David Hankey Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Clegg, Farage & Miliband all gone, what a brilliant day. 3 points on Saturday and I'll be on Cloud 9 again!!
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Agree with almost everything you say (sorry about that!). Would like to add that Clegg should have re-signed as party leader at least a couple of years ago or the others should have ran him out. Lib Dem would probably have 60 seats now. Can only disagree with your final paragraph. The Scots are not (as a majority) in favour of independence. They are as a majority anti conservative policies and see no point in voting Labour anymore. I feel sorry for the Scots, Welsh and most northern areas of England. The Tories are not a party to help those who need it and will profit from it they are a party to help those who have it and can make more profit from it. I think the middle class (lower middle class) have been duped but as Strokes told me yesterday it's about "Aspiring". Wolf of Wall street and all that. I'd like him as PM. A far better blue than Cameron. That's exactly what doesn't make sense to me, I can't get my head round it. They don't want a Labour or Conservative government as voting yesterday showed, but they also don't want independence, as the independence vote showed, so what do they want? They are basically the only 3 options.
Guest Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 That's exactly what doesn't make sense to me, I can't get my head round it. They don't want a Labour or Conservative government as voting yesterday showed, but they also don't want independence, as the independence vote showed, so what do they want? They are basically the only 3 options. I imagine they want a UK government that listens to them and helps them out. Like we all do.
GingerrrFox Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 I imagine they want a UK government that listens to them and helps them out. Like we all do. No they have a self inflated view of their own importance and have some deluded notion that they can dictate to the rest of the UK. Labour lost this election simply because English people were anxious of an SNP coalition. They don't want to be dictated to by some jumped up Scotch bint.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Very sad to see Nigel Farage go, but very pleased to see a huge rise in the overall UKIP vote. They will only get stronger now. Absolutely delighted to see that worm Milliband go, and his pathetic, scum ridden Labour party, smashed out of sight. Well done SNP, for thrashing them In Scotland. More good news, is that the feeble, poisonous, Harriet Harman is to be the new Labour leader. That should be the final nail in Labour's coffin. Milliband's smarmy face was a picture, and seeing his false smile wiped off his face in disgrace, was wonderful. Well done David Cameron, and keep up the good work you have done, clearing up the shite that Labour left us in. In all, a great day.
Bobby Hundreds Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 More good news, is that the feeble, poisonous, Harriet Harman is to be the new Labour leader. That should be the final nail in Labour's coffin. Only temporarily.
Guest Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 No they have a self inflated view of their own importance and have some deluded notion that they can dictate to the rest of the UK. Labour lost this election simply because English people were anxious of an SNP coalition. They don't want to be dictated to by some jumped up Scotch bint. I think that's rubbish. The "English" (you know that you are all British don't you?) were fooled by the Tories into believing something else that wasn't true. It was simply an undercover form of nationalism that is sweeping the sad minds of so many "English". You do realise that Scots have been PMs in the UK before don't you?
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Andy Burnham should run for Labour leadership, he comes across as a really nice and sincere bloke.
Guest Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Mr Alexander told the BBC: "I lost my seat, that's democracy. Worse things happen to people." He said he hadn't expected the results to be "as bad as this", and said the party had "a lot of thinking to do about how to keep the flame of liberalism alive" against what he described as "the forces of nationalism and anti-Europeanism". I think this is a very true quote. The brainwashing of nationalism and anti-euorpeanism smacks of Hitler speeches I saw on the TV last night.
Bobby Hundreds Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Andy Burnham should run for Labour leadership, he comes across as a really nice and sincere bloke. I still see him as too close to Brown. It needs to someone completely removed from Blair & Brown.
Guest Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Andy Burnham should run for Labour leadership, he comes across as a really nice and sincere bloke. Can he smile, does he stumble, is his hair neat, is his wife photogenic?
Dr The Singh Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Can he smile, does he stumble, is his hair neat, is his wife photogenic?I'm interested in his wife
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 No they have a self inflated view of their own importance and have some deluded notion that they can dictate to the rest of the UK. Labour lost this election simply because English people were anxious of an SNP coalition. They don't want to be dictated to by some jumped up Scotch bint. So you are an expert on why Labour lost. Utter crap! They lost because people don't trust Labour, and trust the Tories more, for various reasons.
Guest Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Will it be a Lamb to the slaughter for the LibDems? Who else holds a seat for them?
Dr The Singh Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 So you are an expert on why Labour lost. Utter crap! They lost because people don't trust Labour, and trust the Tories more, for various reasons. Ahhhh, so your the expert Will it be a Lamb to the slaughter for the LibDems? Who else holds a seat for them? What about the wife?? I want to see pics
Captain... Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 That's exactly what doesn't make sense to me, I can't get my head round it. They don't want a Labour or Conservative government as voting yesterday showed, but they also don't want independence, as the independence vote showed, so what do they want? They are basically the only 3 options. Because they believed the polls, they believed that Labour and SNP could defeat the Tories so the stronger the SNP part of the "coalition" the better for Scotland, it isn't about independence, the SNP will not call for independence during this parliament, if they had done then they wouldn't have won as many seats. Ultimately it backfired as wavering Tory voters realised that possibility and voted in force, the fear of SNP having any power in Westminster was enough to drive people away from Labour, despite Ed saying he would never do a deal with the SNP. As for your comment on Clegg, can only agree, he destroyed all trust in himself and in the Lib Dems by pissing all over the electorate.
Guest Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 What about the wife?? I want to see pics Ewe want to see the pics of Lamb's wife?
Bobby Hundreds Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Ewe want to see the pics of Lamb's wife? Rack of Lamb. Yes.
Nalis Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 I think the Liberals (Clegg) took a very short term view last time and everyone I ever spoke to who voted Lib Dem said they never would again, they felt betrayed, they voted Liberal because their beliefs were almost the polar opposite to the Tories and Clegg stabbed them in the back all for a bit of power. They got exactly what they were due, I'm sure there were a lot of decent politicians who are now out on their arse because of the decision Clegg made 5 years ago, there was never going to be any other outcome, so I think calling Clegg a nice guy when he knowingly ruined his parties future 5 years ago is a bit of a stretch. I think it just shows that centre right politics is what people, not in this country, but across Europe want at present, and a man who looks like a Lizard the face of it. People are complaining Ed took Labour too far to the left, but I think that's what the majority of Labour voters/supporters want from the Labour Party, a left wing opposition/government. I think Ed was just never the right man, in an age where image is everything and substance is nothing he just didn't have the look or the charisma to lead the Labour Party, regardless of which direction he took them in, it should always of been his brother given what people tend to look to in politics these days, I thought at the time the Labour party were screwed when David didn't get in, he would of, at the very least, assured there wasn't a Conservative majority just because his face is more likeable. I'm ok financially, it suits me to have a Conservative government but I'm a firm believer that you shouldn't vote for yourself but those who need help, and that's why I'll never be a supporter of the Conservatives, regardless of my position in the world because I know now for the next 5 years the most vulnerable people in society will be attacked by this government, and my conscience would just never allow that. And one thing that I can't seem to get my head around is why, if Scotland are so pro SNP, did they not vote to be independent? Now they've a country with only SNP sets but being run by the Tories, doesn't make sense to me. Great post, agree with most of it.
GingerrrFox Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 I think that's rubbish. The "English" (you know that you are all British don't you?) were fooled by the Tories into believing something else that wasn't true. It was simply an undercover form of nationalism that is sweeping the sad minds of so many "English". You do realise that Scots have been PMs in the UK before don't you? When you have Alex Salmond, Nicola Sturgeon and the whole SNP party doing their best to create a divide between Scotland and England, the old patriotic fires were bound to ignite. Yes Scotland and England are part of the United Kingdom but historically and politically (apart from the North) they have always been poles apart in their beliefs. There has been animosity growing towards Scotland since the vote on Independence. They had the opportunity to break free and broke against it, yet still bang the same drum. So you are an expert on why Labour lost. Utter crap! They lost because people don't trust Labour, and trust the Tories more, for various reasons. You heavily underestimate the SNP's role in this election. Sturgeon said it herself, "it's Labours failure to beat the Tories in England as to why David Cameron is back in Number 10". The plan was clearly to have a Coalition between Labour and SNP with the belief that the Conservatives would not win anywhere near a majority. They underestimated just how strong the English belief is to be the dominant force in Westminster. Yes we may be a Kingdom of four nations but the old rivalries live on. The English always want to be on top.
Merging Cultures Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Someone just posted this bullsh!t http://www.communitycare.co.uk/2015/05/08/conservative-election-victory-signals-deep-cuts-social-care/ I replied in breaking news, other experts say it might not happen. it's pure hyperbole. The IFS source says 'unprotected'... What does that mean?
Guest MattP Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Fif you go from the sublime to the ridiculous, talks so much sense in one post then complete bollocks in the next. And, in a move that will shock no-one: galloway plays the race card and claims that the racists forced him out: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/george-galloway-blames-racists-and-zionists-for-defeat-to-naz-shah-in-bradford-west-10234791.html A white scot blaming anti-muslim and anti-asian sentiments for him being defeated by a pakistani muslim, you really couldn't make it up. Brilliant - "The veal, the vile, the racists and the zionists, the hyena can dance on the lions grave but he'll never be a lion", the guy is totally off his rocker. London Mayoral election for him next, guarantee you. A bunch of Turkey's voting for Christmas. When Rotherham came up as LAB Hold that's the thing I thought of.
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