Alf Bentley Posted 7 May 2015 Posted 7 May 2015 A bit of an emotional moment for me just now - only just after I'd posted about the importance of the democratic process, too. I've mentioned in another thread how my Dad is now on the wane and a cause for concern (90, Parkinson's, physically unstable, mild dementia). Well, my brother had arranged to go to his flat this afternoon. On arrival, the place was locked and there was no sign of my Dad, which was a bit worrying. But, while he was on the line, my Dad came shuffling back in. Turns out the old lad had walked across Muswell Hill to vote (probably only 200m, but that's further than he's walked for several months and the round trip will probably have taken him an hour). Hope that shames any fvcker who can't be bothered to vote today (not ballot spoilers - all in favour of that, if you disapprove of all the candidates/parties). My Dad's constituency (Hornsey & Wood Green) is a Lib Dem/Labour marginal, so if the result is close later, it'll be even more emotional, as he probably won't be exercising his democratic rights again. He'll have intended to vote Labour, so I hope he managed to put his cross in the right box and didn't mistakenly vote UKIP. He probably will have managed it, to be fair.
Harry - LCFC Posted 7 May 2015 Posted 7 May 2015 Bluesbrothers' Election Prediction 2015: Warning - NSFL (Not Safe For LibLabCon) That's definitely my favourite spoof video from this election! "Jerusalem: Built Waves: Ruled Queen: Saved" Magnificent
ChrisFilter Posted 7 May 2015 Posted 7 May 2015 Labour. There's no economic reason for voting Tory, they've been worse than Labour at every fiscal element of government and far, far worse on an ethical level. The only people voting Tory are the privileged trying to maintain their privilege. I find that pretty abhorrent. This whole 'Labour got us in a mess and the Tories fixed it' thing is entirely unsubstantiated nonsense. You'll be hard pushed to find an economist who backs it up and loads queuing up to disprove it. Austerity is just an exercise in class war. It's disgusting. Tax avoidance reduction is far more important.
Webbo Posted 7 May 2015 Author Posted 7 May 2015 Labour. There's no economic reason for voting Tory, they've been worse than Labour at every fiscal element of government and far, far worse on an ethical level. The only people voting Tory are the privileged trying to maintain their privilege. I find that pretty abhorrent. This whole 'Labour got us in a mess and the Tories fixed it' thing is entirely unsubstantiated nonsense. You'll be hard pushed to find an economist who backs it up and loads queuing up to disprove it. Austerity is just an exercise in class war. It's disgusting. Tax avoidance reduction is far more important. The Tories have been better at that as well. Good crowd at the polling station. Looks like a big turnout.
Nod.E Posted 7 May 2015 Posted 7 May 2015 Labour. There's no economic reason for voting Tory, they've been worse than Labour at every fiscal element of government and far, far worse on an ethical level. The only people voting Tory are the privileged trying to maintain their privilege. I find that pretty abhorrent. This whole 'Labour got us in a mess and the Tories fixed it' thing is entirely unsubstantiated nonsense. You'll be hard pushed to find an economist who backs it up and loads queuing up to disprove it. Austerity is just an exercise in class war. It's disgusting. Tax avoidance reduction is far more important. Yeah pretty much this. I thought I would vote conservatives this election but after grasping the above online from well informed economists I have chosen to change my mind and vote Labour. I live in a conservative stronghold though so it was probably a waste of time
ChrisFilter Posted 7 May 2015 Posted 7 May 2015 Yeah, I live in one of the safest Tory seats in the country so my vote means nothing. One of the arguments for proportional representation, although there are plenty of arguments against.
Stevosevic Posted 7 May 2015 Posted 7 May 2015 Only the privileged vote Tory? Well they will receive more votes than any other party today so i'm not sure how they only appeal to the privileged....If they only appealed to the privileged they would receive 1-5% of the votes.
ChrisFilter Posted 7 May 2015 Posted 7 May 2015 Only the privileged vote Tory? Well they will receive more votes than any other party today so i'm not sure how they only appeal to the privileged....If they only appealed to the privileged they would receive 1-5% of the votes. Depends how you define privilege.
Strokes Posted 7 May 2015 Posted 7 May 2015 The Tories have been better at that as well. Good crowd at the polling station. Looks like a big turnout. Yeah I noticed that, quite a few rosette's on display too.
Webbo Posted 7 May 2015 Author Posted 7 May 2015 Depends how you define privilege. Anyone who doesn't vote labour?
Webbo Posted 7 May 2015 Author Posted 7 May 2015 Who would gain from high turnout? I think it shows how close it is and people want to make sure that the party they dislike doesn't get in. Not sure it favours either side.
Benguin Posted 7 May 2015 Posted 7 May 2015 Labour. There's no economic reason for voting Tory, they've been worse than Labour at every fiscal element of government and far, far worse on an ethical level. The only people voting Tory are the privileged trying to maintain their privilege. I find that pretty abhorrent. This whole 'Labour got us in a mess and the Tories fixed it' thing is entirely unsubstantiated nonsense. You'll be hard pushed to find an economist who backs it up and loads queuing up to disprove it. Austerity is just an exercise in class war. It's disgusting. Tax avoidance reduction is far more important. Agree to some extent with this. All though I'd get stick from my family if I told them who I voted (They're all conservative.) The Tories have been better at that as well. Good crowd at the polling station. Looks like a big turnout. Gotta back up your claims.
ChrisFilter Posted 7 May 2015 Posted 7 May 2015 Anyone who doesn't vote labour? No. I'm very privileged and I'm voting Labour.
Captain... Posted 7 May 2015 Posted 7 May 2015 Only the privileged vote Tory? Well they will receive more votes than any other party today so i'm not sure how they only appeal to the privileged....If they only appealed to the privileged they would receive 1-5% of the votes. Depends on your definition of privilege, 10 million people voted for the Tories in the last election, which is 15% of the population, the top 15% could be classed as privileged. Obviously it isn't as simple as that but I wouldn't be surprised if the net worth of the 10 million who voted Tory is significantly greater than that of the 54 million that didn't, (I'm aware that that figure includes children).
Alf Bentley Posted 7 May 2015 Posted 7 May 2015 I think it shows how close it is and people want to make sure that the party they dislike doesn't get in. Not sure it favours either side. In the past, they always reckoned a high turnout favoured Labour, but the opposite was the case in 1992. There was a very high turnout in 1992, when Major's Tories won - probably, as you say, because people realised it was going to a very close result.
ChrisFilter Posted 7 May 2015 Posted 7 May 2015 In fairness, I was being glib. Plenty of people vote Tory because it's how they were brought up or because they believe what they read in the right-wing press. But underlying it all is the haves not wanting to share with the have-nots. The original 'equality of opportunity' Tory ethos was lost long, long ago.
Stevosevic Posted 7 May 2015 Posted 7 May 2015 Depends on your definition of privilege, 10 million people voted for the Tories in the last election, which is 15% of the population, the top 15% could be classed as privileged. Obviously it isn't as simple as that but I wouldn't be surprised if the net worth of the 10 million who voted Tory is significantly greater than that of the 54 million that didn't, (I'm aware that that figure includes children). If they received votes from 15% of the population, and won, the other 85% who are supposedly against Tories need to have a serious word with themselves for not voting. My point being is that they only appeal to the privileged, then they should never win an election on that basis, but they do and again will receive more votes tonight (obviously that may not equate to more seats)
Grewks Posted 7 May 2015 Posted 7 May 2015 Voted Tories. The real 'Working mans' party. Don't want another labour government paying people to sit on their arse all day.
pSinatra Posted 7 May 2015 Posted 7 May 2015 Voted Labour There were two ballot papers, one for the general election & another for a local election (of which I knew nothing about). It said that I could not vote more than twice on the local council ballot. What's that about? How does that work? Of the four candidates, two were Labour & two were Conservative. Seeing as I knew absolutely nothing about it & knew nothing of what each candidate stood for, I didn't vote.
Strokes Posted 7 May 2015 Posted 7 May 2015 In fairness, I was being glib. Plenty of people vote Tory because it's how they were brought up or because they believe what they read in the right-wing press. But underlying it all is the haves not wanting to share with the have-nots. The original 'equality of opportunity' Tory ethos was lost long, long ago. Oh if only all us working class Tory voters were as well educated as your fine self, if only I could see the deception.
Webbo Posted 7 May 2015 Author Posted 7 May 2015 No. I'm very privileged and I'm voting Labour. Well I'm not and I'm voting tory so your theory doesn't really stack up.
Webbo Posted 7 May 2015 Author Posted 7 May 2015 In fairness, I was being glib. Plenty of people vote Tory because it's how they were brought up or because they believe what they read in the right-wing press. Such conceit.
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