Guest MattP Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 I'm glad that the majority of people have seen through Miliband. I fear for the NHS though Don't worry about it, Labour have been saying the Tories will privatise the NHS since 1992, it was bullshit then and it's bullshit now, they'd never do it as if they did they would never see power again. It's also a great opportunity now to really do a good job with it and prove them wrong, if they do that they also can go some way to changing the way people feel about the last thing they actually trust the Labour party with.
Captain... Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 A Tory majority is probably better for the country than another coalition, although I was looking forward to political reform being brought about by a hung parliament. To be honest the Tories won by default, the lib dems, labour and even UKIP have been shooting themselves in the foot all campaign making themselves unelectable, Cameron has been very much in the background just letting his opponents 'stunts' backfire.
Webbo Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 It's the SNP wot won it for us. I know my in laws were planning to vote Labour 3 weeks ago, when I saw them in the week they were terrified the Scots would hold the whip hand. We owe Nicola Sturgeon a big thank you.
MooseBreath Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 The cream always rises to the top. I don't think anybody can realistically argue now that people aren't feeling the benefits of lower taxes and unemployment and a strong, growing economy. The people have spoken.
Stevosevic Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 The cream always rises to the top. I don't think anybody can realistically argue now that people aren't feeling the benefits of lower taxes and unemployment and a strong, growing economy. The people have spoken. This.
Guest Col city fan Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Don't worry about it, Labour have been saying the Tories will privatise the NHS since 1992, it was bullshit then and it's bullshit now, they'd never do it as if they did they would never see power again. It's also a great opportunity now to really do a good job with it and prove them wrong, if they do that they also can go some way to changing the way people feel about the last thing they actually trust the Labour party with. Cuts Matt, cuts..
Guest MattP Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Cuts Matt, cuts.. Cuts are coming whoever is in power Col, we're 1.5trillion in debt and still borrow 90billion a year to make ends meet. Ed Balls gone, the perfect ending, the symbol of the economic incompetence of the Labour Party kicked out on his arse by the public.
Jon the Hat Posted 8 May 2015 Author Posted 8 May 2015 I'm glad that the majority of people have seen through Miliband. I fear for the NHS though Don't be silly. Labour have been bleating on about Tories killing the NHS since 1952, since which time we have had a tory govt more than half the time, and the NHS is the best it has ever been. Cuts are coming whoever is in power Col, we're 1.5trillion in debt and still borrow 90billion a year to make ends meet. Ed Balls gone, the perfect ending, the symbol of the economic incompetence of the Labour Party kicked out on his arse by the public. I am so happy. I would have settled for Ed Balls going on its own. This is a ****ing great day!
lgfualol Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Pretty frustrated Cameron and his mates got in again. Even more so Theresa May. Rupert Murdoch will be happy, and all the other multi millionaires. And the poor have another 5 years of blame. I wonder what the country will be like in 5 years.
Jon the Hat Posted 8 May 2015 Author Posted 8 May 2015 A Tory majority is probably better for the country than another coalition, although I was looking forward to political reform being brought about by a hung parliament. To be honest the Tories won by default, the lib dems, labour and even UKIP have been shooting themselves in the foot all campaign making themselves unelectable, Cameron has been very much in the background just letting his opponents 'stunts' backfire. If by "won by default" you mean wiped the floor with the best the opposition could put in front of them then yes. Like Football, you can only beat who the opposition put out. It was absolutely clear that a vote for Labour would have meant Labour and SNP governing together, and that wasn't what people wanted.
Ollie93 Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 The cream always rises to the top. I don't think anybody can realistically argue now that people aren't feeling the benefits of lower taxes and unemployment and a strong, growing economy. The people have spoken. You have to remember Conservatives have won with only 36% of the votes.
Jon the Hat Posted 8 May 2015 Author Posted 8 May 2015 Pretty frustrated Cameron and his mates got in again. Even more so Theresa May. Rupert Murdoch will be happy, and all the other multi millionaires. And the poor have another 5 years of blame. I wonder what the country will be like in 5 years. Stronger than it is today, and ready for a decent Labour government I expect. 10 years of one party is usually enough for the electorate. As I have said many times, our country has got to where it is through a reasonable balance of Tory and Labour governments correcting the worst of each others mistakes to head broadly in the right direction. I won't be too upset to see a strong Labour win in 5 years time, as long as spending is under control by then.
leicsmac Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 I'm honestly indifferent regarding this result. I don't think that a narrow Tory majority will be a disaster as some on here say, and as I vote social issues rather than economic ones Labour and the Tories aren't massively far apart on that kind of thing. That being said, this does mean Gove week be able to continue pushing his backward one size fits all views on education into the public arena, which is annoying. The most disappointing thing about this though is that it masks the horribly broken electoral system we have, and so allows Labour and the Tories to keep playing pass the parcel with government based on perhaps a hundred to hundred fifty swing seats. In any case, the wheel keeps turning. Pretty interesting the way the Scottish referendum issue led to this big of an impact.
Jon the Hat Posted 8 May 2015 Author Posted 8 May 2015 So it looks like there'll be an EU referendum by 2017 It does. No bad thing, I expect a win for stay in with some new rules.
leicsmac Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Stronger than it is today, and ready for a decent Labour government I expect. 10 years of one party is usually enough for the electorate. As I have said many times, our country has got to where it is through a reasonable balance of Tory and Labour governments correcting the worst of each others mistakes to head broadly in the right direction. I won't be too upset to see a strong Labour win in 5 years time, as long as spending is under control by then. This is reasonable.
MooseBreath Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 I'm honestly indifferent regarding this result. I don't think that a narrow Tory majority will be a disaster as some on here say, and as I vote social issues rather than economic ones Labour and the Tories aren't massively far apart on that kind of thing. That being said, this does mean Gove week be able to continue pushing his backward one size fits all views on education into the public arena, which is annoying. The most disappointing thing about this though is that it masks the horribly broken electoral system we have, and so allows Labour and the Tories to keep playing pass the parcel with government based on perhaps a hundred to hundred fifty swing seats. In any case, the wheel keeps turning. Pretty interesting the way the Scottish referendum issue led to this big of an impact. Keep up Mac-daddy, Gove is long gone from education.
lgfualol Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Please Theresa May if you're reading, don't turn the country into '1984'. Thanks.
MooseBreath Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Labour's initial reaction to this defeat has been seriously lacking in good grace. Blaming Scotland, saying they fear for the country. Amazing that it's obviously going to take some PR whizzkid to tell them that showing a modicum of class in defeat is expected behaviour.
bovril Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Shame about Balls. Especially when you consider Liam Byrne - who lost Labour thousands of votes with his oh-so-hilarious note - keeps his seat.
Babylon Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Pretty frustrated Cameron and his mates got in again. Even more so Theresa May. Rupert Murdoch will be happy, and all the other multi millionaires. And the poor have another 5 years of blame. I wonder what the country will be like in 5 years. I do take issue with stuff like this, people seem to act like the rich weren't creaming it in and getting away with shit before the conservatives got in. The often brought up one is how much ftse 100 ceo's are paid and how much it has gone up... that's been sky rocketing since 2004. Big businesses have also been avoiding tax since they were asked to pay it. These things suddenly haven't popped up in the last four years. Amazon paid no corporation tax in 2009 under labour. Neither did starbucks. Last year the biggest 100 companies hit it's highest since 2007. So it makes me wonder, what exactly did labour do in 08/09 that start it to decline so much. I'm no expert, but were there tax breaks given and loop holes kept open because of the financial crisis? I don't know, but like I say it's not just a conservative thing.
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