball in the net once and Hamer has only played two games, aside from a nervous moment in the first half against Stoke Hamer has been very good. Even better considering he's lacking match practice. Hamer's kicking was poor to be fair but Kasper has kicked many a goal kick straight out of play himself. Burnley will play one up and hoof into the box next week. Against that style of opponent I think Hamer needs to start. Against Tica-Taca and lots of shots on goal coming in (Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal etc etc etc) Kasper should start. I wouldn't be against swapping the keepers more regularly, Pearson isn't against doing something radical that no other manager would even consider, regardless of the abilities of their number two keeper. Petr Cech the best example of that. To be fair we only have one game to judge Hamer on, unless you include pre season where he did look shake. Granted that's a bit unfair.Kasper has made good saves against Everton, Arsenal and Chelsea. I agree about the fact Hamer is more suited to those sort of games. It's an interesting one but I'd personally be surprised to see kasper dropped for any other reason than injuries
shade Posted 28 September 2014 Posted 28 September 2014 it should be open for discussion, whatever your opinion. I definitely think a goalkeeper should be droppable though.
pazzerfox Posted 28 September 2014 Posted 28 September 2014 What are you talking about? Are you saying Kasper should have saved both goals?
broughtonblue Posted 28 September 2014 Posted 28 September 2014 Fair comment from the op, we now have a strong back up option in the gk position. If Logan was still here and the op made the same point I would probably be slating him but not now.
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