smudgerfox Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 We're trying to sign Aaron Lennon ! Obviously wide right we're completely out of options - Mahrez, Knockaert, Albrighton. Unbelievable.
MattyFromLE Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 Right I wanna go on record as supporting Pearson as I always have, that said his time is running out and I'm starting to question a few things. Lack of signings and failure to strengthen the team in summer I can understand, I had faith in these players, I thought these players would step up, I thought they were good enough for survival at least. I was wrong, I can't then slag Pearson off for obviously having the same faith and thoughts about these players, that said even if they did live up to what I've said above we could always do better, get better than what we already have. Now, this transfer window, we're half way through the season, we're bottom, we're struggling and the players we have aren't living up to expectations and aren't good enough, Pearson's done not a lot about it, I can't really justify that, I can't really stick up for him. Ok it's 'proving to be difficult bringing players in' but I'm sure he could do much more. What, like pay over the odds for a overrated premier league has-been? Get relegated and be lumbered with them?
Dan Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 Perhaps because the defence isn't as bad as people make it out to be half the time. Some terrible glaring errors aside we rarely look like getting ripped apart by most teams. We've conceded 5... yes FIVE less than QPR. A team who most people on here were bumming in the summer for some of their signings. Caulker for one. Burnley have conceded more and they had a better defensive record than us last year. Newcastle only two less, Everton and Palace three less. We are there or there abouts the others in terms of goals against. We are as well for goals for, but you take away the anomaly of the Man U home game and it highlights a serious problem in attack. The problem isn't collectively our defending (though it's questionable at times) it's their lack of composure on the ball. They're their own worst enemy at times.
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 My patience with the man has ran out. This season has been a joke. Money was there all along and he's tried to blame Terry Robinson but the likelihood is he's been far too loyal to the players who got him up and we've paid the price. The gamble backfired, our confidence and winning mentality was lost and it's probably never to return under this tenure. He's had a mare this season. Prat I support Pearson but fear this may be true
kingcarr21 Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 Pearson cant win. If he went and signed players on big wages in the summer he would have been slated for not sticking to the team that got us promoted and end up looking like a mirror image of QPR. Quite frankly i admire Pearson for sticking with the team that got us promoted and giving them a chance to play in the premier league rather than selling them out and splashing cash on big charlies who wouldnt have guaranteed survival anyway. Pearson took a risk sticking with the team and i for one think it was a risk worth taking. I bet fans agreed to stick with the team before the season started. Hindsight is a wonderful thing (i find myself saying that alot recently). I still think the squad is capable of survival. Were still well in the fight for survival. Instead of calling for heads lets just get behind the team and manager.
Jon25747 Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 I've been told otherwise. He's been gotten rid of as someone had to be held accountable for our poor season. Even if this isn't the whole truth, please explain why Pearson hasn't improved our defence which looked ordinary at times in the championship last season. There's been money there all along. He honestly thought our squad that got us up was good enough and it's clearly not been. Danny Simpson and Robert Huth? Several hundred premier league appearences between them.
Ric Flair Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 Danny Simpson and Robert Huth? Several hundred premier league appearences between them. Huth has signed today. Why wasn't our defence completely re-enforced in the summer? We got Upson on a free and Simpson late in August. Nigel seemed confident we'd be ok at the back and we've struggled. Likewise he looked at our central midfield and thought it was going to be enough. Cambiasso went to the wire and you could tell he only wanted one midfielder as McArthur was binned off, yet we've been appalling in the centre for several months now. He's focused most of his energies on purchasing strikers and trying to show horn as many of them in to a starting XI as he can. Picking a horribly out of form and shot of confidence Vardy to play on the wing instead of Albrighton or Knockaert who both have looked up for the fight of late is an absolute farce. He's showing signs of being clueless and I can't idly continue to back him because of what he's done here previously.
Jon25747 Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 Huth has signed today. Why wasn't our defence completely re-enforced in the summer? We got Upson on a free and Simpson late in August. Nigel seemed confident we'd be ok at the back and we've struggled. Likewise he looked at our central midfield and thought it was going to be enough. Cambiasso went to the wire and you could tell he only wanted one midfielder as McArthur was binned off, yet we've been appalling in the centre for several months now. He's focused most of his energies on purchasing strikers and trying to show horn as many of them in to a starting XI as he can. Picking a horribly out of form and shot of confidence Vardy to play on the wing instead of Albrighton or Knockaert who both have looked up for the fight of late is an absolute farce. He's showing signs of being clueless and I can't idly continue to back him because of what he's done here previously. I think most people agree about Vardy on the wing, I dont excuse that but our defence was the 3rd best in the champ last year with people raving about Wes (did he win any awards? player of the year etc?). I dont agree that Pearson should have "completely reinforced" the defence in the summer because, much like most of the fans, Pearson didnt think it was needed. Its so easy to say with hindsight that it should have been improved and the only part that did potentially need back up in the summer (knowing what we knew at the time) was at left back.
Kitchandro Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 I cannot for the life of me fathom how we haven't bought a left back. 2 seasons ago it was clear we would need a new one eventually. Now we're playing De Laet, a natural right back previously not deemed good enough for the first team, at left back. In fairness though, the lack of transfer activity doesn't begin to explain Pearson's tactical errors. It's there where we have really failed and that's why we're adrift of squads we are no worse than.
Jon25747 Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 I cannot for the life of me fathom how we haven't bought a left back. 2 seasons ago it was clear we would need a new one eventually. Now we're playing De Laet, a natural right back previously not deemed good enough for the first team, at left back. In fairness though, the lack of transfer activity doesn't begin to explain Pearson's tactical errors. It's there where we have really failed and that's why we're adrift of squads we are no worse than. I honestly believe this team is good enough to stay up and think we can and will with Pearson in charge but it is infuriating when we play 4 centre midfielders or an out of form/not good enough striker out wide when we have a winger who looks like a potential game changer wasting on the bench irrelevant of the performances he turns out.
CosbehFox Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 I tell thee the shat is going hit the van at 11pm when our left-back options remain the same.
sylofox Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 I've been told otherwise. He's been gotten rid of as someone had to be held accountable for our poor season. Even if this isn't the whole truth, please explain why Pearson hasn't improved our defence which looked ordinary at times in the championship last season. There's been money there all along. He honestly thought our squad that got us up was good enough and it's clearly not been. So you really think it went like this? Top "Nige whats going on why did we not buy players in the summer as money was there to spend" Nige " Not my fault Terry Robinson would not spend it" Top "Terry you are sacked" Terry "But But! Top " No Fvcking But's Your out" It was more like if spending was anything to do with the sacking. Top "Nige whats going on why did we not buy players in the summer as money was there to spend" Nige " Not my fault Terry Robinson would not spend it" Top "Terry why did you not spend the money? Terry " I did not feel the players were worth the asking prices" Top "Terry it is your job to get them as cheap as possible not to judge who is worth it. Look at the fvcking mess we are in now 2 pts from how many games? Sorry Terry you have got to go you knew we had money to spend On Your Bike Chap"
NeilLCFC Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 Really want things to work with Pearson but based on his recent team selections and tactics I wonder it would have made any difference if we had signed the players we wanted in the summer! I don't think the fault lies solely with the players from last season, look at the results and performances in our first couple of games back in the PL. It all went downhill after Utd which is when Pearson started tinkering with the team! For the love of Christ please could someone explain why we would play a lone striker when 3-0 down at Old Trafford?!
shade Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 we don't create enough clear cut chances, end of discussion, goodbye.
NewburyFox Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 The problem isn't collectively our defending (though it's questionable at times) it's their lack of composure on the ball. They're their own worst enemy at times. None of them are particularly comfortable on the ball, but it doesn't help when they have midfielders who don't show for the ball, particularly no-confidence Drinkwater and give-and-go King. King has such high passing percentages because he plays the simple ball all the time, which is invariably back to the defence. It leaves the defence with no options, and it means that if the opposition presses the midfield at all, the CBs either they go back to the keeper, who hoofs it, or they hoof it themselves. When you only have two CMs and two fullbacks who aren't great technically (Konchesky particularly) then it cuts down the options for the CBs. I'm not sure how much better Huth is on the ball but if he doesn't have options then he too will go long. It's a systematic problem.
psychonaut Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 I like Nige but he cant be defended on this season thus far, 4 league wins from two thirds of the season is poor and everybody was laughing at Burnley and QPR preseason for various reasons but we are below them all. People blame refs, bad luck, ifs and buts etc., but in truth we fully deserve our position, having had a better Championship team and having some money to spend and more time than QPR to prepare we did very little, if we were looking at another team who had done this we would be taking the piss like anything out of them. Still hoping things can turn around but deep down, it is getting to that point when you know it is all over and it is just about pride not wanting to be bottom at the end of the season. The lid was placed on the coffin with the loss against Stoke for me. The most disheartening result of the season. Seems like Nigel is handing out the nails now too.
the-blue-wildabeast Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 He's never blamed Robinson as far as I am aware. The aim this season was 17th just over half way and we are 3 points from 17th with a favourable run home. Some people need to get a grip of reality. Do you have any official evidence the aim was 17th or have you just made that up to defend the manager?
Babylon Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 I like Nige but he cant be defended on this season thus far, 4 league wins from two thirds of the season is poor It's actually fairly normal around this end of the table (I'm talking bottom 6 teams, which is where any sane person expected us to be).
Donut Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 So you really think it went like this? Top "Nige whats going on why did we not buy players in the summer as money was there to spend" Nige " Not my fault Terry Robinson would not spend it" Top "Terry you are sacked" Terry "But But! Top " No Fvcking But's Your out" It was more like if spending was anything to do with the sacking. Top "Nige whats going on why did we not buy players in the summer as money was there to spend" Nige " Not my fault Terry Robinson would not spend it" Top "Terry why did you not spend the money? Terry " I did not feel the players were worth the asking prices" Top "Terry it is your job to get them as cheap as possible not to judge who is worth it. Look at the fvcking mess we are in now 2 pts from how many games? Sorry Terry you have got to go you knew we had money to spend On Your Bike Chap" How do you know Pearson's targets werent just unrealistic? Or that AT THE TOP LEVEL, top level players dont want to come and play for him? No disrespect but your scenarios are both crap. Robinson has carried the can but its a bit ridiculous to say its his FAULT, they were working together.
Dan Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 None of them are particularly comfortable on the ball, but it doesn't help when they have midfielders who don't show for the ball, particularly no-confidence Drinkwater and give-and-go King. King has such high passing percentages because he plays the simple ball all the time, which is invariably back to the defence. It leaves the defence with no options, and it means that if the opposition presses the midfield at all, the CBs either they go back to the keeper, who hoofs it, or they hoof it themselves. When you only have two CMs and two fullbacks who aren't great technically (Konchesky particularly) then it cuts down the options for the CBs. I'm not sure how much better Huth is on the ball but if he doesn't have options then he too will go long. It's a systematic problem. I agree with that fully. Drinkwater & King is a suicidal partnership at this level. Having just a partnership in the first place is a problem but those two? Bloody hell. Those two as a pairing didn't work even in the Championship let alone at Old Trafford. One win at Spurs doesn't change my mind either, Spurs were shite. The sad thing on Saturday was until their first, Man Utd didn't really look particularly threatening, they were having a go but not really getting anywhere. Our defence was doing pretty well I thought. Done by one offside goal and everything fell apart. It was an imbalanced, poorly thought out team. I have defended Pearson a lot but this season he's done a lot of things that I just simply don't have answers for. He's assembled a squad that are capable of survival (and that's despite the weakness at left back) in my opinion but seems clueless as to how to get the best out of it.
Guest Cujek Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 My patience with the man has ran out. This season has been a joke. Money was there all along and he's tried to blame Terry Robinson but the likelihood is he's been far too loyal to the players who got him up and we've paid the price. The gamble backfired, our confidence and winning mentality was lost and it's probably never to return under this tenure. He's had a mare this season. Prat Money is there yes, are the players that want to join though? would you prefer Peter Taylor's (cvnt) or Sven's recruitment policy? Any special case can go out and sign players on stupid wages. this is how we end up with the likes of Denis Wise and Martin Keown. Signing quality players for first of all the right price and second of all on the right wages is not easy, they all want to play for Chelsea or just end up at QPR on 70k a week. Pearson also has very little to do with the actual signing of players and nothing at all to do with contract negotiations, players and agents also change their mind every 5 mins, they think they may have signed someone, only to have the agent phone up again and demand (silly example) 3000 green M&M'S in a shoe box. You also not only have to deal with the agent and the player,who may have a wife that dont want to live in Leicester (a la Beckham), they may have children who are settled at a school, you may also have to deal the players dad/uncle/friend, who ever else he confides in. Signing a player is not as straightforward in real life.
the-blue-wildabeast Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 I'm not sure how anyone can argue against what you've been told as you do have inside information, the rest of us are none the wiser. I don't agree it's been embarrassing or as pathetic as many make it, quite frankly it's what I'd expect. The only real surprise for me this season is Burnley who have, with their squad, over achieved already. At the end of the day we haven't humiliated ourselves, we've been competitive and we're still firmly in with a chance of survival, especially with how the likes of Hull and Villa are imploding (now supporting them must be hard, especially with the base they have in place). If we go down so be it, we'll have a squad and manager who know the division well and are capable of getting us back up. I don't think Burnley have over achieved at all, they are having a go as you would expect, but our under performance has kept them higher than expected. How you can really claim we have been competitive when we have a paltry 4 wins is beyond me. People mistake not getting tonked with competitive. We weren't competitive against utd, stoke, Southampton, Newcastle, Swansea etc, we played to not lose too heavily.
fuchsntf Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 My patience with the man has ran out. This season has been a joke. Money was there all along and he's tried to blame Terry Robinson but the likelihood is he's been far too loyal to the players who got him up and we've paid the price. The gamble backfired, our confidence and winning mentality was lost and it's probably never to return under this tenure. He's had a mare this season. Prat Conspiracies, vendetta stories single opinions made up, to try and prove your own point to sell a story as fact. You should be a jounalist.
Clever Fox Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 He was right to give the lads a chance from last season. Here's what I can't understand. 1. He didn't know his best team from the start of the season. 2. His plan seemed to be to impose our game on other teams. When that didn't work no plan B in place. 3. Transfer activity poor in Summer despite saying he wanted out targets in early. 4. Clear refusal to play natural wingers on the wings which would help us get behind defenders and supply our forwards. despite having 5 at the club. 6. Failed to act decisively when it's been clear that DD and King are struggling at the moment. 7. Made no improvements with Tactics or free Kicks, Corners. Both attacking or defending. 8. Failure to sign a creative midfielder knowing by now the others are struggling. 9. Not signing another LB to replace PK who is aging. 10. Failure to simply help the players to simply kick the ball better thereby improving our pass rate in turn possession and success. 11. I also worry his laid back attitude is transferring to the players which is not a good sign. Do I think he's a good manager, Yes definitely which is why I cannot understand his approach or lack of to these errors. Are Burnley doing better which seems who we measure ourselves by. Yes, because they signed the players to improve the area's that needed improving. I'm urging Nigel to get on top and make things happen. It's what we all want.
Donut Posted 2 February 2015 Posted 2 February 2015 There should have never been a scenario this season where Hammond, Wasilewski, Konchesky, Vardy were making regular first team appearances this season. Regardless of how theyve done when theyve played, theyve had to play far more of a part than planned, im sure.
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