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The ugly face of racism.

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I'm bloody fuming.

My daughter has just called one of her good friends from school (a sikh girl of Indian heritage) to see if she'd like to go swimming: the girl asked her mum, who came to the phone and told my daughter: "we have no control who our daughter is friends with at school, but outside of school, we do. We don't trust white people, so the answer is no".

My daughter is really upset and confused at such overt racism. She has been brought up to treat everyone with equal respect, regardless of race/religion/sexual orientation, and she just doesn't get this at all.

I feel like calling the woman and having it out with her; can you imagine how she'd feel if I'd forbidden my daughter to associate with their daughter, on the grounds that "I don't trust sikhs/asians//brown people"?

Guest MattP
Posted

Appalling. Surprised as well, Sikhs to me have always been the most open Asian group to integration, I still have drinks every month or so with sikh guys I knew from work years ago and I've never experienced any racism from them.

 

It's frightening someone has the balls to say that to someone over the phone, imagine the beliefs they have they keep private.

Posted

Appalling. Surprised as well, Sikhs to me have always been the most open Asian group to integration, I still have drinks every month or so with sikh guys I knew from work years ago and I've never experiences any racism from them.

It's frigtening someone has the balls to say that to someone over the phone, imagine the beliefs they have they keep private.

I know more Hindus than Sikhs but the ones I know are all completely sound so I'm surprised at this tbh
Posted

I know more Hindus than Sikhs but the ones I know are all completely sound so I'm surprised at this tbh

Absolutely.

This isn't aimed at sikhs in general (I wouldn't dream of making such a sweeping generalization); my problem is with this one woman and her hateful attitude.

Posted

That's well weird.

 

I wonder what the reasoning is behind the "We don't trust white people" comment.  I mean, there's a million things it could be, but I'm intrigued as to whether it's general prejudice or there's something specific behind it, and if so, what?  As a white person I've heard all the problems associated with every ethnic group going, except my own, of course.

 

You can trust me, I'm Bellend

Posted

That's bad. Why live in a white person's country. Ignorance of this kind is bad, stereotyping is just as bad.

The only question I would have is why does she have such beliefs

Posted

I know more Hindus than Sikhs but the ones I know are all completely sound so I'm surprised at this tbh

Bad people in all communities, we are all human of course, and they are the shittiest species of any kind
Posted

She sounds like an appalling person. I think I'd be inclined to take a few deep breaths and then give her a call to make it clear that if she wants to express racist views she can do it to you and not to your daughter.

Guest Sharpe's Fox
Posted

Sounds like a right bitch. My prediction is that she had a sweeping love affair with a white dud called Roy, who left her for a job in Australia.

Posted

I thought this was going to be a photo of Malky Mackay.

I wonder how this woman feels about black people or southeast Asians? Fortunately, as she says, she can't control who her daughter is friends with at school, so there is still hope for junior.

Posted

I'm bloody fuming.

My daughter has just called one of her good friends from school (a sikh girl of Indian heritage) to see if she'd like to go swimming: the girl asked her mum, who came to the phone and told my daughter: "we have no control who our daughter is friends with at school, but outside of school, we do. We don't trust white people, so the answer is no".

My daughter is really upset and confused at such overt racism. She has been brought up to treat everyone with equal respect, regardless of race/religion/sexual orientation, and she just doesn't get this at all.

I feel like calling the woman and having it out with her; can you imagine how she'd feel if I'd forbidden my daughter to associate with their daughter, on the grounds that "I don't trust sikhs/asians//brown people"?

Don't "have it out with her" it will confirm her suspicions ...

Posted

I think you need to have a serious think about what you're going to do. Its all well and good calling and arguing but if word gets out at the school then the sikh girl could be subjected to some terrible bullying. I wonder if a talk with the school might help.

 

Myself i would call the parents and not start mouthing off. They obviously dont trust white people and you calling them going mad and swearing only fuels their theory more. I would call and tell them that you dont appreciate them sharing their racist views with your daughter and certainly shouldnt be passing them views onto their own daughter. Ask why they have these beliefs.

 

I would then get in contact with the school and make them aware of their views. The poor Sikh girl probably doesnt have the same views as her parents but could end up being bullied because of her parents.

 

Glad im not in your shoes Buce. That is a very difficult problem to sort out.

Posted

Maybe her daughter has had issues at school she has not confided in with your daughter. However whatever reason, calm down then as others have said call her or maybe the father (man to man) as it would be a different perspective, andsay you are not  happy as to how the remarks were said to your daughter and not to yourself and then ask why they feel that way.

I know some Sikhs and they get along with everybody.

Posted

Britain 2015 for you there, sadly.

Sorry but that's rubbish, or people wouldn't want to immigrate here.

We're generally a very liberal, open minded, pretty laid back people. There's far worse race tension in the states and in mainland Europe. Hell, the further east you go the worse it generally gets - I love the Japanese but they're terrible for race attitudes!

The left wing press like to make out we're all racist, the right wing press like to hope we're all racist but the vast majority of the population don't really give a shit what colour someone is.

That goes for the white British and pretty much all ethnic minorities.

This woman might be a twat but as Matt says, there's countless other Sikhs that are cool.

There's racist morons from every race but I don't think they're a majority anywhere in modern Britain.

Posted

Sorry but that's rubbish, or people wouldn't want to immigrate here.

We're generally a very liberal, open minded, pretty laid back people. There's far worse race tension in the states and in mainland Europe. Hell, the further east you go the worse it generally gets - I love the Japanese but they're terrible for race attitudes!

The left wing press like to make out we're all racist, the right wing press like to hope we're all racist but the vast majority of the population don't really give a shit what colour someone is.

That goes for the white British and pretty much all ethnic minorities.

This woman might be a twat but as Matt says, there's countless other Sikhs that are cool.

There's racist morons from every race but I don't think they're a majority anywhere in modern Britain.

 

Welsh are the worst.  :rolleyes: No taste in women.  :D  :thumbup:

Posted

I think you need to have a serious think about what you're going to do. Its all well and good calling and arguing but if word gets out at the school then the sikh girl could be subjected to some terrible bullying. I wonder if a talk with the school might help.

 

Myself i would call the parents and not start mouthing off. They obviously dont trust white people and you calling them going mad and swearing only fuels their theory more. I would call and tell them that you dont appreciate them sharing their racist views with your daughter and certainly shouldnt be passing them views onto their own daughter. Ask why they have these beliefs.

 

I would then get in contact with the school and make them aware of their views. The poor Sikh girl probably doesnt have the same views as her parents but could end up being bullied because of her parents.

 

Glad im not in your shoes Buce. That is a very difficult problem to sort out.

 

Best way to deal with this for me. I think that racism and bigoted views being passed on to children is horrible but there's unfortunately not much you can do about it.

Posted

disgusting. its like white people are the only ones who can be racist

Britain 2015 for you there, sadly.

 

I think you'll find it difficult to find a single person who doesn't think this woman is being both racist and a twat. So no, it doesn't sum up Britain at all and no, nobody with a brain thinks that only white people can be racist.

Guest MattP
Posted

How old is the girl Buce?

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