Freeman's Wharfer Posted 22 March 2015 Posted 22 March 2015 With Scmeichel, balls flash across the face of his goal an awful lot. He's an extraordinary shot-stopper but for commanding his area and dealing with stuff coming across him he is exposed. Hammer did well during his spell and was assured but his kicking is atrocious (particularly the last game he played). You just can't be a keeper at this level without decent kicking - must improve. Schwarzer looks every year of his age. Made a couple of decent stops but hasn't the strength to reach the halfway line with his kicks or the agileness and flexibility to be as good as he once was. Worst of the three for me. All in all they all have their downsides and I wouldn't be surprised if none are here next season.
smudger63 Posted 22 March 2015 Posted 22 March 2015 If we are going on who has performed the best out of the three of them in the games they have played this season, then for me Hamer deserves to be the keeper, but it makes no difference what we think, because there is no way Hamer is going to get anywhere near the first team squad now, unless their is an injury to one of the other keepers.
foxinsocks Posted 22 March 2015 Posted 22 March 2015 Hamer is the best and the future. He got dropped coz of poor ball distribution. I am not a gk coach but surely there are rules to sort thus out.
Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 22 March 2015 Posted 22 March 2015 I have to stand up for Kasper here. Some of the comments in this thread are shocking. He has been and is a good keeper for us. Even yesterday, he pulled off some decent saves (spurs fourth was him coming out making himself big and saving a one on one after Schlupp let his man go). In addition, something he has that the other two don't have is distribution! He has been out for a long time and will have had some shady moments but match fitness does not grow on trees. How many of our players will take the wrath of our fans before we actually admit one is decent.
Rob1742 Posted 22 March 2015 Posted 22 March 2015 Next season should be Hamer Smith Schwarzer (coach) Kasper sold
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 22 March 2015 Posted 22 March 2015 Schmeichel isn't even the best goalkeeper in his family, let alone the club. Next season should be Hamer Smith Schwarzer (coach) Kasper sold Wouldn't be that fussed if Kasper went. He's been good for us but not faultless. Hamer was desperately unlucky to be dropped. Schwarzer has another year on his contract after this. Heard some good things about Smith, hope he continues to improve.
NewburyFox Posted 22 March 2015 Posted 22 March 2015 No, the wall split. Criminal defending. Leicester v Tottenham - Eriksen free kick; https://www.youtube.com/embed/34D0-CKrgAA Nugent and Mahrez jump out of the way, they don't simply just jump up to get in the way of the ball, they literally jump out of the way. Ok, maybe Hamer's positioning isn't brilliant for it but he isn't miles away. But if you're gonna moan about Hamer's positioning and claim he 'cost us' in that game, what about Schmeichel's against Burnley, he may aswell have been stood on the corner flag, or got a sign out with an arrow pointing saying 'Put it here, in this big space i'm not covering'. Leicester v Burnley - Wallace free kick; https://www.youtube.com/embed/hvmpt3_ZtLk As for his kicking, I honestly don't think Schmeichel's is alot better, it was my one criticism of him last year, i've said many times he is a quality Championship keeper but that is his level (that goes for many of our players) but I had a real issue with his kicking last season. They don't jump out of the way. Nuge is expecting a cross and has jumped towards where he's expecting the ball to go, and Eriksen has been clever, anticipated the split and gone for the near post. In hindsight of course they should've stayed together, but you're trying to paint Nugent as a coward who's tried to get out of the way to avoid getting hurt, which is complete rubbish.
Dan Posted 22 March 2015 Posted 22 March 2015 Next season should be Hamer Smith Schwarzer (coach) Kasper sold They should be Fulham's two keepers
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 23 March 2015 Posted 23 March 2015 They should be Fulham's two keepers Took me a couple of seconds to get it but very good
RedSoxUK Posted 23 March 2015 Posted 23 March 2015 But if you're gonna moan about Hamer's positioning and claim he 'cost us' in that game, what about Schmeichel's against Burnley, he may aswell have been stood on the corner flag, or got a sign out with an arrow pointing saying 'Put it here, in this big space i'm not covering'. Leicester v Burnley - Wallace free kick; https://www.youtube.com/embed/hvmpt3_ZtLk As for his kicking, I honestly don't think Schmeichel's is alot better, it was my one criticism of him last year, i've said many times he is a quality Championship keeper but that is his level (that goes for many of our players) but I had a real issue with his kicking last season. Agree with this, Kasper's positioning for that free-kick is beyond stupidity. The fact he has to take two/three steps before even diving shows how poorly positioned he was. And the first Tottenham goal has to come down to Kasper, very poor goalkeeping / positioning / commanding in general. Either Upson should have called for it as he had a free header, or Kasper realised nobody was attacking the front post and letting it fall to you know, his defender at the front. Kasper was a let down vs Spurs especially after Schwarzer actually had a good game and kept a clean sheet the game before, and did well vs Man City. I think this is where Mike Stowell has to intervene and assess the current goalkeepers at the club. We unfortunately have three very average Championship level goalkeepers who all seem to excel at different things.
Merging Cultures Posted 23 March 2015 Posted 23 March 2015 In my opinion, for the first goal, it looks like Kasper is rooted to the ground. He does that jump, but don't really move thing. The ball is not that far away, and if he had actually moved, he could have caught it with two hands. Other than that no one can really complain about him for the other goals. I'd still prefer Hamer.
HoustonFox Posted 23 March 2015 Posted 23 March 2015 Kasper getting picked again, especially after Schwarzer's last couple of performances is bizarre to say the least. I watched him in the U21 game and he didn't seem anything special (never has been really) and I'm not sure what he's done to warrant a place back in the side. When I've seen Hamer he's seemed to (as others have said) to organize and calm the defence and I honestly can't see the first or fourth goals being conceded by Schwarzer or Hamer, especially Schwarz, who has been excellent in 1:1 situations. Kasper literally taking it off Upson's head in a panic station flap led to the chance falling to Kane (who still had to make a good finish).
fox_favourite Posted 23 March 2015 Posted 23 March 2015 There seems to be an odd culture within Leics fans this season which I don't really understand. This is relevant across the team: I see the same comments, such as: "why isn't (insert player name) playing?? He would have been loads better!) Example is that people were moaning like hell in Hamer's last match about his kicking and I'm sure a lot said: "bloody wish kasper was back" but when Kasper is back "Hamer is the better keeper". Its the same for Albrighton. There seems to be a theory that if Albrighton was playing, we would have won us all the matches. Yet if je had a bad game, there would be cries of "drop him, he's not good". It just really annoys me. How on earth do we know if Hamer would have been better?! What if his distribution cost us a goal etc... I think that the problem we've got is that all 3 are of similar ability with none of them as a stand out number 1. As a manager, you do have to have pick a regular number 1 and stick with him. In Pearson case, I think that's Kapser.
............... Posted 23 March 2015 Posted 23 March 2015 Anyone blaming schmeichel for the fourth goal is extremely blinkered.
Bettsj2 Posted 23 March 2015 Posted 23 March 2015 There seems to be an odd culture within Leics fans this season which I don't really understand. This is relevant across the team: I see the same comments, such as: "why isn't (insert player name) playing?? He would have been loads better!) Example is that people were moaning like hell in Hamer's last match about his kicking and I'm sure a lot said: "bloody wish kasper was back" but when Kasper is back "Hamer is the better keeper". Its the same for Albrighton. There seems to be a theory that if Albrighton was playing, we would have won us all the matches. Yet if je had a bad game, there would be cries of "drop him, he's not good". It just really annoys me. How on earth do we know if Hamer would have been better?! What if his distribution cost us a goal etc... I think that the problem we've got is that all 3 are of similar ability with none of them as a stand out number 1. As a manager, you do have to have pick a regular number 1 and stick with him. In Pearson case, I think that's Kapser. I dont think anybody has said that if Albrighton was in the team we'd have won all the games. That's just pro-Pearson rhetoric. All people are saying is, when Albrighton has come on as sub or started a game, he has performed at a level to have deserved to retain his place and the same can be said about Ben Hamer. Instead, after positive contributions, they are dropped to the bench and in the case of Albrighton, altogether from the squad.
Babylon Posted 23 March 2015 Posted 23 March 2015 What's Hamer done to deserve all the love? Can't kick & has made errors himself. Come up against Hull and Stoke who couldn't kick the ball between the sticks (sometimes from two yards out) and against Villa who couldn't even muster an attack. It's almost like he gets the praise for the opposition being utter shit in those games. The bloke was competent, other than a few bits a bobs he mostly did what was asked of him. But as we saw preseason he is more than capable of making awful errors just like the others. Whilst perhaps harsh to drop him when he hadn't done much wrong. If the bloke is making clangers in training and he's not trusted the management are probably right to make the change... that's something none of us will know.
Babylon Posted 23 March 2015 Posted 23 March 2015 I dont think anybody has said that if Albrighton was in the team we'd have won all the games. That's just pro-Pearson rhetoric. All people are saying is, when Albrighton has come on as sub or started a game, he has performed at a level to have deserved to retain his place and the same can be said about Ben Hamer. Instead, after positive contributions, they are dropped to the bench and in the case of Albrighton, altogether from the squad. I would say there is probably more to the Albrighton thing than any of us know, I can understand peoples frustrations as he contributed well for a spell. But we've seen this kind of thing before with Danns, Mills, SSL and Beckford etc. After they were all gone Pearson was pretty open about why he got rid of certain players and if I was a betting man I would say we probably have a similar issue here. Especially with the comments coming from his Mrs and much earlier in the season there was an article from him where he talked about knocking on the door of the manager time and time again about playing. Pearson has always been open about wanting players to be team players, about backing the others even if they aren't in the team etc and obviously puts huge emphasis on work ethic for the team and squad unity. People who vanish, we tend to find out after were not that sort of player. We'll probably never know, but that would be my guess... obviously I could be wrong.
The Doctor Posted 23 March 2015 Posted 23 March 2015 Kasper getting picked again, especially after Schwarzer's last couple of performances is bizarre to say the least. I watched him in the U21 game and he didn't seem anything special (never has been really) and I'm not sure what he's done to warrant a place back in the side. When I've seen Hamer he's seemed to (as others have said) to organize and calm the defence and I honestly can't see the first or fourth goals being conceded by Schwarzer or Hamer, especially Schwarz, who has been excellent in 1:1 situations. Kasper literally taking it off Upson's head in a panic station flap led to the chance falling to Kane (who still had to make a good finish). How are they going to have stopped the fourth? Turn schlupp into a ghost so the save doesn't rebound off him? As for the first - did upson give him a shout, if not letting the cross go is suicidal
Ollie93 Posted 23 March 2015 Posted 23 March 2015 You can't blame Kasper for the goals conceeded, personally I think the first one was Upson's fault, he lost Kane and didn't put a head to the ball. As for the fourth, if anyone thinks that was Kaspers fault they are deluded.
HoustonFox Posted 23 March 2015 Posted 23 March 2015 How are they going to have stopped the fourth? Turn schlupp into a ghost so the save doesn't rebound off him? As for the first - did upson give him a shout, if not letting the cross go is suicidalIt's not like Kasper hasn't got previous. How many times have we seen him flap at stuff at the last second, especially crosses. Just look at the behavior of the defenders whenever he plays compared to the other two keepers. They don't seem to know if he is collecting the ball or not half the time. This was clearly the case for the first. Watch the goal again and then look at Upson's body language, the first thing he does after the goal is look down at Kasper...
kingfox Posted 23 March 2015 Posted 23 March 2015 Come up against Hull and Stoke who couldn't kick the ball between the sticks (sometimes from two yards out) and against Villa who couldn't even muster an attack. It's almost like he gets the praise for the opposition being utter shit in those games. The bloke was competent, other than a few bits a bobs he mostly did what was asked of him. But as we saw preseason he is more than capable of making awful errors just like the others. Whilst perhaps harsh to drop him when he hadn't done much wrong. If the bloke is making clangers in training and he's not trusted the management are probably right to make the change... that's something none of us will know. Is that you kind of agreeing with me Babs? The thing that gets me is, why do fans want to see a keeper who can't kick properly between our sticks? One dodgy kick to an opposition player who then scores, then more than likely fans will change their opinions and get on his back.
shen Posted 23 March 2015 Posted 23 March 2015 Hamer > Schwarzer > Schmeichel Schmeichel is one of our most overrated players ever. I wouldn't even say he was average. Still... shouting, pointing and kissing the badge is all it takes to rouse the rabble Hamer best by a mile, he's not great... But easily best of those 3 Hes Pearson's 3rd choice though You clearly have something personal against this man. He's not been anywhere near as bad as you are making out, although we can agree the previous seasons have been better (probably because the opposition has been inferior). Many have voiced their opinion on how they think he should've done better for the first and blamed his positioning for any of the other three (wut?). I don't think I have seen anyone mention the frankly brilliant save where he tipped Eriksen's shot onto the post in this thread... I wonder why...
Guest MattP Posted 24 March 2015 Posted 24 March 2015 Baffled with the inclusion of Kasper - knew as soon as he came in we'd have head in hands as soon as they tossed a ball into the box. Schwarzer had been solid for the previous two games as well. You really have to wonder about thought process if he starts against Allardyces' West Ham.
weller54 Posted 24 March 2015 Author Posted 24 March 2015 Baffled with the inclusion of Kasper - knew as soon as he came in we'd have head in hands as soon as they tossed a ball into the box. Schwarzer had been solid for the previous two games as well. You really have to wonder about thought process if he starts against Allardyces' West Ham. Which he WILL!!!
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