dedlock Posted 31 December 2014 Posted 31 December 2014 Of course he could. This is Hollywood,not reality. Was M a woman? Whilst Q's boxes of tricks were clever,did the gadgets in the book ever match those on screen?
Babylon Posted 31 December 2014 Posted 31 December 2014 There was an item on R4 that I caught this morning (don't normally listen to R4 in the morning, but a caller to R5 had made me so irate I turned over) and it was talking about racial diversity in films. It was editted by Lenny Henry and he was that he had no problem with the cast of a program like Downton Abbey being all white, so long as there were plenty of racial diversity amongst the production and film crew, it's just common sense. They also talked about the next incarnation of Captain America being black - which kind of ties inwith what you were saying. There was protest that Marvel were making an already popular character black rather than creating (and taking a risk on) a new black character. Of course, with some superheroes it isn't really an issue as many have been killed off or retired, with a new incarnation rising as someone else takes up the mantle - in fact Cap America is a prime example of this, so in many ways the point is moot, but still caused protest amongst black Americans apparently. Also Marvel are making a Black Panther film, which should be interesting. You can't really do it with Bond but what you could do is make a black guy 007, having killed off Bond - the 00 moniker being a kind of codename/callsign. I highly doubt that Ian Fleming intended that Bond was black (I've never read the books so I can't be sure) and with 20+ (30+?) films as a white guy, it really would be a stretch. The argument though is, as I said above, why do you need to shoehorn a black guy into an established roll? Why can't you create a new black hero instead - Bourne worked quite well in a similar vein. Interestingly when was reading Jame's Paterson's Alex Cross books, I never realised that Cross was black (I hadn't seen any of the films either) until the third book I read (can't remember which one) and the thing that gave it away, rather than any overt statement that Cross was black was that he gave his son nuggies. I think that's spot on Trav and pretty much nails my view point.
phg Posted 31 December 2014 Posted 31 December 2014 Don't see why a black person couldn't be. It's not like the films have stuck that close to the books. I can't imagine Fleming would have written about Bond requesting a heineken for starters... Don't see why a black person couldn't be. It's not like the films have stuck that close to the books. I can't imagine Fleming would have written about Bond requesting a heineken for starters... Don't see why a black person couldn't be. It's not like the films have stuck that close to the books. I can't imagine Fleming would have written about Bond requesting a heineken for starters... Heineken shaken not stirred :xmaslaugh:
Guest Posted 31 December 2014 Posted 31 December 2014 If Annie can be a black girl, Bond can be a black man. Did black girls even get into orphanages in those days?
Bettsj2 Posted 31 December 2014 Posted 31 December 2014 If Annie can be a black girl, Bond can be a black man. Did black girls even get into orphanages in those days? Annie is a re-boot not a remake so the original political issues dont count.
Guest Posted 31 December 2014 Posted 31 December 2014 And Moses is being played by a Welshman! That explains some things.
bovril Posted 31 December 2014 Posted 31 December 2014 That explains some things. I'm not sure Rhyl is the Promised Land.
Dr The Singh Posted 31 December 2014 Posted 31 December 2014 And Moses is being played by a Welshman!Moses was never white, he was brown
bovril Posted 31 December 2014 Posted 31 December 2014 Moses was never white, he was brown Remi Moses?
MPH Posted 31 December 2014 Posted 31 December 2014 Punjabi Speaking of Punjabi, I used to watch Kabaddi on channel 4 on a saturday morning. Loved it! i remember a beast of a man called Balvinder Singh. He represented the Punjab region , i think. He'd often take 2-3 men back over the line clinging to his ankles. He'd of made a great Moses, although it would of made a short film " Let my people go!" " Absolutely"
The Horse's Mouth Posted 31 December 2014 Posted 31 December 2014 which is the one where the laser beam goes up his jaffers
DennisNedry Posted 31 December 2014 Posted 31 December 2014 Wasn't there a bit of an uproar amongst the hardcore fans when Daniel Craig was cast because he's blonde and blue eyed unlike previous Bonds? Imagine the reaction if they cast a black actor as Bond! If they want to go the whole hog in terms of being PC, why not make him a gay black guy in a wheelchair? Surely nobody would suspect such a character as being a spy, and there's a lot of potential for wheelchair related gadgets. On to a winner there.
Jordan Posted 31 December 2014 Posted 31 December 2014 Wasn't there a bit of an uproar amongst the hardcore fans when Daniel Craig was cast because he's blonde and blue eyed unlike previous Bonds? Imagine the reaction if they cast a black actor as Bond! If they want to go the whole hog in terms of being PC, why not make him a gay black guy in a wheelchair? Surely nobody would suspect such a character as being a spy, and there's a lot of potential for wheelchair related gadgets. On to a winner there. Why is this "PC" and not about just casting a decent British actor that's cool enough to play the role?
Danizen Posted 31 December 2014 Posted 31 December 2014 I think this will all blow over. I remember people losing their collective shit because Daniel Craig is blond but when Casino Royale was released, nobody cared.
lestajigs Posted 31 December 2014 Posted 31 December 2014 No way, it just would not be right at all I think this will all blow over. I remember people losing their collective shit because Daniel Craig is blond but when Casino Royale was released, nobody cared. Think Daniel Craig is one of the best bonds tbf
Freesolo Posted 1 January 2015 Posted 1 January 2015 If he can dodge bullets jump over enormous rooftops and do other death defying shit that would have you killed in about 2 minutes living the life of 007 then why on earth should there be a problem with him being black?
yorkie1999 Posted 1 January 2015 Posted 1 January 2015 which is the one where the laser beam goes up his jaffersGoldmember, the spy who shagged me.
Nick Posted 1 January 2015 Posted 1 January 2015 The fictional depiction of that Jesus fella..... could he be played by a black fella?
ithuriel Posted 1 January 2015 Posted 1 January 2015 Would need yet another reboot, which would be a bit tiresome. The movies over the years have shown him to be white, Live and Let Die being a good example. Sometimes I think they do these gender, race swaps just to try and be a bit edgy and try to mask that they are running short of ideas to cover for poor writers. The real fun will come when they make the suggestion that Superman or Batman should be black, that would be interesting in the States
Merging Cultures Posted 1 January 2015 Posted 1 January 2015 The fictional depiction of that Jesus fella..... could he be played by a black fella?Well he wasn't white...
bovril Posted 1 January 2015 Posted 1 January 2015 Well he wasn't white... I wonder if they had similar arguments on 'icontalk' when designing churches in medieval Greece. "What you doing, Jesus wasn't white!" "Well he didn't feed 5000 either so what's your point?"
Merging Cultures Posted 1 January 2015 Posted 1 January 2015 Probably happening right now in a parallel universe
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