What on the roads has annoyed you today?

[adam1]

On 22/09/2024 at 20:38, Tommy G said:

Ambling along a motorway slip road at 40 miles an hour about to join the motorway should be a automatic 3 points 

Again today joining the a46, idiot doing sub 40 AND drives to the very end of the slip road - do they know that other drivers dont have to give way? I assume they think they can just drive straight onto the dual carriageway/motorway

[UniFox21]

Really irks me when people are doing 50/60 in the first lane a mile or so pre junction.

 

Especially when there's a queue of them so you're dubious of being bake to overtake them all and make the junction. 

[RonnieTodger]

Whichever helmet decided to add a second crossing, 20 yards further down.

 

That’s already a bastard of a road during rush hour. 

Edited 10 October 2024 by RonnieTodger

[leicsmac]

Roadworks on the A47 going into Leicester. No pre announcement. Poor form.

[adam1]

Is it the done thing to drive on the opposite side of the road for a hundred so metres on a stretch you wouldn't even think about overtaking on (national speed limit), just because theres a bit of mud on the road and theres slightly less on that side? 

 

The before and after suggested that they weren't a competent driver.... 

[SecretPro]

On 10/10/2024 at 10:34, RonnieTodger said:

Whichever helmet decided to add a second crossing, 20 yards further down.

 

That’s already a bastard of a road during rush hour. 

100% agree. Apparently it was for the safety of students. Or at least the ones who can't be arsed to walk LITERALLY 10 metres.

[Stadt]

The bus lane on Groby Road is so wank. The bus even gets stuck in the traffic the bus lane causes.

[Legend_in_blue]

 

I can understand where this guy is coming from when he rides around London writing out the rulebook for everyone he passes but the way in which he came across this morning on the BBC was very much I am entitled to do as I like as I am on the cycle lane.  Really irked me.  Here's the cycle lane, blow everyone else, including people with limited sight for who this is a genuine concern when those awful pedestrian to cycle lane to pedestrian bus stop waiting areas to the road situations were discussed.

 

 

 

Edited 16 October 2024 by Legend_in_blue

[UniFox21]

The M6

 

Everyone is either speeding and getting a ticket, or going 60 as they're scared of getting a ticket.

[ajthefox]

Horrific crash on M6 today in Cumbria by the sounds of it.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/two-children-among-five-dead-in-m6-crash-13234386

[LCFCJohn]

8 hours ago, ajthefox said:

Horrific crash on M6 today in Cumbria by the sounds of it.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/two-children-among-five-dead-in-m6-crash-13234386

From a car driving the wrong way down the motorway. I can’t even comprehend how that happens.

 

Well, I know why. Either deliberately, likely for social media likes or heavily on drugs. No other reasonable explanation why.

[Tuna]

On 17/10/2024 at 05:51, LCFCJohn said:

Well, I know why. Either deliberately, likely for social media likes

Come on...

[adam1]

On 17/10/2024 at 05:51, LCFCJohn said:

From a car driving the wrong way down the motorway. I can’t even comprehend how that happens.

 

Well, I know why. Either deliberately, likely for social media likes or heavily on drugs. No other reasonable explanation why.

Age.

 

AA want to ban under 25s from having a passenger in the car yet over 80s are just as dangerous (and both sexes as for under 25s, predom male issue).

 

 

 

 

[Parafox]

6 hours ago, adam1 said:

Age.

 

AA want to ban under 25s from having a passenger in the car yet over 80s are just as dangerous (and both sexes as for under 25s, predom male issue).

 

 

 

 

 

There will come a time when the elderly drivers will be restricted. It's bound to happen. And I say that as someone who is approaching 70 (years, not MPH).

 

I have 40+ years of driving experience including blue light and class 1 HGV but I know my current skill level. It does alarm me that some elderly drivers I encountered when I was working and many of those I encounter now, are really quite poor in terms of anticipation, general awareness, not to mention hazard awareness, and their own abilities as a driver. 

 

 

Edited 24 October 2024 by Parafox

[adam1]

34 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

There will come a time when the elderly drivers will be restricted. It's bound to happen. And I say that as someone who is approaching 70 (years, not MPH).

 

I have 40+ years of driving experience including blue light and class 1 HGV but I know my current skill level. It does alarm me that some elderly drivers I encountered when I was working and many of those I encounter now, are really quite poor in terms of anticipation, general awareness, not to mention hazard awareness, and their own abilities as a driver. 

 

 

Worst of all is that public transport is poor and the amount of housing being built where people need to rely on cars, in a few decades time it will be very problematic.

[Free Falling Foxes]

17 hours ago, Parafox said:

 

There will come a time when the elderly drivers will be restricted. It's bound to happen. And I say that as someone who is approaching 70 (years, not MPH).

I like to think I would be aware if I became unsafe on the roads and 'self-regulate'. In fact, I have already done so. I will not now drive in the dark for example, as I find too many oncoming vehicle lights dazzling.

I would also welcome views of any family/friends who may notice any less than competent driving on my part.

That said, I agree that a formal and regular assessment as to your driving and awareness should happen after the age of 70 or 75 and these should be at least yearly for even older drivers.

[Parafox]

5 hours ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

I like to think I would be aware if I became unsafe on the roads and 'self-regulate'. In fact, I have already done so. I will not now drive in the dark for example, as I find too many oncoming vehicle lights dazzling.

I would also welcome views of any family/friends who may notice any less than competent driving on my part.

That said, I agree that a formal and regular assessment as to your driving and awareness should happen after the age of 70 or 75 and these should be at least yearly for even older drivers.

 

"Visual quality declines with ageing, even in individuals with 20/20 visual acuity. Glare due to intraocular light scattering increases with ageing, prompting many older drivers to curtail their night driving activities. Increased glare from HID headlights is one more visual hurdle for the older driver".

 

It's going to come to every driver eventually.

 

 

[The Bear]

My 70 year old mum doesn't like driving at night because she wears glasses and the glare from headlights reflected/refracted in her glasses headlights blinds her. 

Edited 26 October 2024 by The Bear

[UniFox21]

When cars incorrectly use fog lights and impact visibility more than the fog 

[UniFox21]

On 24/10/2024 at 12:58, adam1 said:

Age.

 

AA want to ban under 25s from having a passenger in the car yet over 80s are just as dangerous (and both sexes as for under 25s, predom male issue).

 

 

 

 

This is a ridiculous idea. With how bad public transport is, would hugely limit people's ability to travel around, and likely increase the numbers of cars.

 

It also stops anyone who had a child prior to 25 from driving them around. 

[Daggers]

Banned my wife from driving our car after she pranged it again. Two accidents and two write-offs in 6 years, all her fault, enough is enough. She’s become shockingly shit so I’m doing the government’s job for them. Everyone should have to take a slimmed down test every 5 years. If you still can’t parallel park after 30 years then fvck your licence.

[Facecloth]

My other half lives south of Derby and since going over there regularly over the past 18 months plus, I'm convinced nobody in Derby, including her, knows how to drive round a roundabout. This one isn't far from her house, so we often use it. Coming from Warwick Avenue turning right, she takes the red route, hugging the inside of the roundabout before shooting off at her exit. Everyone there does it, you can see the red car below doing it. The correct route is clearly marked, follow the lane round as it spirals to outside of the island, which is the blue route.

 

She insists she's driving it correctly despite what the road markings says. Everyone else in Derby seems to think it too, on multiple different roundabouts around the place. Everyone hugs the inside lane and shots off at their exit cutting across the outside lane. It's a death trap.

Edited 29 October 2024 by Facecloth

[FoxesDeb]

5 hours ago, Facecloth said:

My other half lives south of Derby and since going over there regularly over the past 18 months plus, I'm convinced nobody in Derby, including her, knows how to drive round a roundabout. This one isn't far from her house, so we often use it. Coming from Warwick Avenue turning right, she takes the red route, hugging the inside of the roundabout before shooting off at her exit. Everyone there does it, you can see the red car below doing it. The correct route is clearly marked, follow the lane round as it spirals to outside of the island, which is the blue route.

 

She insists she's driving it correctly despite what the road markings says. Everyone else in Derby seems to think it too, on multiple different roundabouts around the place. Everyone hugs the inside lane and shots off at their exit cutting across the outside lane. It's a death trap.

It's the complete opposite over here, the Spanish all drive round every roundabout in the outside lane regardless of which exit they are taking 

[Parafox]

7 hours ago, Facecloth said:

My other half lives south of Derby and since going over there regularly over the past 18 months plus, I'm convinced nobody in Derby, including her, knows how to drive round a roundabout. This one isn't far from her house, so we often use it. Coming from Warwick Avenue turning right, she takes the red route, hugging the inside of the roundabout before shooting off at her exit. Everyone there does it, you can see the red car below doing it. The correct route is clearly marked, follow the lane round as it spirals to outside of the island, which is the blue route.

 

She insists she's driving it correctly despite what the road markings says. Everyone else in Derby seems to think it too, on multiple different roundabouts around the place. Everyone hugs the inside lane and shots off at their exit cutting across the outside lane. It's a death trap.

 

It seems to be a natural thought process that, if you're taking a right turn at a traffic island, you need to be in the lane you show in red, i.e.  the one that hugs the island which is understandable if you passed your test  before the we had volume of traffic there is now and when roads/junctions/traffic islands were more simple to negotiate. Older drivers do seem to be easily confused by the modern road layouts.

 

For me, even when I was driving for my job, the Narborough Road approach to Fosse Park is very poorly marked out and regularly confuses people as to which lane they should be in.

[Facecloth]

31 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

It seems to be a natural thought process that, if you're taking a right turn at a traffic island, you need to be in the lane you show in red, i.e.  the one that hugs the island which is understandable if you passed your test  before the we had volume of traffic there is now and when roads/junctions/traffic islands were more simple to negotiate. Older drivers do seem to be easily confused by the modern road layouts.

 

For me, even when I was driving for my job, the Narborough Road approach to Fosse Park is very poorly marked out and regularly confuses people as to which lane they should be in.

Tbf she's only 43, so i don't think she'd fall into a category of older driver just yet 

 

Taking the line you mention is correct on a smaller single lane roundabout i guess but not a multi lane one like this. You can't be cutting across lanes to exit. I would say you want to be hugging the island for the first section, between exits 1 and 2, but as you pass exit 2 you need to spiral outwards in preparation to leave at exit 3. The lanes clearly show that too. It's perfectly reasonable for someone else to join the roundabout, from what was our exit 1 road to leave at the same exit as us, in the outside lane thinking the person in the inside lane in carrying on round to the right, to be then cut up by the person exiting from the inside lane. You're essentially changing lanes without checking, which you will have be taught not to do regardless of when you passed your test.

 

And all said and done, the lanes are very clearly marked here, and you have to adapt the changing rules and road markings over time, not just stick to how it used to be or how you learned. I do agree on some roads having horrendous markings, the one at Kegworth is awful, but I still know that unless it's a two lane exit from two lane roundabout, i shouldn't have a lane to my left as I'm exiting.