FA Cup - We should be super serious

[Stadt]

Ordinarily I'd agree but for once a team that "should focus on the league" has a reason to do so, we're not some shitty team that's going to rest our players to help secure 13th place in the league, I'd rather not jeopardise our position in the league by going full strength in the cup, ideally we win both games though

 

 

 

 

 

 

(playing the same team twice in one week reminds of playing portsmouth)

[fuchsntf]

I don't understand threads like this. You realise that we don't have to play both competitions on the same day?

We can do our best in both. Players don't really need a rest for a week unless, like Vardy, they aren't fit.

Damn right..!!!

I said before, if we got to the final, we would of only played ca 50 games. Not too sure, but I believe, there is only Wes.Morgan who would reach the top figure, so really it would be ,the players wouldnt even see 45 games.

Come on fellas, ffs I expect even this team even if its style is pressing and run, should

be able to play this amount of games, unless awkward injuries come into the equation.

Too many mother hens in the city fans roost...stop being wuzzies.

If our top players get injured, so what,... thats football, then the club management should find and invest in some quality players, to fill possible holes.

Lets stop pussy footing around with our heroes, its not only the fans, but the players want to prove themselves ,

Then missing 1 or 2 players can not be an excuse for notsecuring a top 6 place,

they fking earn enough, then bloody earn it..!!!

I give the players and manager slack, if my club and players have days off, or the odd poor performance, I will back them against, the silly negative posts, and not to take the ps.

A profi PL player I expect to get through a season of 50 or even less games, and I expect the club management support that squad by being ready to invest in having same quality players available, even if it means a slow squad build.

Claudio has mentioned he doesnt want to be excessive in January selling or buying, ok but be sure you have a squad to hold a reasonable standard level, even with expected poor runs.I would be disappointed if we ended outside the top 6 this season, but I wouldnt go on a witch-hunt if the team slipped.

But dont tell me these players cant play 42-50 games .No matter what our style is, or developes into.

[Guest kristianity77]

Huth rested at the weekend if Fuchs latest video is anything to go by!

[Oxfordfox83]

Re: Fuchsntf...

I get it, but they have played 3 games in 8 days and in the last one particularly looked tired, and given the sitters missed seem mentally drained. Rightly or wrongly, Mahrez and Vardy need a rest. So, I would argue, does Albrighton. At some stage, we also need to give a few of the other players (Benny, Inler, Dyer, Kram) a run, so that if they are needed they are up to speed and can last most of the game.

If any of the players were requesting a break against CR's wishes, then your points would be fairer-of course they can keep digging deeper, but the more they dig, the deeper they have to go next time. Claudio might be telling them quite rightly to relax for a few days, trust the understudies, and recharge the batteries for an assault on the title. I'd rather play a squad side (see above) and give our big guns 10 days off than suddenly find we have 6 exhausted/injured/out of form players in April. As I said before, our slightly weakened team (brimming with internationals) should be good enough for Spurs, who will likely rest Kane, Alli, etc...

[ThaiFox]

Well, that's probably put my stance better than I could. Except that however you look at it, you still end up changing with maybe 3 regular first teamers. For my money:

Kasper

RDL

Was

Benny (we could play Huth, but Benny needs gametime to get gametime, and Morgan had no summer break)

Chilwell (with Fuchs coming on if the game suits)

Dyer (find out if Villa Dyer or Bournemouth dyer was the real player)

Kante

King

Gray (No choice here-RM and MA have run themselves into the ground, and Mahrez in particular needs a rest).

Kram (at 10)

Shinji (9)

Would you go much different?

 

I wouldn't play Kante or Kasper. If either, or both, got injured we would really be in trouble. I'd play Inler instead of Kante and give the armband to Wasyl. This would give all our current first choice 10 days rest, which they clearly need, plus it gives a chance for 11 others to stake a claim as suspensions or injuries occur as the season goes on.

[Donut]

Its sensible to prioritise competitions, and the biggest competition for us this year is making sure we secure 4th. That could help the club take off in a way an FA cup win wont, and will prepel us to many FA cup challnges in the future

 

Of course, this club needs an FA cup in its tophy cabinet. its missing badly.

 

But top 4 for this club would be an achievement that might even surpass that for now. And an achievement that would have been much harder to pull off.

 

No comparisons with Astana, Hapeol Tel Aviv needed in terms of attracting players, our league is lucrative and attractive

[Monsell1976]

Said before our best chance of European football is in the league at present, if we could achieve that we would attract players we probably couldn't before.

The cup will probably be won by one of the big boys, who have the luxury we don't, a big enough squad to go for both.

So try not to waste the amazing start to the season, and play the fringe players.

[Bunyip]

It's a fair bet that Wigan and portsmouth would swop their F.A cup wins to be in our position right now. An F.A cup wins changes nothing at a club but a top four finish sure does.

[Clever Fox]

Like many others I feel a cup win is long overdue. But given our current position this season is not the time to go for it. I was very annoyed when we didn't take our chance last year against Villa, opting to rest players and not putting in a proper shift.

 

Now the target has to be top four regardless of where we might end up. It's the right thing to do. It will also give us the chance to access the fringe players better against decent opposition.

 

I'll take the three points from the league match all day long. 

[katieakita]

It's a fair bet that Wigan and portsmouth would swop their F.A cup wins to be in our position right now. An F.A cup wins changes nothing at a club but a top four finish sure does.

 

Do not expect the usual suspects to start buy any of the starting 11 picked should want to put in a performance and stake a claim for a starting place on the Weds. Also you get the chance to change the shape of your corner flags if you believe the stories.

[biggs]

Go for them both......it's not like there's that many extra games to be played......4 games and then the final after the season ends

[volpeazzurro]

I'd play a not usual 433 to start mainly to give certain players a much needed rest.

Schmeichel

RDL WAS Benny Chilwell

Inler Drinkwater King

Okazaki Krameric Gray

Subs. Huth, Ulloa, Shwartzer, Fuchs, Kante.

[Bunyip]

Do not expect the usual suspects to start buy any of the starting 11 picked should want to put in a performance and stake a claim for a starting place on the Weds. Also you get the chance to change the shape of your corner flags if you believe the stories.

 

 

Ah well if it's a change of corner flags lets go for it !

[Guest]

Reckon this will be a completely different XI. Really hoping Schwarzer isn't playing though

[C-man]

I understand changing the team for the Cup game because our players look knackered and in desperate need of a rest but not because the league should be priortised.

Do people not remember how fvcking bad we were after we unnecessarily sacrificed the Cup vs Huddersfield a few years back when chasing promotion? Ruined momentum completely. Different scenario this year as our momentum has been curtailed by tiredness already. A week's break for our top players could make a big difference and actually give us a better chance of winning both games versus Spurs.

Another reason for a winter break after the 3rd round - would mean more clubs take it seriously if there was a 3 week break after.... Just a thought.

[Captain...]

Well, that's probably put my stance better than I could. Except that however you look at it, you still end up changing with maybe 3 regular first teamers. For my money:

Kasper

RDL

Was

Benny (we could play Huth, but Benny needs gametime to get gametime, and Morgan had no summer break)

Chilwell (with Fuchs coming on if the game suits)

Dyer (find out if Villa Dyer or Bournemouth dyer was the real player)

Kante

King

Gray (No choice here-RM and MA have run themselves into the ground, and Mahrez in particular needs a rest).

Kram (at 10)

Shinji (9)

Would you go much different?

 

It's tough as I don't have the medical data on any of the players, if any of them have a knock or are only showing 80% fitness then I would rest them, Kasper must start, Schwarzer is past it, I would play Huth with Benny in the Cup and maybe Wasilewski and Morgan in the League against Spurs, going with Was and Benny could be an unnecessary risk.

 

In the middle, I would save Kante for the League match and give him a rest, going with Drinkwater and Inler and try and control the game (see if we can develop a plan B).

 

Agree about resting Mahrez  and giving Gray a shot, but it depends if we want to loan him back, in which case cup tying him might be a factor, Lawrence is another option, but I wouldn't want to throw them in there in an experimental team, it is tough and it really depends on many factors that I just don't know.

 

I just don't want to see Schwarzer and 10 people who have barely kicked a competitive football in the last 3 months, but Inler, King, Ulloa, Shinji, Wasilewski have all started games recently Dyer and RDL have been used a few times from the bench.

[CharlieCharles]

FA Cup should certainly NOT be are focus for the second half of the season, the league should be.

 

It will be heavily weakened side on Sunday, if we beat Tottenham then start thinking about a cup run.

[Voll Blau]

It's a fair bet that Wigan and portsmouth would swop their F.A cup wins to be in our position right now. An F.A cup wins changes nothing at a club but a top four finish sure does.

 

Ugh. I see this nonsense all the time. For Wigan fans it was the proudest moment in a pretty dismal history, which is there in the record books forever, not to mention their fans' memories of that day which will last a lifetime. Winning trophies is what football's all about and we've never won this one. Time to stop acting like it's something we can do without in our trophy cabinet.

[BrummieFOX]

I honestly don't think there is an argument to be had here. There is no reason why we can't put our best team (available) out in all competitions. Whilst the odd player may get tired and need a rest, a whole team suffering fatigue is a myth. No chance that is the case in only January.

 

Just as a reference point for going for it in all competitions. In Arsenal's 03/04 season they won the Premier League without losing a game, reached the semi-finals of the FA Cup, the semi-finals of the League Cup and the Quarter Finals of the Champions League had 23 players that played made more than 3 starting appearances.

[Raw Dykes]

Ugh. I see this nonsense all the time. For Wigan fans it was the proudest moment in a pretty dismal history, which is there in the record books forever, not to mention their fans' memories of that day which will last a lifetime. Winning trophies is what football's all about and we've never won this one. Time to stop acting like it's something we can do without in our trophy cabinet.

 

I don't think any one of us would rather not have us win it, I just think people realise that going for it this season could damage a league campaign that could potentially be our best ever, and chances are, there will not be another one anything like it again in our lifetimes.

 

I think all our focus should be on the league right now. Let's see just how high up the table we can finish.

 

We get a go at the FA Cup every season. How often do we go into the new calendar year 2nd in the PL? I can't even believe that I would ever be seriously talking about this club challenging for the PL title. We've got to put all our efforts into making the most of it, surely? The FA Cup can wait.

 

Just ask yourself how you would feel if a key player got injured or suspended playing in a cup match this season. That would be it. That would be our one chance blown.

[Wymsey]

Would love to be at Wembley with 40,000 other LCFC fans chanting 'Boys in Blue' and waving a scarf.

[Voll Blau]

I don't think any one of us would rather not have us win it, I just think people realise that going for it this season could damage a league campaign that could potentially be our best ever, and chances are, there will not be another one anything like it again in our lifetimes.

 

I think all our focus should be on the league right now. Let's see just how high up the table we can finish.

 

We get a go at the FA Cup every season. How often do we go into the new calendar year 2nd in the PL? I can't even believe that I would ever be seriously talking about this club challenging for the PL title. We've got to put all our efforts into making the most of it, surely? The FA Cup can wait.

 

Just ask yourself how you would feel if a key player got injured or suspended playing in a cup match this season. That would be it. That would be our one chance blown.

 

It's just such a small-time mentality to have though, citing the Wigan and Portsmouth example. I don't see anyone saying that about other recent Cup winners like Arsenal and Man City?

 

I agree we need to rest a couple of players and will accept it if we do on Sunday, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be trying to win it as well as doing our best in the league. Say we get through on Saturday and retain our league position when the fourth, fifth and sixth rounds take place? Do we have the same attitude then? Life is full of future possibilities and impossibilities and so is football, that's the fun of it! We're a side playing wonderful and fearless football this season. We should have embraced that in the League Cup, but didn't, so let's make sure we do in the competitions we're still involved in!

[Thracian]

Depressing that people wouldn't want to try to win everything we possibly can. Dropping out of the Cup is no guarantee at all of good league form.

 

 

I agree. But that's clearly not the way it works any more.

[fuchsntf]

I reckon quite a few posters are falling into a trap of believing, the players are looking jaded scenario.They have

started to listen to what they believe is the obvious, because numerous pundits and individuals of the past, have

shoved the tiredness syndrome around the park.

Yes we lost AWAY to a side treble our costs.

Drew with the most expensive squad ever assemble in the PL

Drew at home, with a side who has been in immaculate form, on this forum underrated.

We know of 1 player our top striker has been carrying an injury.

We with a bit of normal, not exceptional fortune could of turned any of the games.

Chances a plenty in all games, even with some players not hitting their straps.

3 games, then panic.....It must be true, its happening we are falling apart we are jaded....!!!!!

VOODOO believers, wuzzies, we dont end in the top 4 failures !!!!. Tears on the pillow teddies being

thrown out of the pram.Expert fans with we know better comments, great trolls.

Look I have no idea how it will end..

But it will be because of normal, run of the mill football reasons, or a slight wonder, if we either implode

or find an explosive spurt.

This Proffesional Premier League ( not old 1st division lack of knowledge n fitness) group of above avg

Group of players, with or without new found transfer exchanges..............

Should comfortably see their way through 2 traditional competitions, even if we lose out somewhere along

the way.Starting Sunday.

I am not against, seeing the squad being used, because of Vardy it will be anyway.

Wholesale changes, like in the league cup, would really disappoint me and my expectations

of this, our new found seasons form PL team.

Yes I would like to see Kram, get a bite of the cherry, but with the base or BB of the team behind him.

What is interesting, so far like the season so far, we cant read what Claudio will be setting up

For neither Sunday or even the next few weeks.

Putting my non-biased hat on, already contender for...' Manager of the season'.

obviously the team would need a top 4 finish it for any claim to be serious.

Whatever, I take his advice, to dream and according how Sunday goes,

I pay my dues as a foxes fan, and dream........ of the DOUBLE, just for this moment to

put my thumb with spread fingers to nose, towards the doubters.

[Stevosevic]

We should rest a few, but it will still be a strong side that will be looking to win.