Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 I noticed the test squad will be announced later this afternoon. Will be interesting to see how we line up, would expect to see Trotty back in the mix but would you drop Ballance? He was great in the test side but really struggled out in Australia. My 11 would probably be.CookTrottBallanceBellRootAliButtlerRashidBroadPlunkettAnderson
Guest MattP Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 Think Trott will come back and Mark Wood will be called in after the Lions tour. CookTrottBallanceBellRootAliButtlerBroadWoakes WoodAnderson
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 18 March 2015 Posted 18 March 2015 I noticed the test squad will be announced later this afternoon. Will be interesting to see how we line up, would expect to see Trotty back in the mix but would you drop Ballance? He was great in the test side but really struggled out in Australia. My 11 would probably be. Cook Trott Ballance Bell Root Ali Buttler Rashid Broad Plunkett Anderson Test squad? I would like to see Titch Taylor in there as he is made for test cricket and maybe Vince from Hants.
Guest Posted 20 March 2015 Posted 20 March 2015 Not speaking about the England team as much as the sport in general. In India, Pakistan, Bangladesh it's the most important sport but in England it seems the sport has dropped out of society's consciousness. It's talked of very little and other than the Ashes it seems to have drifted into minority status. At least that's how it appears from here in France. Is that a realistic view or is it false? Is it temporary and due to England's poor form? Has the removal of it from BBC TV affected its popularity? Is it still taught in schools? How large are the school leagues? Is Cricket in Terminal decline in England?
Trav Le Bleu Posted 20 March 2015 Posted 20 March 2015 What in the same way that West Indian cricket is in terminal decline, or that Australian cricket was in terminal decline in the early 50s or that... every sports team has peaks and troughs; this is a trough, expect peaks in the future.
Corky Posted 20 March 2015 Posted 20 March 2015 It will never be the most popular sport but the Ashes in 2005 saw a boom period for a while. On the BBC we were a fairly poor side, only after the move to Channel 4 did we improve and then with Sky we became the best Test team, partly due to increased finances. I don't think it's in terminal decline, the people at the top aren't good enough, the coach failed before and was given another chance, the managing director inspires no confidence, the selectors are set in their ways. It feels like a cliquey yet comfortable set-up for so many. Under Fletcher and Flower we were a good side but cricket, like most sports, is cyclical and currently we are struggling. I don't believe it is taken too seriously in state schools, in public schools it still appears to be very popular. Certainly I played half hearted cricket at school, we had about 5 matches a year. Honestly, even as someone who loves the game, I can see why Test cricket doesn't appeal. Kids will now want to play T20, which is the current favourite and I can understand that due to the time commitments and speed of the game. England will always prioritise Test matches so we'll have a better idea as to where we are this time next year after the 17 Test matches upcoming. No doubt the removal of live cricket from terrestrial had an impact on viewership, interest and participation but even then the coverage was limited, often sessions of play would be missed due to Countdown and racing. Sky are not perfect , without them I don't believe the game would be strong in this country though.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 20 March 2015 Posted 20 March 2015 It will never be the most popular sport but the Ashes in 2005 saw a boom period for a while. On the BBC we were a fairly poor side, only after the move to Channel 4 did we improve and then with Sky we became the best Test team, partly due to increased finances. I don't think it's in terminal decline, the people at the top aren't good enough, the coach failed before and was given another chance, the managing director inspires no confidence, the selectors are set in their ways. It feels like a cliquey yet comfortable set-up for so many. Under Fletcher and Flower we were a good side but cricket, like most sports, is cyclical and currently we are struggling. I don't believe it is taken too seriously in state schools, in public schools it still appears to be very popular. Certainly I played half hearted cricket at school, we had about 5 matches a year. Honestly, even as someone who loves the game, I can see why Test cricket doesn't appeal. Kids will now want to play T20, which is the current favourite and I can understand that due to the time commitments and speed of the game. England will always prioritise Test matches so we'll have a better idea as to where we are this time next year after the 17 Test matches upcoming. No doubt the removal of live cricket from terrestrial had an impact on viewership, interest and participation but even then the coverage was limited, often sessions of play would be missed due to Countdown and racing. Sky are not perfect , without them I don't believe the game would be strong in this country though. For the reasons above, I see the same thing happening with rugby union. Autumn internationals and 6 Nations drag the best players away from club sides for almost half the season now, much as test matches do to county cricket teams.
ScouseFox Posted 20 March 2015 Posted 20 March 2015 it's still headline news when something england team happens, but i doubt more than about 1 in 5 could name more than one player for each of the top counties. i quite enjoy watching test cricket, the ashes etc but i know i could name maybe 2 or 3 lancashire players (my local county) at most. the main news for about the past 2 years has been KP though and that is not going to attract anyone to cricket, because it's a bad story and mainly because it's fvcking boring.
Guest Posted 20 March 2015 Posted 20 March 2015 What in the same way that West Indian cricket is in terminal decline, or that Australian cricket was in terminal decline in the early 50s or that... every sports team has peaks and troughs; this is a trough, expect peaks in the future. I'm not really thinking about the England team. I'm thinking about the sport. I haven't looked into stats but it seems to be played by less and less people, it certainly has less press time than it used to (though probably still more than its participation rate). It seems from my distant view point to be a sport in decline in England - I'm not speaking about the last 2 years but the last 50 - 100.
Guest Posted 20 March 2015 Posted 20 March 2015 I loved watching every day of every test match (home only perhaps) on the BBC. As a kid I could name every international player from every team. We used to play cricket at secondary school but that was before the sport's grounds were sold off. Other sports seem to be growing but cricket seems to have been in decline for the whole of my life (apart from occassional peaks when England win the ashes).
Nalis Posted 20 March 2015 Posted 20 March 2015 Not speaking about the England team as much as the sport in general. In India, Pakistan, Bangladesh it's the most important sport but in England it seems the sport has dropped out of society's consciousness. It's talked of very little and other than the Ashes it seems to have drifted into minority status. At least that's how it appears from here in France. Is that a realistic view or is it false? Is it temporary and due to England's poor form? Has the removal of it from BBC TV affected its popularity? Is it still taught in schools? How large are the school leagues? Is Cricket in Terminal decline in England? As someone who isnt that much of a cricket fan, its probably the second biggest sport in England in terms of media coverage and that includes rugby union. Peaks and troughs my friend.
Guest Posted 20 March 2015 Posted 20 March 2015 As someone who isnt that much of a cricket fan, its probably the second biggest sport in England in terms of media coverage and that includes rugby union. Peaks and troughs my friend. Where does it rate in participation?
Guest Posted 20 March 2015 Posted 20 March 2015 Where does it rate in participation? Just researched it myself and it appears to rank between 13 and 18 for participation sports in England. That must be a lot lower than 50 to 100 years ago.
RonnieTodger Posted 20 March 2015 Posted 20 March 2015 Jesus, I didn't realise the 4-0 over India was 4 years ago.
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 20 March 2015 Posted 20 March 2015 Like many sports it's propped up by Sky, they pull the money out cricket will be in serious trouble.
MooseBreath Posted 20 March 2015 Posted 20 March 2015 Cricket still gets plenty of coverage. Wouldn't be surprised if it's declining though. We're increasingly a time-poor, cash-rich society who likes quick fix entertainment solutions. Ain't nobody got the time nor the attention span to sit and watch cricket no more.
ealingfox Posted 21 March 2015 Posted 21 March 2015 New Zealand will win this. Two good semis in store.
Gary Eatfood Posted 21 March 2015 Posted 21 March 2015 Martin Guptill has just played the greatest ODI innings I've ever seen. Amazing finishing including a 6 that landed on the roof!
Guest MattP Posted 24 March 2015 Posted 24 March 2015 This is an incredible chase so far. McCullum treating Steyn with total contempt.
Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 24 March 2015 Posted 24 March 2015 Good game of cricket this. Can see New Zealand bottling it in this last 10 overs against some decent bowling.
I am Rod Hull Posted 24 March 2015 Posted 24 March 2015 Cracking game, dropping Elliott right at the end there was huge.
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