leicsmac Posted 11 October 2016 Posted 11 October 2016 7 minutes ago, SMX11 said: Some reports suggest that it was Paul Ryan's advisor that leaked the Trump tape. This will no doubt harbour more anti establishment feelings..... That would make sense, given that Ryan has just done what he did. But the Alt Right and the anti establishment support he can corral isn't going to do enough to get Trump over the finish line by itself.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 11 October 2016 Posted 11 October 2016 22 hours ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Played golf with a yank today who spends half the year over here and half in Florida (lucky sod). He reckons there's millions of voters who won't vote for Hilary - just because she's female. And he also reckons there's a great deal of people who will vote for Trump but won't admit it out loud. Apparently there's also people studying all the social media 'chatter' on the election which points to the majority of trends and comments supporting Trump. the fact she's an absolute psychopath is probably a bigger factor than her having a minge
Merging Cultures Posted 11 October 2016 Posted 11 October 2016 I've started following Trump on twitter. It's hilarious. He's in full melt down mode re the GOP leaders dropping him.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 11 October 2016 Posted 11 October 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/2QjtMmmSNKnWBd5pvFYZ7x0/who-said-it-donald-trump-or-hillary-clinton?intc_type=promo&intc_location=news&intc_campaign=trumporclinton&intc_linkname=5live_ent_quiz got 3/10
SMX11 Posted 11 October 2016 Posted 11 October 2016 The latest Wikileaks dump is rather damning on the Clinton campaign. Admitting to wanting create an unware populace that can be controlled and that Clinton is beginning to 'hate common Americans'. This has to be the most ridiculous election to date.
Carl the Llama Posted 12 October 2016 Posted 12 October 2016 1 hour ago, SMX11 said: The latest Wikileaks dump is rather damning on the Clinton campaign. Admitting to wanting create an unware populace that can be controlled and that Clinton is beginning to 'hate common Americans'. This has to be the most ridiculous election to date. I'd double check your info. I just did a quick google and can't find anything to corroborate your first claim whereas the line you've quoted is from one of her campaign advisers saying how she hates using the term 'everyday Americans' in her speech rhetoric.
sm1 Posted 12 October 2016 Posted 12 October 2016 1 hour ago, SMX11 said: The latest Wikileaks dump is rather damning on the Clinton campaign. Admitting to wanting create an unware populace that can be controlled and that Clinton is beginning to 'hate common Americans'. This has to be the most ridiculous election to date. Unfortunately because the media in the USA are so anti Trump they aren't really talking about these leaks as much as Trumps' tapes, but if anybody wants to know the real Hillary these are a must. She discusses wanting opening borders, how the Saudis are funding ISIS along with Qater (the US sells them the weapons that they give to ISIS, so infact they are fighting an army, armed by them) and how ignorant voters are the key to winning the elections. Whole lot more about the corrupt Clinton foundation, massacre in Benghazi, her links to the media and her links to the top Banks. She's a nasty piece of work, wholly controlled by big business and the Neo Cons in Washington. Anybody who thinks the world is a safer place with her in charge of the US are in for a nasty shock when/if she wins.
Carl the Llama Posted 12 October 2016 Posted 12 October 2016 15 minutes ago, sm1 said: Unfortunately because the media in the USA are so anti Drumpf they aren't really talking about these leaks as much as Drumpfs' tapes, but if anybody wants to know the real Hillary these are a must. She discusses wanting opening borders, how the Saudis are funding ISIS along with Qater (the US sells them the weapons that they give to ISIS, so infact they are fighting an army, armed by them) and how ignorant voters are the key to winning the elections. Whole lot more about the corrupt Clinton foundation, massacre in Benghazi, her links to the media and her links to the top Banks. She's a nasty piece of work, wholly controlled by big business and the Neo Cons in Washington. Anybody who thinks the world is a safer place with her in charge of the US are in for a nasty shock when/if she wins. Same can be said of both candidates and really, of the two, I think I'd rather not find out how safe we are with an angry oompa loompa in control of the world's largest nuclear arsenal.
Guest MattP Posted 12 October 2016 Posted 12 October 2016 Trump was never going to get a fair shout from the press, that was obvious from the start, anyone from a more extreme position in politics never will whether it be him, Corbyn or Farage. Of course the media want Clinton to win, half of them have probably got a stake in her. That said, none of those mentioned can blame the media for their biggest mistakes they have made. These are the worst two candidates we've seen for a long time and whichever party loses this election will be the winner in the long term as they'll be shaping the World from 2020-2030 minimum.
MPH Posted 13 October 2016 Posted 13 October 2016 So from what i can work out from Both debates so far is: Looking forward to some in depth coverage on policies..
purpleronnie Posted 14 October 2016 Posted 14 October 2016 On 9/6/2016 at 13:53, MattP said: I hadn't but thanks, was an interesting read, I can certainly believe it as well, even more so in a country as obssesed with race as the USA is. Trump started to gain again polls, no idea why either as he hadn't done anything, I had a feeling he might fight back though as soon as Purpleronnie decided it was over. Hey mattp take that back, I'm clearly now a predicting genius first of all the Referendum and now the Presidential election.
Guest MattP Posted 14 October 2016 Posted 14 October 2016 30 minutes ago, purpleronnie said: Hey mattp take that back, I'm clearly now a predicting genius first of all the Referendum and now the Presidential election. A Trump poll bounce now on the way Seriously though, I think even you are safe in this one!
foxy boxing Posted 17 October 2016 Posted 17 October 2016 this election is easily the easiest for comedians and satirists to make fun of with cartoon clown trump and hard to trust hillary.
leicsmac Posted 17 October 2016 Posted 17 October 2016 Interesting but not particularly surprising tidbit regarding potential voting patterns: amongst men Trump has an average 7 point lead, amongst women...Hillary has a 26 point lead. Could well end up being a big factor. Of course, the alt right are taking this news and running with it in their own way in the form of "repeal the 19th", the amendment that first gave women the vote in the US.
Darkon84 Posted 18 October 2016 Posted 18 October 2016 Good god, I think I've just been sick in my mouth. I know SNL is biased but it's really gone in to overdrive now.
Guest MattP Posted 18 October 2016 Posted 18 October 2016 19 minutes ago, Darkon84 said: Good god, I think I've just been sick in my mouth. I know SNL is biased but it's really gone in to overdrive now. Whatever you think of the candidates, we'll never ever see a a political campaign with so much media bias towards one candidate as this one, at times it has been beyond belief. The whole machine is in overdrive, the fact this is still not considered as finished is quite incredible, Trump shouldn't be anywhere near the whitehouse but if the people do deliver a massive "fcuk you" to the establishment and elect him i think they only have thrmselves to blame. One thing for certain, the problems people have that have caused Trump to become so popular aren't going away soon, yet I think a lot of people have convinced themselves they will, America is going to be a divide nation for a long time and Clinton is the last person (aside from Trump) who will bring them back together.
Darkon84 Posted 18 October 2016 Posted 18 October 2016 Just now, MattP said: Whatever you think of the candidates, we'll never ever see a a political campaign with so much media bias towards one candidate as this one, at times it has been beyond belief. The whole machine is in overdrive, the fact this is still not considered as finished is quite incredible, Trump shouldn't be anywhere near the whitehouse but if the people do deliver a massive "fcuk you" to the establishment and elect him i think they only have thrmselves to blame. One thing for certain, the problems people have that have caused Trump to become so popular aren't going away soon, yet I think a lot of people have convinced themselves they will, America is going to be a divide nation for a long time and Clinton is the last person (aside from Trump) who will bring them back together. Both of them are bloody terrible candidates, that much should be obvious to everyone. Trump is a loose cannon and shouldn't be near any form of position which involves countrywide, let alone worldwide policy, and Clinton must surely be the most crooked politician of all time, certainly the most devious I've ever seen at least. Things are going to get worse over there, no matter who wins. Bad times are coming for America. And now this has dropped. Undercover reporting highlighting links to Clinton's campaign that they are employed to send in people to disrupt and incite violence at Trump rallies.
leicsmac Posted 18 October 2016 Posted 18 October 2016 "The people" won't elect Trump. Disaffected white guys will if everyone else stays at home or gets their vote suppressed. Of course that conclusion alone shows the division amongst the US population, so that's spot on. There's so much entrenchment on either side that it will take a while to reconcile it, if it ever does. Hillary is also not the right person to do it, because some people won't listen to her simply because she's a woman, a Democrat, and Bills wife. You could say that differently about most of the candidates though, so there's no easy solution.
Alf Bentley Posted 18 October 2016 Posted 18 October 2016 32 minutes ago, Darkon84 said: Clinton must surely be the most crooked politician of all time, certainly the most devious I've ever seen at least. This may sound naive, but is a genuine question: What makes you say that? I don't pay much attention to US politics outside election times. I'm aware of her private email server that caused a scandal and that she has links to various big corporations (hardly unusual in US or UK politics, unfortunately). But what makes her stand out as exceptionally crooked and devious to you? it's a title for which there's a lot of competition, after all!
Guest MattP Posted 18 October 2016 Posted 18 October 2016 39 minutes ago, leicsmac said: "The people" won't elect Trump. Disaffected white guys will if everyone else stays at home or gets their vote suppressed. Of course that conclusion alone shows the division amongst the US population, so that's spot on. There's so much entrenchment on either side that it will take a while to reconcile it, if it ever does. Hillary is also not the right person to do it, because some people won't listen to her simply because she's a woman, a Democrat, and Bills wife. You could say that differently about most of the candidates though, so there's no easy solution. They won't listen to her because she's a liar, corrupt, a nutcase and would probably be in prison had Obama not intervened on her behalf - please don't start to trying to claim this hatred towards Hollary is anything to do with her vagina, it isn't and it lowers the tone of the debate. It's a shame as any half decent Republican candidate would have beaten her.
Guest MattP Posted 18 October 2016 Posted 18 October 2016 5 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said: But what makes her stand out as exceptionally crooked and devious to you? it's a title for which there's a lot of competition, after all! Even before the e-mail scandal, the numerous allegations of bullying and covering up rape and the whereabout of a lot of the Clinton foundation money, Obama himself did a pretty good job of describing what she was like back in 2008 when he was running against her.
Guest WarehamFox Posted 18 October 2016 Posted 18 October 2016 16 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said: This may sound naive, but is a genuine question: What makes you say that? I don't pay much attention to US politics outside election times. I'm aware of her private email server that caused a scandal and that she has links to various big corporations (hardly unusual in US or UK politics, unfortunately). But what makes her stand out as exceptionally crooked and devious to you? it's a title for which there's a lot of competition, after all! She has been involved in more scandals and cover ups than you can mention! Bengazi being up there! She is so self important and evil! I go to USA maybe twice a year up in Cape Cod and everyone hates her, and going up against a moron like Trump that says something. Which either of them win it's bad for America!
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