FA Cup - We should be super serious

[Oxfordfox83]

I reckon quite a few posters are falling into a trap of believing, the players are looking jaded scenario.They have

started to listen to what they believe is the obvious, because numerous pundits and individuals of the past, have

shoved the tiredness syndrome around the park.

Yes we lost AWAY to a side treble our costs.

Drew with the most expensive squad ever assemble in the PL

Drew at home, with a side who has been in immaculate form, on this forum underrated.

We know of 1 player our top striker has been carrying an injury.

We with a bit of normal, not exceptional fortune could of turned any of the games.

Chances a plenty in all games, even with some players not hitting their straps.

3 games, then panic.....It must be true, its happening we are falling apart we are jaded....!!!!!

VOODOO believers, wuzzies, we dont end in the top 4 failures !!!!. Tears on the pillow teddies being

thrown out of the pram.Expert fans with we know better comments, great trolls.

Look I have no idea how it will end..

But it will be because of normal, run of the mill football reasons, or a slight wonder, if we either implode

or find an explosive spurt.

This Proffesional Premier League ( not old 1st division lack of knowledge n fitness) group of above avg

Group of players, with or without new found transfer exchanges..............

Should comfortably see their way through 2 traditional competitions, even if we lose out somewhere along

the way.Starting Sunday.

I am not against, seeing the squad being used, because of Vardy it will be anyway.

Wholesale changes, like in the league cup, would really disappoint me and my expectations

of this, our new found seasons form PL team.

Yes I would like to see Kram, get a bite of the cherry, but with the base or BB of the team behind him.

What is interesting, so far like the season so far, we cant read what Claudio will be setting up

For neither Sunday or even the next few weeks.

Putting my non-biased hat on, already contender for...' Manager of the season'.

obviously the team would need a top 4 finish it for any claim to be serious.

Whatever, I take his advice, to dream and according how Sunday goes,

I pay my dues as a foxes fan, and dream........ of the DOUBLE, just for this moment to

put my thumb with spread fingers to nose, towards the doubters.

I love your posts. I only understand about 75% of them, but they're always great.

Disagree on this one though. If you're a runner, you can run 10k 4 times a week without ever feeling tired. But if you do it for too many weeks without a break, even if you're super-fit, you pick up niggles. Little tweaks of the ankle, slight calf strain, tight hammies every now and then. Nothing huge, but things make you more prone to bigger injuries and that would probably go away if you put your feet up for a week instead. That's all this is about.

Our first teamers have had six months solid in preseason and the most demanding league in the world without a break. They're fit, and they're capable of playing, but their chances of overcoming niggles and avoiding bigger injuries later will be improved by a rest. We have rotated less than any other team this year. That's why I'd like our key players to sit out of the Cup match, go away for a weekend, and come back refreshed. I don't want to see Mahrez and Albrighton (Fuchs, DD, Kante, Morgan) limping off later in the year. This isn't 'one more game', it's 10 days' rest versus zero rest. And our second string is more than good enough for Spuds anyway...

It's not our choice, luckily, but if Mahrez is even on the bench on Saturday I'll boo Claudio till my throat is raw...

[Guest MattP]

That cup run to the final really did Villa a lot of harm last year.

[Strokes]

Get in the champions league and we can build a side capable of challenging for the FA cup regularly.

[UPinCarolina]

I reckon quite a few posters are falling into a trap of believing, the players are looking jaded scenario.They have

started to listen to what they believe is the obvious, because numerous pundits and individuals of the past, have

shoved the tiredness syndrome around the park.

Yes we lost AWAY to a side treble our costs.

Drew with the most expensive squad ever assemble in the PL

Drew at home, with a side who has been in immaculate form, on this forum underrated.

We know of 1 player our top striker has been carrying an injury.

We with a bit of normal, not exceptional fortune could of turned any of the games.

Chances a plenty in all games, even with some players not hitting their straps.

3 games, then panic.....It must be true, its happening we are falling apart we are jaded....!!!!!

VOODOO believers, wuzzies, we dont end in the top 4 failures !!!!. Tears on the pillow teddies being

thrown out of the pram.Expert fans with we know better comments, great trolls.

Look I have no idea how it will end..

But it will be because of normal, run of the mill football reasons, or a slight wonder, if we either implode

or find an explosive spurt.

This Proffesional Premier League ( not old 1st division lack of knowledge n fitness) group of above avg

Group of players, with or without new found transfer exchanges..............

Should comfortably see their way through 2 traditional competitions, even if we lose out somewhere along

the way.Starting Sunday.

I am not against, seeing the squad being used, because of Vardy it will be anyway.

Wholesale changes, like in the league cup, would really disappoint me and my expectations

of this, our new found seasons form PL team.

Yes I would like to see Kram, get a bite of the cherry, but with the base or BB of the team behind him.

What is interesting, so far like the season so far, we cant read what Claudio will be setting up

For neither Sunday or even the next few weeks.

Putting my non-biased hat on, already contender for...' Manager of the season'.

obviously the team would need a top 4 finish it for any claim to be serious.

Whatever, I take his advice, to dream and according how Sunday goes,

I pay my dues as a foxes fan, and dream........ of the DOUBLE, just for this moment to

put my thumb with spread fingers to nose, towards the doubters.

I always enjoy reading your posts. They're slightly zany, but in a sensible sort of way. 

[Raw Dykes]

It's just such a small-time mentality to have though, citing the Wigan and Portsmouth example. I don't see anyone saying that about other recent Cup winners like Arsenal and Man City?

 

I agree we need to rest a couple of players and will accept it if we do on Sunday, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be trying to win it as well as doing our best in the league. Say we get through on Saturday and retain our league position when the fourth, fifth and sixth rounds take place? Do we have the same attitude then? Life is full of future possibilities and impossibilities and so is football, that's the fun of it! We're a side playing wonderful and fearless football this season. We should have embraced that in the League Cup, but didn't, so let's make sure we do in the competitions we're still involved in!

 

Well, amongst the names on the FA Cup trophy, we are still relatively small-time. Maybe not for much longer, who knows, but this club is nowhere near the size of the elite few.

 

The difference between us and WIgan or Portsmouth when they won it is that they didn't have a realistic chance of doing something unimaginable in their league campaigns. To them, their cup runs were what the league is to us right now.

 

The difference between us and Arsenal and Man CIty is clear - they have enough strength in depth to go all out for each competition they enter. No-one would really be shocked if they won the cup with their 2nd team.

 

I want to make it clear that I don't want us to get knocked out of the cup. I just want us to take the opportunity to rest whichever players need it, and play whichever players need the match practice. Ideally, we'd go through with our fringe players. I just think the situation we find ourselves in the league is a golden opportunity, and I don't want important players being risked on a seperate front.

 

Get in the champions league and we can build a side capable of challenging for the FA cup regularly.

 

Exactly. People could argue that it would be short-termist to take the FA Cup seriously under current circumstances.

 

I think we might well be spreading ourselves too thin if we were to put out a full-strength side in both competitions with our current squad.

 

If we were to reach the Champions' League, I'd expect the club to beef up the squad so that we could rotate it a bit more and be more competitive in more than one competition.

[ThaiFox]

Liverpool have more injuries after tonights game with Stoke. If this happens to us on Sunday we wont be able to cope. If we qualify for the C/L, as Strokes says, we'll attract better players, have a lot more money and can challenge for the cups with a greatly enhanced squad.

[fuchsntf]

Thats it isnt it, just found the key word, that worries the posters who want to rest majority of the team..

IF....

If we have a great chance of CL, we shouldnt gamble it...

THEN I ask this IF we have a chance on 4 levels, with the massive chance of some being lost.

Then why gamble one of them out, IF just one of those chances or 2 become possible.

because at this stage we cant predict, how it will pan out, to put good % s on something coming out

with something.

You need to keep the door open to all those chances, and not Sacrifice the unknown future

upon the one hope of ...IF......IF....and IF again.

"If" confused....The 4 chances.

1) Title

2) Top 4

3) Top 6

4 FA-cup..

Not forgetting the ideas being mentioned from all posters are doing one thing...

Its Just comparing theoritical chances and 'What IFs'

Any players picked of course will do their best and hope to win, their games.

BUT..I want to see from, owners, board management, and Through Claudio's selection

that they are not sacrificing one of those chances for any of the other, at this stage

of the season....Ask me again, if/when it comes to the FA-cup, against the Everton and Chelsea

games, and according to state of team and squad.

Sundays result might nullify all this BS anyway.

FFS we might do a Leeds and end up with 'Note', and that my fellow foxes would be.......

[TheLittleBigMan]

Gotta focus on the league if there's a CL place up for grabs. Would love to see batty bonaldo back down our place.

 

Up the foxes

[ozleicester]

Just listened to the BBC podcast.. bloody Stringer stealing my topics!  

[C-man]

Blimey I hope those going on Sunday don't have the same laissez-faire attitude displayed in this thread. Mind you, atmosphere can't be any worse than it has been away tbf.

[ozleicester]

Blimey I hope those going on Sunday don't have the same laissez-faire attitude displayed in this thread. Mind you, atmosphere can't be any worse than it has been away tbf.

Think we should send our 2nd string away supporters to this, you know, the ones who only use the clappers and sit most of the time, we need to save our standers and singers for the League 

[Voll Blau]

Liverpool have more injuries after tonights game with Stoke. If this happens to us on Sunday we wont be able to cope. If we qualify for the C/L, as Strokes says, we'll attract better players, have a lot more money and can challenge for the cups with a greatly enhanced squad.

 

Except the same argument will be applied on a different level. "Need to save our best for Europe" etc.

[MooseBreath]

I just want to see us playing in the champions league. Don't care if it doesn't last, don't care if we get hammered in every tie (not that we would - if we're capable of qualifying for the champions league through the premier league then we'd be capable of competing in the CL).

FA cup win would be great but let's be honest, we're I only in the third round and we're away at spurs, a game we'll struggle to win no matter what side we put out. If we were in the quarter final then it would be different, but right now our chances of qualifying for the CL are high, while our chances of winning the FA Cup are low. We've got to go with our best chance.

[Thracian]

^{I don't know how we'd likely get into any quarter-final without putting  our best team out - and that's what I'd do because it would just be the next game on the calendar for me.}

 

^{But I don't think that's what Ranieiri will do because I imagine he'll think it'll overstretch us and compromise our chase for the next 39 league points.}

 

^{Next season, or soon after that, the situation might be better and we might have a strong enough squad to compete properly in all competitions.}  

 

^{But right now we're stretched pretty thin even for League games.}

 

  

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Would like to see us put out a strong squad but I just can't see CR showing his hand for the league game. I reckon it'll be:

Kasp

 

RDL

Was

Benny

Chiwell
 

Gray

Kingy ©

Inler

Dyer

 

Okazaki

Ulloa

Pretty dismal up top but not too bad other than that. 

Edit; just remembered Kasper is vice captain so chuck him the armband. 

[ThaiFox]

Except the same argument will be applied on a different level. "Need to save our best for Europe" etc.

Maybe, but my point was with a much stronger squad we will be able to properly compete in all competitions. The Champions League will enable us to attract better players and it would greatly enhance the standing of LCFC worldwide. However much anyone wants to win the FA cup, it will not have the same effect if we fail to finish top four.

 

Wigan may have a cup win on the honours list, but they quickly lost their top players are now playing in front of sub 10,000 crowds in the third tier. I wonder if they would swap positions with us now? Villa went into this season thinking they were better than they were because of their cup final. They also lost their top players and are now certain to be relegated. 

 

Being in the C/L gives us the best chance of not only attracting top players, but also holding onto our very best players. Would Vardy or Mahrez stay if we were cup winners but 10th in the P/L and Man City came in for them? I think not. We have much more chance holding onto them if we qualify for the C/L.

 

I love the FA cup, but because this season has been so much better than any one expected, I personally would prefer to concentrate on something we may find it difficult to achieve again, which is the C/L. If we were in a Stoke, Everton, Southampton league position, I would have the opposite opinion.

[anotherharboroughfox]

Winning breeds confidence = more winning. 

FA Cup = Win in the club history books FOREVER.

 

The view that you cannot achieve success in one if competing in another is bullshit. Yes, rest a couple of players if needed but why not try to win every game possible? As Voll said, this year we're chasing top 4, last year battling relegation, year before that chasing promotion etc. And every year people say the league should be the focus. We should just forfeit the cup then? or get rid of the FA Cup altogether? every team has league targets and every team has cup targets and the idea that one has to be to do well and the other to do badly is just pure shit logic. 

[GaelicFox]

Champions league football and the globe becomes our oyster !

[Oxfordfox83]

Maybe, but my point was with a much stronger squad we will be able to properly compete in all competitions. The Champions League will enable us to attract better players and it would greatly enhance the standing of LCFC worldwide. However much anyone wants to win the FA cup, it will not have the same effect if we fail to finish top four.

Wigan may have a cup win on the honours list, but they quickly lost their top players are now playing in front of sub 10,000 crowds in the third tier. I wonder if they would swap positions with us now? Villa went into this season thinking they were better than they were because of their cup final. They also lost their top players and are now certain to be relegated.

Being in the C/L gives us the best chance of not only attracting top players, but also holding onto our very best players. Would Vardy or Mahrez stay if we were cup winners but 10th in the P/L and Man City came in for them? I think not. We have much more chance holding onto them if we qualify for the C/L.

I love the FA cup, but because this season has been so much better than any one expected, I personally would prefer to concentrate on something we may find it difficult to achieve again, which is the C/L. If we were in a Stoke, Everton, Southampton league position, I would have the opposite opinion.

Easy tiger, no-one's down till they're down.

God I hope they are though...

[Dan]

I've been a staunch backer of taking the cup seriously, but even I'm struggling to make a case for not making changes this time around. It's a farcical fixture schedule, convinced they've put league games after the third and fourth rounds just to devalue the tournament further and encourage more focus on the Premier League. Add in the fact we go there three days later there's the element of not wanting to give too much away tactically. I'm convinced we'll throw out a second string side and lose in a shit game. Just not feeling it this time I'm afraid. I don't want us to go out, I still want us to win undoubtedly, although I can respect it taking a back seat this year, it isn't like we're cruising to a 13th placed finish.

[Vardinio'sCat]

I'm going to watch this game knowing that even if we lose, our close rivals will have at least one extra game to play between league games

 

Anyone who thinks there is no such thing as a jaded team, hasn't been following England for the last 40 years!

 

Is it extra time or a replay, if we draw?

[Filbert_Ross]

I'm going to watch this game knowing that even if we lose, our close rivals will have at least one extra game to play between league games

Anyone who thinks there is no such thing as a jaded team, hasn't been following England for the last 40 years!

Is it extra time or a replay, if we draw?

Anyone who thinks this tie will could go straight into extra time hasn't been following the FA Cup for the last 40 years either.

[LCFC FOX]

Anyone seen Bilics interview? 100% spot on

[Jimbo]

Ugh. I see this nonsense all the time. For Wigan fans it was the proudest moment in a pretty dismal history, which is there in the record books forever, not to mention their fans' memories of that day which will last a lifetime. Winning trophies is what football's all about and we've never won this one. Time to stop acting like it's something we can do without in our trophy cabinet.

 

I get what you're saying here and any other season I'd agree 100% with you.  But right now, we're in a position that could change the future of our club for a good few years.

 

If (big IF) we finish in a champions league spot, the money that would generate would be unreal, on top of what we'd already earn from the premier league.  The calibre of player that we could attract increases massively.  If we could put ourselves in a position to challenge every year, the team improves year on year.

 

Trophies would follow.

 

For now, just this year, the FA cup can wait

[GaelicFox]

I've been a staunch backer of taking the cup seriously, but even I'm struggling to make a case for not making changes this time around. It's a farcical fixture schedule, convinced they've put league games after the third and fourth rounds just to devalue the tournament further and encourage more focus on the Premier League. Add in the fact we go there three days later there's the element of not wanting to give too much away tactically. I'm convinced we'll throw out a second string side and lose in a shit game. Just not feeling it this time I'm afraid. I don't want us to go out, I still want us to win undoubtedly, although I can respect it taking a back seat this year, it isn't like we're cruising to a 13th placed finish.

If the FA could they would award a champions league place to the winners , but they can't !

The FA cup is now a semi final and final completion for premier league teams , if you reach that stage you start to try , if you don't your not bothered