lnkstern Posted 3 April 2016 Posted 3 April 2016 Speaking of headers... I honestly don't remember Southampton winning a single header in our box. Am I remembering this correctly? Massive CM play today.
VLC86 Posted 3 April 2016 Posted 3 April 2016 Speaking of headers... I honestly don't remember Southampton winning a single header in our box. Am I remembering this correctly? Massive CM play today. Pele had one in about 20th min that went over
foxes_rule1978 Posted 3 April 2016 Posted 3 April 2016 Vardy's dive was top notch Made me laugh, quality indeed... just shows how relaxed our players actually are despite being the later stages of the game
holyfox Posted 3 April 2016 Posted 3 April 2016 Well done guys, seen you play better and thought a draw Would of been fair, but you defended well and got the result. You had chances which you should have taken and we had more of the ball and didn't create much. Handballs - the reason Koeman is raging is because for weeks now penalties just haven't gone our way and it is getting beyond a joke now. Trying to look at it as if I was a neutral, the Simpson one I wouldn't have given personally but seen it given, but the huth one was stonewall. Fair play pal. If it was us on the other side we would probably feel the same. Best of luck for the rest of the season.. Oh and can we have pelle in the summer pls. Thanks
Chester Dontlie Posted 3 April 2016 Posted 3 April 2016 That pic of Huth and Pelle though Rob gives Pelle a kiss with his elbow. Classic
WigstonWanderer Posted 4 April 2016 Posted 4 April 2016 CL nailed on more or less. Another point? Move on to the next target after that. We're coming for you We're coming for you Barcelona we're coming for you!
Aroberts123 Posted 4 April 2016 Posted 4 April 2016 Found this on the spurs forum: " 1 point at Sunderland1 point at home to West Spam3 points against SwanseaLose at ManureDraw at home to EvertonLose at ChavsTotal points 75You come secondCOYS"If we finished on 75 points spurs would need 13 points from a possible 18- thats 4 wins, a draw and a loss.
Shinji-San Posted 4 April 2016 Posted 4 April 2016 Huth's is one where you can argue he knew what he was doing. It's ball-to-hand of course, but as he slows down he sticks his arm out more than you'd think is natural, so you could argue he's taking up a goalkeeping-style position early so its not possible for the ball to get past without hitting his arm. So yeah, I can see how someone could argue for handball on that one, Simpson's is never one though. This is the truth. Some people on here claiming that Huths arm was by his side when the ball struck it, , no. Watched the replay on motd and the front view camera is quite damning evidence. He clearly extends his arm outward (from his body) in an attempt to block the angle for the cross, thats when the ball hits his hand. I was right first time, it was a penalty
HighPeakFox Posted 4 April 2016 Posted 4 April 2016 This is the truth. Some people on here claiming that Huths arm was by his side when the ball struck it, , no. Watched the replay on motd and the front view camera is quite damning evidence. He clearly extends his arm outward (from his body) in an attempt to block the angle for the cross, thats when the ball hits his hand. I was right first time, it was a penalty His arm is out because it has to be somewhere. I'd like to know how long it takes for the ball to be struck, to impact - half a second? Less?
LanguedocFox Posted 4 April 2016 Posted 4 April 2016 A lot of words have been written about two possible penalties that weren't awarded - Koeman complained strongly about it afterwards. It's always disappointing to hear players and managers resorting to questionable points of refereeing when they've failed to get a result. But had Danny Simpson not struck the ball straight at Forster it would have been two and certainly Vardy would have done the job Mane failed to do - with Simpson in the way. Leicester once again reverted to surrendering possession and defending, showing their ability to adapt to differing situations. There's an adage (attributed to Coleman Cox) - "I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work, the more of it I seem to have." Well - the harder that defence works the fewer goals it lets in. The faster Vardy pressures defences the more penalties/free-kicks/crosses he gets. The more running Kanté does the more attacks get broken up. The more Okizaki put himself about the more chances he creates. Whatever the cognoscenti have to say about how much harder it's going to get for Leicester they fail to state how much harder it's going to get for Spurs, Arsenal and Manchester City to attain the title. I'm sure that City will not choke in these last few games - they will go out and play as they have all season. If they lose or draw then that will be down to other factors than their skills, élan and discipline. What Koeman didn't mention is that Wanyama could easily have been sent off at the beginning of the second half for pulling back Vardy when he was arguably clear through on goal.
Thracian Posted 4 April 2016 Posted 4 April 2016 Spoke with two Southampton fans after the match and both thought we were worthy winners and might have clinched the game 3-1 on merit. In the end it was a fabulous goal from Morgan that put three more points in our bag and what reward for a man who was so clearly man-of-the-match for Leicester. It was as if he had a magnetic head and the ball homed in on it most every time. Indeed I wondered at the sense of Southampton continueing to hoist crosses into the box but, to be fair they didn't look like getting through on the outside either. Felt a bit sorry for Simpson because his ridiculous miss from a place he's never been before but represented near point-blank range momentarily overshadowed some outstanding defending on yet another occasion when our defence looked all-but impregnable. Credit too to Fuchs for the cross that provided our goal. He looked up, picked his spot and curled the ball so perfectly onto Morgan's head for all that it required bravery and determination to add the finishing touch with a Southampton defender probably favourite against lesser opponents. The controversies? No penalty against Simpson...he tucked his arm into his body and didn't move it to gain advantage. Indeed I thought Huth more likely to have conceded a penalty when he opened his arm out in preventing a near post cross. The Vardy issue seemed marginal. There was a potentially covering defender but he'd have needed to move like Lewis Hamilton to intercept the striker and I reckon 50% of referees would have waved a red. Overall though it was another focused and thoroughly professional victory. Significance? Nothing more than three more points, a couple of them added to the leeway between us and our nearest challenger, another game gone to reduce the chances of our being caught and encouragement to focus on our next challenge with the same kind of confidence and determination. Happy days!.
les-tah Posted 4 April 2016 Posted 4 April 2016 Fuchs is a yellow card away from missing a game which looks like Ben Chilwell will need to step up. Really hope he doesn't get booked as his impact has been amazing!
Captain... Posted 4 April 2016 Posted 4 April 2016 There arent dozens of occasions in a match where a ball his an opposition player on the arm. Laws make no sense whatsoever. Huths arms are away from his body today, ball is crossed, if it doesnt hit his arm its going into a dangerous area, nothing given. In the Newcastle 3 Man Utd 3 game, corner comes over, Fellaini and Mbemba contest a header, Mbemba loses his position and arms are away from body, headed against his hand from about 6 inches, penalty given. Nathan Dyer in game v Spurs FA Cup. Nowhere near goal, doesnt know whats going on, ball brushes hand, penalty given???????? Danny Simpson, running back towards the line and literally pushes the ball away with his arm! i was in the stadium, and ive seen a tv replay, he physically pushed it away with his arm, what happened? nothing! Cissokho in the game v Aston Villa away. Ball comes across the box, Cissokho slides to block the shot. Has no idea where the shot will go, and has the ball blasted at him from roughly 3 yards. Penalty given????? Alex Oxlade Chamberlain vs Olympiakos in the Champions League, loose ball breaks, misjudges the ball, controls it with his arm right in front of the referee. nothing! How can controlling the ball not be a deliberate action? Christian Fuchs at home this season (cant remember exactly the game) totally misjudges the ball, arms are miles away from his body, nothing! Raheem Sterling vs Spurs, jumps to block a cross, whilst turning his back so can in no way deliberately be moving anything towards the ball. He jumps and arms move as would be natural when jumping, nothing unnatural happening. Penalty given??? Its so obvious that people are going to argue the opposite to every one of these decisions just to be controversial, but how is this total state of randomness better than handball is a penalty? A better solution would be an indirect free kick in all those situations. Indirect free kick against any team gaining an advantage from the ball striking the hand/arm. Direct free kick/penalty and yellow card when it is deliberate, red when it is stopping a clear goal scoring opportunity. Take the Huth one yesterday, there is no way Southampton deserve a goal for kicking the ball at his hand, but it is also unfair that a cross was blocked by the hand. Probblem a cross was unfairly blocked, solution Southampton get another attempt to cross it in with an indirect free kick, Southampton get the chance to put the ball in again (in those cases the indirect free kick could be awarded from the point it was crossed in and not where contact was made, but that is making a simple law more complicated.) Of the above incidents, if the rule was applied Simpson wouldn't have conceded an in direct free kick IMO as the ball would have hit his body had his arm not been there so no advantage is gained, probably the same for Sterling, that was a very harsh decision, but if the ref makes a mistake in those situations then it doesn't result in a goal which, changes the game, but an indirect free kick.
Captain... Posted 4 April 2016 Posted 4 April 2016 Back on the penalties, watching them at full speed there is no way any official can be 100% certain and give a penalty, slow it down and it looks like Huth had his arm dangling for ages, and Simpson had a swipe at the ball, but full speed they don't look in anyway unnatural or deliberate movements.
cjslcfc Posted 4 April 2016 Posted 4 April 2016 Regarding the penalty decisions... Simpson's is never a penalty in a million years. I was right behind Huth's. In slow motion it always looks a lot worse than it is. In real time there was barely any distance between him and the striker (Pelle) and the ball gets smashed at his arm. It would have been very harsh to have given it IMO. Did anyone else think Southampton were a really angry team? Half their players just seemed to want to fight ours and the referee most of the time.
Simmo86 Posted 4 April 2016 Posted 4 April 2016 Fuchs is a yellow card away from missing a game which looks like Ben Chilwell will need to step up. Really hope he doesn't get booked as his impact has been amazing! Only on 4 yellows, and 5 yellows isn't a suspension anymore. Needs to be 10. 10 yellows is also scrapped after the Sunderland game.
les-tah Posted 4 April 2016 Posted 4 April 2016 Only on 4 yellows, and 5 yellows isn't a suspension anymore. Needs to be 10. 10 yellows is also scrapped after the Sunderland game. Thank god for thaht!! didnt even realize that..
Fox Ulike Posted 4 April 2016 Posted 4 April 2016 This is the truth. Some people on here claiming that Huths arm was by his side when the ball struck it, , no. Watched the replay on motd and the front view camera is quite damning evidence. He clearly extends his arm outward (from his body) in an attempt to block the angle for the cross, thats when the ball hits his hand. I was right first time, it was a penalty Nah. He doesn't have to have his arm 'by his side' That's irrelevant. He's allowed to use his arm to run and help his balance!! Players don't have to run around with their arms hidden by their sides! The point is whether it's 'deliberate' handball, or not. He clearly hasn't had time to move his hand out of the way. His arm isn't in an 'unnatural position'. He hasn't made a motion of his arm towards the ball. No penalty.
CosbehFox Posted 4 April 2016 Posted 4 April 2016 Regarding the penalty decisions... Simpson's is never a penalty in a million years. I was right behind Huth's. In slow motion it always looks a lot worse than it is. In real time there was barely any distance between him and the striker (Pelle) and the ball gets smashed at his arm. It would have been very harsh to have given it IMO. Did anyone else think Southampton were a really angry team? Half their players just seemed to want to fight ours and the referee most of the time. Touch of jealously there and a team of ego's for me. It's gonna unmentioned but Fonte grabbed Vardy around the neck and then lowered his head into him. No one of the officials saw it. Oliver chose post incident to speak towards Clasie and Vardy. Another day, Fonte gets caught doing it red card
Alf Bentley Posted 4 April 2016 Posted 4 April 2016 Agreed that neither penalty should have been given. Where we WERE lucky is that many refs would have wrongly given one or the other - and might have wrongly sent Simpson off. Refs don't often get much credit, but I thought Oliver had an excellent game yesterday. His decision to only give Wanyama a yellow when Vardy was about to run clear was also correct - and some refs would have wrongly given Wanyama a red for that.
Guest Col city fan Posted 4 April 2016 Posted 4 April 2016 I simply think 'the authorities' need to clarify the handball in the box thing. It's too subject to interpretation. How to do it..? Dunno. Somebody on Talk Sport suggested make it a blanket "if it hits a hand, it's a penalty..end of" I don't agree.. I think you'd get strikers shooting at defenders hands to gain a penno! Agreed that neither penalty should have been given. Where we WERE lucky is that many refs would have wrongly given one or the other - and might have wrongly sent Simpson off. Refs don't often get much credit, but I thought Oliver had an excellent game yesterday. His decision to only give Wanyama a yellow when Vardy was about to run clear was also correct - and some refs would have wrongly given Wanyama a red for that. Spot on Alf..
erlee Posted 4 April 2016 Posted 4 April 2016 This is the truth. Some people on here claiming that Huths arm was by his side when the ball struck it, , no. Watched the replay on motd and the front view camera is quite damning evidence. He clearly extends his arm outward (from his body) in an attempt to block the angle for the cross, thats when the ball hits his hand. I was right first time, it was a penalty Huth incident is a better case for a penalty. Simpson's arm was tucked into his body & is facing sideways. (if his arm was flaying - def a penalty)
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