Gary Eatfood Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 The lot of them can fvck off, boring, predictable cricket and seen off with games to spare. Outclassed by the best and couldn't cope with Bangladesh. Just sack Moores now and get a proper coach in who understands players not textbooks. Shocking effort all round. Former England batsman Kevin Pietersen on Twitter: I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS! I JUST CANNOT! But, well done Bangladesh! You deserved it! #ENGvBAN KP definitely wasn't predictable. How we miss him.
Bobby Hundreds Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 We need an overseas ODI coach. Aggers mentioned Stephen Fleming which is a great shout. Former England batsman Kevin Pietersen on Twitter: I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS! I JUST CANNOT! But, well done Bangladesh! You deserved it! #ENGvBAN KP definitely wasn't predictable. How we miss him. We were shit in ODIs when KP played.
Corky Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 Third time in five World Cups we've gone out in the group stage.
walkerleeds Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 Former England batsman Kevin Pietersen on Twitter: I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS! I JUST CANNOT! But, well done Bangladesh! You deserved it! #ENGvBAN KP definitely wasn't predictable. How we miss him. Didn't take him long to chirp up did it! 1 win in 5- how the hell has that happened
RowlattsFox Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 I've always wondered how much of an impact a coach has on a cricket team, until Lehman took control of the Aussies and transformed them. English cricket is years behind the rest, the whole system needs fresh ideas. Training methods, coaching, selectors and everything else needs looking at.
Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 Moore's had to go for this. Need someone like Vaughan or Gillespie to come in and allow players to play with freedom.
Alexikokopops Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 Baaaaaahahahahaha you have to laugh. I wasn't expecting the World Cup but I thought we might do a bit better than this.
Bobby Hundreds Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 I've always wondered how much of an impact a coach has on a cricket team, until Lehman took control of the Aussies and transformed them. English cricket is years behind the rest, the whole system needs fresh ideas. Training methods, coaching, selectors and everything else needs looking at. We are over coached if anything, look at Finn over the last 18 months he was nearly coached out of cricket entirely. There's also too much emphasis on stats, probably brought in by Fletcher and Flower. They can all play, pick the best ODI players and let them play, it's really not rocket science.
Corky Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 Former England batsman Kevin Pietersen on Twitter: I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS! I JUST CANNOT! But, well done Bangladesh! You deserved it! #ENGvBAN KP definitely wasn't predictable. How we miss him. Don't think we miss him, we are shackled and predictable. We hardly ever change the batting order with the state of the game, the Powerplays never taken early, love to knock 80 runs in singles between overs 15 and 35. Teams are smashing 350, or 400 quite regularly. We seem to think 270 is a decent score, even the minnows can rack that up and more. I do think Morgan is slightly unfortunate in that he was thrown into the captaincy very late but his batting is out of sorts and then some. The bowlers stick to their bang it in short and hope for the best policy near the end. Then the batting fails and the bowling is under pressure and vice versa. Just seen a stat that we've beaten four Full Members in the last seven World Cups. Ireland have beaten 5. Shambolic.
Alexikokopops Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 Haaaaaaaahahaha as if he's actually gone and said this Peter mate, I'm a data analyst and even I'm embarrassed.
Swarles Barkley Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 Absolutely pathetic. Glad we are out now rather than in the quarter final.s. Give much more emphasis on how shît we are and how far behind we are even being competitive in this format. Overhaul required, but it will typical England, constantly changing the team, having no clue what the best team is, playing negative cricket and another disappointing world cup in four years time
purpleronnie Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 I'm afraid I'm not surprised, that's why I put money on Bangladesh, never like backing the opposition but couldn't miss this opportunity. Embarrassing, gutless, spineless, etc etc...
FrankieADZ Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 i do really question why we got Peter Moore's back....need someone with fresh ideas...& all that. I'd love to see Michael Vaughan to be head coach
Bobby Hundreds Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 Haaaaaaaahahaha as if he's actually gone and said this Peter mate, I'm a data analyst and even I'm embarrassed. The man is a clown, please get rid England.
ealingfox Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 Their support is admirable but it doesn't help that the Barmy Army are the biggest bunch of happy-clappers in sport. Never show any displeasure at the ECBs moronic incompetency so they will continue thinking they can carry on with their utter bullshit. If this were Newcastle United the city centre would be littered with horse carcasses by now.
Corky Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 Even the Malaysian cricket team are trolling us To be honest, given our recent record, we should have to play these sides to qualify. 60% first round exit rate in the last five tournaments. Being a Test side shouldn't automatically give us the right to play in a World Cup when we perform so abjectly.
ealingfox Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 Well, at least we beat Scotland in their cup final.
chrishlcfc Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 Actually glad we lost, cannot put up with watching anymore of that shit, it was as bad as when i sit down and watch the county when i finish work. Had £20 on bangladesh anyway because as i wrote earlier in the thread i just knew we were going to lose.
CKB Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 Where do I start? The ECB have alot to answer for, we were progressing well, years ago but then it just all stopped, we have now gone backwards.. Things got complicated, coach for this, stats for that, etc, etc The appointment of Moores was a joke, we needed a new fresh approach, someone who would simply tell our players to do what they are best at & not what "data/stats" tell them what is best I did a post years back praising the ECB & their progression, I now compare them to the FA and that as we all know isn't a good thing You can have anyone playing for England right now but until a change is made, until a fresh approach is took we will keep getting worse with that willy puller in charge Yes players haven't been great, but once again if tactics are wrong, when they are being told to do this & that then maybe the problem solely is with the management.. Buttler should not be coming in at 7! once again team management, Hales should have been starting, Bell should not be opening, etc Yes our bowlers can be one dimensional but you don't turn crap overnight are they once again being told how to bowl according to them stats/data? Yes data/stats can be useful but it seems this management is obsessed by them The ECB can sort this out by getting back to basics, getting rid of Moores & getting in someone who is just gonna let the players play to their strengths! Look at what Lehmann did for Australia! I don't think the grass roots of English cricket are broke, I believe with the right person in charge, players that come in can make us proud again & we can start to be progressive again.. I feel abit for Morgan he clearly has been thrown in under the wrong management & he's probably going to get the boot aswell but if this is all for the benefit of English cricket then so be it
marko Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 Yes data/stats can be useful but it seems this management is obsessed by them Atherton has just been talking about this and he's said it's a misconception that this regime rely on stats - they're used far less than the Flower era and less than a lot of the teams at this World Cup.
Guest Col city fan Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 Have I just heard right? England out the World Cup already?
marko Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 The one good thing to come out of this debacle is that Piers Morgan is most upset.
ADK Posted 9 March 2015 Posted 9 March 2015 Have I just heard right? England out the World Cup already? Still got the chance to lose to Afghanistan.
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