FrankieWorthoYaggedMyWife Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 Wilshere I could just about stomach considering hendersons injury, as long as drinkwater goes as well. But shaw? Excellent player but hasn't played a game since breaking his leg? I don't like Rose but he deserves to be in the squad, and probably start too. hes fooking dreadful.
ScouseFox Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 some of the stuff roy said about shaw in the last international break it wouldn't shock me in the slightest if he took him still injured. however on form it should surely be ryan bertrand who misses out not rose. but still, it'll annoy more spurs fans so everyone's a winner.
Langston Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 Imagine if he'd just pick Aaron Cresswell. Actually think we're as strong as we have been in a good few years for striking options, especially given how each can offer something different. Even Carroll who I'd fancy taking as part of a four (along with Vardy, Kane and Sturridge) has looked sharp recently and gives us another dimension. Can't wait for us to shoehorn Vards out wide and stick Kane up on his own though to accommodate Rooney.
kingcarr21 Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 I would sooner take Defoe over Sturridge and Carroll for a plan B
ScouseFox Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 hart clyne/smalling/cahill/cresswell dier barkley/drinkwater alli vardy/kane WINS THE EUROS imho when it goes to shit, turn the front six into this. pace, crossing and big andy. drinkwater albrighton/alli/sterling vardy/carroll WHAT A DREAM TEAM
TheSomersetFox Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 hart clyne/smalling/cahill/cresswell dier barkley/drinkwater alli vardy/kane WINS THE EUROS imho when it goes to shit, turn the front six into this. pace, crossing and big andy. drinkwater albrighton/alli/sterling vardy/carroll WHAT A DREAM TEAM 4 cm's in a diamond makes me want to eat my own clegnuts but when the likely wide options are Lallana, Walcott, Milner and Townsend it softens the blow somewhat
ScouseFox Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 4 cm's in a diamond makes me want to eat my own clegnuts but when the likely wide options are Lallana, Walcott, Milner and Townsend it softens the blow somewhat i couldn't narrow it down to 2 cms and couldn't even be arsed to think of 2 good wide options so it makes sense. barkley and drinkwater as a two box to box hustle and bustle is their game. alli as a more attacking option, that's his game. dier sitting and shielding. that's his game. that's all we have to do, play our good players the way they are good at playing. we've nearly always had good enough players we just play them in a ridiculous formation or in roles they've never been put in before and therefore we look shit. also you'd hope with a formation like that it'd be kane bang up top and the lack of a "wide" man wouldn't matter much as vardy gets down the channels for fun all game anyway. for the first time in what seems like ages there are a 7 or 8 places in this first eleven, let alone squad, that are massively up for grabs. you could nearly always go front back to front and name most the starting line up. hart terry glen johnson gerrard henderson welbeck rooney etc. probably looking at hart, smalling, kane and nathaniel clyne (?) as the only nailed on starters. gonna be good fun.
TheSomersetFox Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 i couldn't narrow it down to 2 cms and couldn't even be arsed to think of 2 good wide options so it makes sense. barkley and drinkwater as a two box to box hustle and bustle is their game. alli as a more attacking option, that's his game. dier sitting and shielding. that's his game. that's all we have to do, play our good players the way they are good at playing. we've nearly always had good enough players we just play them in a ridiculous formation or in roles they've never been put in before and therefore we look shit. also you'd hope with a formation like that it'd be kane bang up top and the lack of a "wide" man wouldn't matter much as vardy gets down the channels for fun all game anyway. for the first time in what seems like ages there are a 7 or 8 places in this first eleven, let alone squad, that are massively up for grabs. you could nearly always go front back to front and name most the starting line up. hart terry glen johnson gerrard henderson welbeck rooney etc. probably looking at hart, smalling, kane and nathaniel clyne (?) as the only nailed on starters. gonna be good fun. That's the thing for me and all, i'd say that diamond is probably the best looking team on paper. And you'd hope Roy is gonna want the outstanding English players of this season (pretty much those cm's and forwards) playing in their best positions and roles. I reckon the nailed-on inclusion of Rooney will pretty much make it all fall apart though. He could probably play in any position from Dier to Vardy in that line-up, but he'd be a downgrade every time.
FrankieWorthoYaggedMyWife Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 hart clyne/smalling/cahill/cresswell dier barkley/drinkwater alli vardy/kane WINS THE EUROS imho when it goes to shit, turn the front six into this. pace, crossing and big andy. drinkwater albrighton/alli/sterling vardy/carroll WHAT A DREAM TEAM same Barkley who has been pulling a Madeline McCann since December?
ScouseFox Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 same Barkley who has been pulling a Madeline McCann since December? when the other options are jack wilshere who's been injured since i was born and jordan henderson who's also not only injured but not actually as good as barkley, then yeah
FrankieWorthoYaggedMyWife Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 when the other options are jack wilshere who's been injured since i was born and jordan henderson who's also not only injured but not actually as good as barkley, then yeah But its already been well documented he will go and if he goes he will start. I don't understand the debate about Rooney either. Whats the point of debating it when everyone knows he will go and start? Hart, Smalling, Cahill, Dier, Wilshere, Alli, Rooney, Kane are all pretty nailed on, whether you like it or not, first game. The other three will probably be Clyne, Bertrand and Sterling/Lallana. Barkley has been tucked up by Alli's form in fairness.
ScouseFox Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 But its already been well documented he will go and if he goes he will start. I don't understand the debate about Rooney either. Whats the point of debating it when everyone knows he will go and start? Hart, Smalling, Cahill, Dier, Wilshere, Alli, Rooney, Kane are all pretty nailed on, whether you like it or not, first game. The other three will probably be Clyne, Bertrand and Sterling/Lallana. Barkley has been tucked up by Alli's form in fairness. i wasn't saying who i thought would start, just an option that'd be better than what will probably start. alli vs barkley actually come out with very similar numbers, but one plays for the best footballing team since brazil 1970 and the other plays for the worst everton team of all time.
FrankieWorthoYaggedMyWife Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 i wasn't saying who i thought would start, just an option that'd be better than what will probably start. alli vs barkley actually come out with very similar numbers, but one plays for the best footballing team since brazil 1970 and the other plays for the worst everton team of all time. I dont know which made me laugh more then pal!
wardyfox86 Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 I think with the delay in the announcement til Monday, it pretty much confirms he is checking on Wilshires fitness. It's upsetting with the quality a lot of English midfielders have had this year, that Roy still relies on this crock. He should not be in the squad ahead of Dier/Alli/Drinks even Barkley to a lesser extent. Roy is so uninspiring, we won't win the cup under him for sure.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 No they keep changing the date watch it be a collect only now Yeh I know. Bet we wouldn't get the €15 P&P refunded either
The Year Of The Fox Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 I think with the delay in the announcement til Monday, it pretty much confirms he is checking on Wilshires fitness. It's upsetting with the quality a lot of English midfielders have had this year, that Roy still relies on this crock. He should not be in the squad ahead of Dier/Alli/Drinks even Barkley to a lesser extent. Roy is so uninspiring, we won't win the cup under him for sure. I thought he was waiting for Rooney to find some form..
Dodgy Bob Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 I can't believe he planned to make an announcement a few days before the last fixtures anyway. Surely you just wait until the league is over. He's such a thick twat, Roy Hodgson. Welbeck injury is good news, but Henderson being back in the frame and it looking like Wilshere will go is a bit of a disaster. There's two starting 11 central midfield positions gone with Rooney also looking guaranteed to start. Three places completely wasted already. Leaves the players who have actually shown some form this year fighting for scraps. God I hope so much that Hodgson gets sacked before the squad deadline.
theessexfox Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 Hart Walker Cahill Smalling Rose Dier Drinkwater Wilshere Alli Kane Vardy
Vacamion Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 Rooney as a born again midfielder isn't a patch on Drinky or even Noble. For my money, he only gets to go to the tournament in a suit as a pundit.
HowardsBulletHeader Posted 10 May 2016 Posted 10 May 2016 The wingers we have are currently either injured, crap or out of form. The team needs to play to its strengths which is attacking at pace. The strengths of the squad are in certain positions: Full back: Clyne, Bertrand, Rose, Walker, Baines Central Midfield: Dier, Drinky, Henderson, Milner, Barkley, Alli Striker: Kane, Vardy, Sturridge, Rooney It is crying out for a 4-4-2 diamond with the fullbacks bombing forward like the Spurs team do. Hart Clyne Cahill Smalling Rose Dier Barkley/Drinkwater Alli Kane Vardy But I don't hold much hope of seeing something like this I'm afraid.
Dan Posted 11 May 2016 Posted 11 May 2016 If Drinkwater doesn't make the squad then you've got to ask what he's actually got to do. Near enough an ever present in the comfortable league winners. Albrighton and Simpson have cases too. Simpson defensively has been excellent this season.
J.Lisemore Posted 11 May 2016 Posted 11 May 2016 I thought he was waiting for Rooney to find some form.. Rooney doesn't need form, he is our best player because his name is Wayne Rooney.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 11 May 2016 Posted 11 May 2016 Rooney doesn't need form, he is our best player because his name is Wayne Rooney. I'm praying this is sarcasm
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