RowlattsFox Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I'll name a few Bielsi, Gallardo & Gourvenecc. What will Ranieri's ambition be with Leicester? What will make him jump out of bed in the morning? I see a man who has been there and bought the tee shirt at far bigger clubs than Leicester and hasn't over performed at any of them. I wanted someone who will live and breathe the club and be hugely ambitious and driven. And what's with the three year contract, it should have been two. Were they interested though? The only people we know we're interested were ranieri and Lennon.
dylanlegend Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 in his last club job with Monaco, only lost 9 games out of 75. Don't care who you are or what club you are at, that's impressive. French football... Billionaire owners... Signing Falcao, Moutinho, James Rodriguez, Carvalho- surprised he lost 9 to be honest. I could have got Monaco 2nd with that team and spending power
EnderbyFox Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I will support this new guy, but I hope Nigel fails throughout his career. I don't expect a premier league club to touch him anyway. But where he is employed next will speak volumes of what others thought of his work this season. It's amazing how bitter you can be towards a man that brought us nothing but success
Donut Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 French football... Billionaire owners... Signing Falcao, Moutinho, James Rodriguez, Carvalho- surprised he lost 9 to be honest. I could have got Monaco 2nd with that team and spending power So of course, managing the worlds top players is dead easy. For sure. Finishing 2nd was a given too. Dont bother replying to me, i dont want an argument because your posts are silly.
The Doctor Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I'll name a few Bielsi, Gallardo & Gourvenecc. What will Ranieri's ambition be with Leicester? What will make him jump out of bed in the morning? I see a man who has been there and bought the tee shirt at far bigger clubs than Leicester and hasn't over performed at any of them. I wanted someone who will live and breathe the club and be hugely ambitious and driven. And what's with the three year contract, it should have been two. You really reckon 100% of fans would be behind three managers that most have never heard of?
whoareyaaa Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I still don't see the obvious reason behind sacking Pearson as I think given time he could have easily established us in the top 10, However I can see why the owners decided to get rid in the end after all the incidents and image of there company/club being tarnished slightly with the events in Thailand. But I think they have made a good call here with Ranieri and think he will be able to get the job done quicker than the time it would have took Pearson even if its only short-term, he will be able to attract much better targets than Pearson could ever have and I think he will push the club forward like the owners are hoping for. All in all after the disappointment of Pearson being sacked I am now looking forward to the new season! just need Camby to sign up now!!!
jayfox26 Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I'll name a few Bielsi, Gallardo & Gourvenecc. What will Ranieri's ambition be with Leicester? What will make him jump out of bed in the morning? I see a man who has been there and bought the tee shirt at far bigger clubs than Leicester and hasn't over performed at any of them. I wanted someone who will live and breathe the club and be hugely ambitious and driven. And what's with the three year contract, it should have been two. I think his ambition will be that he doesn't want to be remembered for his so called failings at his previous clubs. He would much rather be remembered for pushing Leicester to the next level and leaving us in a strong position both in terms of stature, playing staff and league position. And 3 years shows that the owners have faith in him and he also has faith in the club/the owners and feels he can make a real difference. It could be his last job in football, so he certainly won't want to do badly. He'll be motivated to end his career on a high!
poggypogpog Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Welcome CR. The owners have our best interests at heart. Fingers crossed that they have picked a good 'un.
jayfox26 Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 French football... Billionaire owners... Signing Falcao, Moutinho, James Rodriguez, Carvalho- surprised he lost 9 to be honest. I could have got Monaco 2nd with that team and spending power PSG have always been one step ahead of Monaco. Yes Monaco could probably match then financially but PSG have always been able to attract the best players. He did make some very good signings but Monaco finishing 2nd is only like City finishing 2nd to Chelsea. Regardless of how much money you have and what players you have, only one team can win the league!
ImBlue Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I'll name a few Bielsi, Gallardo & Gourvenecc. What will Ranieri's ambition be with Leicester? What will make him jump out of bed in the morning? I see a man who has been there and bought the tee shirt at far bigger clubs than Leicester and hasn't over performed at any of them. I wanted someone who will live and breathe the club and be hugely ambitious and driven. And what's with the three year contract, it should have been two. How many times does his has to be said to the stupid people on here. He won ligue 2, and came second the following season in ligue 1, only behind PSG. That was in his last club manager position. Please inform me what he could have done other than gone from being a promoted side, to winning the league, in less than a year? Christ.
Big_Nige Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Didn't he sell us Dennis Wise while he was at Chelsea. Instant dislike. In all seriousness I have no idea how I'm feeling about it. Multitude of conflicting emotions. On one hand i'm quite excited, he plays good football and has, in general, a good record in some of the top leagues in Europe. I can't stop the alarm bells from ringing in my head though. While the situation we find ourselves in as a club is very different it is exactly how I felt when we appointed Sven. I don't buy the best candidate out there argument though, I'd love to know if he was on a shortlist before his come and get me plea. We don't know what has happened behind the scenes, but from the my perspective it does appear we didn't have any kind of long term strategy when looking for a new manager. Did we look for a manager who would move forward the work and foundations already in place. Or do we not have a club ethos and are happy to reinvent ourselves with every new appointment? The way I see it Nigel has built the house, the new manager has to decorate it. I worry Ranieri will take the wreakingball approach like Peter Taylor did all those years ago. I'm probably still pining for Pearson and I'll get behind Ranieri 100%, but I'm just apprehensive, and for any Leicester fan my age (32) I think that's a pretty fair emotion to feel. For every O'Neill there's a Taylor, for every Pearson there's a Sousa.
Robin JD Popley Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Absolutely delighted we have a manager of Claudio's calibre in charge of our club. He will transform us into a classy passing footballing team which is something I've been waiting for for such a long time whilst also not detracting from the core values which lead us to be where we are today. On top of this, he is a gentleman and has a lot of gravitas. Genuinely think this will be an incredible appointment by Vichai, Top and the rest of the board - let the good times roll - welcome Claudio!
BlueSi13 Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 We're not challenging for the league though so that's completely irrelevant. He's proven time and again that he's capable of extracting the maximum from his resources. Really? With the teams he's managed and the resources he's had at his disposable during those times you would have expected him to have at least won a league title somewhere? Sven has won the Swedish Allsvenskan, Portuguese Primeira Liga and Italian Serie A (as well as the UEFA Cup, Coppa Italia etc etc etc). Didn't stop him falling way short here.
Babylon Posted 13 July 2015 Author Posted 13 July 2015 God doesn't exist, so you are more likely to know than a mythical being. And if you cannot come up with a single name that in YOUR opinion would be better, how can you say he wasn't the best available? The world of managers at the top is quite small, hence when a manager is sacked there is a 'merry-go-round' effect. I doubt there were many managers that was a better option than ranieri that weren't given odds. Look, I know you're not feeble minded. I have seen a few of your posts and you are mildly coherent. I suggest you go back and actually read my original post and the person I was quoting. The whole point I was making was that you cannot list 6 shit managers who have been linked and say "he was the best available", because there is a whole world of other managers out there other than a few people listed on the press or on here. It wasn't a case of Lennon, Cotterill, Preki or Ranieri. Yes, if you felt like guessing he's probably the best of that bunch, but you just can't say he's the best option available like there were only those choices, as there are more than just 6 managers.
Babylon Posted 13 July 2015 Author Posted 13 July 2015 Absolutely delighted we have a manager of Claudio's calibre in charge of our club. He will transform us into a classy passing footballing team which is something I've been waiting for for such a long time whilst also not detracting from the core values which lead us to be where we are today. On top of this, he is a gentleman and has a lot of gravitas. Genuinely think this will be an incredible appointment by Vichai, Top and the rest of the board - let the good times roll - welcome Claudio! Can I borrow your crystal ball please.
whoareyaaa Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Didn't he sell us Dennis Wise while he was at Chelsea. Instant dislike. In all seriousness I have no idea how I'm feeling about it. Multitude of conflicting emotions. On one hand i'm quite excited, he plays good football and has, in general, a good record in some of the top leagues in Europe. I can't stop the alarm bells from ringing in my head though. While the situation we find ourselves in as a club is very different it is exactly how I felt when we appointed Sven. I don't buy the best candidate out there argument though, I'd love to know if he was on a shortlist before his come and get me plea. We don't know what has happened behind the scenes, but from the my perspective it does appear we didn't have any kind of long term strategy when looking for a new manager. Did we look for a manager who would move forward the work and foundations already in place. Or do we not have a club ethos and are happy to reinvent ourselves with every new appointment? The way I see it Nigel has built the house, the new manager has to decorate it. I worry Ranieri will take the wreakingball approach like Peter Taylor did all those years ago. I'm probably still pining for Pearson and I'll get behind Ranieri 100%, but I'm just apprehensive, and for any Leicester fan my age (32) I think that's a pretty fair emotion to feel. For every O'Neill there's a Taylor, for every Pearson there's a Sousa. One thing is for sure we are going to go one way or the complete other, but if you want to succeed then you have to take risks.
jayfox26 Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Didn't he sell us Dennis Wise while he was at Chelsea. Instant dislike. In all seriousness I have no idea how I'm feeling about it. Multitude of conflicting emotions. On one hand i'm quite excited, he plays good football and has, in general, a good record in some of the top leagues in Europe. I can't stop the alarm bells from ringing in my head though. While the situation we find ourselves in as a club is very different it is exactly how I felt when we appointed Sven. I don't buy the best candidate out there argument though, I'd love to know if he was on a shortlist before his come and get me plea. We don't know what has happened behind the scenes, but from the my perspective it does appear we didn't have any kind of long term strategy when looking for a new manager. Did we look for a manager who would move forward the work and foundations already in place. Or do we not have a club ethos and are happy to reinvent ourselves with every new appointment? The way I see it Nigel has built the house, the new manager has to decorate it. I worry Ranieri will take the wreakingball approach like Peter Taylor did all those years ago. I'm probably still pining for Pearson and I'll get behind Ranieri 100%, but I'm just apprehensive, and for any Leicester fan my age (32) I think that's a pretty fair emotion to feel. For every O'Neill there's a Taylor, for every Pearson there's a Sousa. Fair comments and I also hope he doesn't completely dismantle everything Pearson did. I hope we keep a sensible transfer policy and only add 3 or 4 players and not go mad like Sven and sign Michael Ball and John Pantsil. Seriously though, I don't see this being like when Sven was here. Ranieri has a good record at this level, Sven had no idea about the championship!
Gerard Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 You really reckon 100% of fans would be behind three managers that most have never heard of? I'd never heard of Gourvenecc until a fortnight a go. I think most fans would accept someone they hadn't heard of if they analysed their CV's and were impressed. For me Ranieri is someone who has managed for decades and not over performed wherever he's been. He doesn't fit the profile of a manager who wants to build a dynasty either and I don't think he'll be as ambitious and hungry as a younger man.
Guest ttfn Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Really? With the teams he's managed and the resources he's had at his disposable during those times you would have expected him to have at least won a league title somewhere? Sven has won the Swedish Allsvenskan, Portuguese Primeira Liga and Italian Serie A (as well as the UEFA Cup, Coppa Italia etc etc etc). Didn't stop him falling way short here. Tell me where exactly he should have won the league.
ImBlue Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Look, I know you're not feeble minded. I have seen a few of your posts and you are mildly coherent. I suggest you go back and actually read my original post and the person I was quoting. The whole point I was making was that you cannot list 6 shit managers who have been linked and say "he was the best available", because there is a whole world of other managers out there other than a few people listed on the press or on here. It wasn't a case of Lennon, Cotterill, Preki or Ranieri. Yes, if you felt like guessing he's probably the best of that bunch, but you just can't say he's the best option available like there were only those choices, as there are more than just 6 managers. I'll take that as a compliment and agree to disagree. Until someone offers a credible alternative I'll go on believing we got the best we possibly could.
Mickyblueeyes Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 I do not care about Pearson sacking. I was disappointed at the time but it happens. Shit happens in football. What I'm furious about is this is not how you run a company. This is not how they would run there own personal companies outside of football. You don't have lets say a sales director who has done a fantastic job bought into the their philosophy for four years and then rip up the manual and start a fresh with the company relatively naive in a new market. It's fine to change direction the issue I have is we have a squad here built up on this philosophy over a period of four years which now needs to be dismantled. It needs to be dismantled by a man who has failed miserably for years. My question is we have now lost two precious weeks in a highly competitive market to simply hire the one candidate who put his hand forward within the first few days. I want answers as a fan as to why: 1. It took so long. 2. Why Ranieri, based on his unsuccessful last few jobs is genuinely seen as the right candidate. 3 What is the philosophy the club is going to base itself on. Not spend money here and there and hope for the best but what exactly is the plan what exactly is this long term ambition? When you look at the intelligence and structure clubs like Swansea. Stoke and Southampton etc base and operate themselves on. Every fan who's got a smile on the face can they seriously support this lack of direction going forward? I am genuinely asking as there is a right to turn a small club into a success in this league and then there's the QPR way. I fear we are choosing the latter.
ImBlue Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Tell me where exactly he should have won the league. Irrelevant really as we don't need to win the league to be happy
Babylon Posted 13 July 2015 Author Posted 13 July 2015 Your talking out of your ass Babs not even comparable imo, I could understand if we appointed a manager with no prem experience. With Sven we appointed a manager with no championship experience and that was destined to fail. Of course it's comparable. We've been here before, binning off a man who was a builder with a decent record for fancy names, grand ideas... and presumably chucking money about again. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't... but my preference was to continue building in the fashion we had been and the way that has served us so well under Pearson. So yes I believe they have failed to learn their previous lessons, or those set by other teams (of similar stature) that have been successful of late in this league, by keeping continuity in their managerial appointments. You can say Ranieri has a better track record if you want, but Sven won more. They are both at the arse end of their careers, both drifted into managing international teams (that aren't their own nation), which smacks to me of a lack of desire. Ranieri has a decent win percentage at his teams though (so he should given who they were, you could argue they should be better). He seems a likeable bloke from what I've seen on TV, some of his transfers seems to have been decent (I've not seen all of them though so there could be soom duffers). He will get my support and I will give him time as I do with all managers, that's what I believe in. I'm just disappointed that we've not gone down the path I had hoped and have reverted to names and probably money again.
jayfox26 Posted 13 July 2015 Posted 13 July 2015 Look, I know you're not feeble minded. I have seen a few of your posts and you are mildly coherent. I suggest you go back and actually read my original post and the person I was quoting. The whole point I was making was that you cannot list 6 shit managers who have been linked and say "he was the best available", because there is a whole world of other managers out there other than a few people listed on the press or on here. It wasn't a case of Lennon, Cotterill, Preki or Ranieri. Yes, if you felt like guessing he's probably the best of that bunch, but you just can't say he's the best option available like there were only those choices, as there are more than just 6 managers. But going back to my original post that you quoted, I never said there weren't other managers out there. There are 1000's of football managers across the world, I guess the point i was trying to make was that I am much happier than I would be had we got one of the other many names that were mentioned. Yes it could be seen as a gamble with Ranieri but I am happier taking a gamble that could push the club higher than we ever thought possible than have a manager like most of the other clubs around us that have little ambition and are happy to just avoid relegation eg WBA - Pulis, Newcastle - mcclaren etc
Babylon Posted 13 July 2015 Author Posted 13 July 2015 I'll take that as a compliment and agree to disagree. Until someone offers a credible alternative I'll go on believing we got the best we possibly could. Saying you beleive he's the best we could possibly do is one thing, listing 5 or 6 shit ones and making out it was either him or them is ludicrous as it's clearly not the case.
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