BlueTillIDie Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 After a disastrous Euro's would you keep Wayne as England captain and if not who would you rather see do the job? I think he may be better off without it and will also relief the pressure to have to pick him if not in form in his new chosen postion, however we are struggling for leaders so who is there!
Fox92 Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 After a disastrous Euro's would you keep Wayne as England captain and if not who would you rather see do the job? I think he may be better off without it and will also relief the pressure to have to pick him if not in form in his new chosen postion, however we are struggling for leaders so who is there! You've just answered your own question I'm afraid. Hart is the one that's always shouting in the tunnel before the games yet he's made two high profile mistakes.
foxes_rule1978 Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 I wouldn't have him in the squad ... we are worse with him
BlueTillIDie Posted 28 June 2016 Author Posted 28 June 2016 Hart is the obvious one for passion and vocal ability just a shame he is prone to errors, i think Butland will become the main stay once fit.
Jimothy Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 He should never have been England captain anyway. Didn't want him in the squad at all, and he should step away now, it's time for big changes. I wouldn't have a set captain, I'd give it to the player in the team with the most caps. Nobody should feel undroppable.
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 Wooney as England skipper has always been a bit of a joke. Imagine him giving a team talk. I ain't being nasty, but seriously. He finds it hard to string a few sentences together. Personally, I think that a lack of leadership both on and off the pitch has been a major factor. Some of us wanted the FA to crawl out of its own ass and go to persuade John Terry back into the fold. Like him or not, the bloke is a born leader and commands respect from his fellow pros. He'd have made an infinitely better captain than Wayne. But this is where the FA really falls short. It puts political correctness (or that type of thing) over what English football really needs. The FA have done this for decades. Not appointing Clough for instance. It will do it again with Southgate. He'll be seen as a nice bloke (he apparently is) but niceness and managerial ability don't always go hand in hand. Cahill, alongside Terry at this tournament would have done a much better job than our shaky defence has done. And Terry would have probably took over from daft Woy when giving the half time talk as well.
AKCJ Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 Making him England captain, as well as United making him their captain, has absolutely ruined him.
Tielemans63 Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 Been racking my brains for a good suggestion for England captain....genuinely can't think of one. Would've gone with Hart but he seems to be in rapid decline. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 It's sad but there's nobody you can pick - not saying I'd agree on iota but if Rooney was stripped of it I'd expect the captaincy to go to either Kane, Cahill or Henderson which is frightening.
m4DD0gg Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 Rooney has the leadership skills of a class 45 diesel locomotive. He needs to do the honourable thing for the first time in his life and retire.
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 I think this thread is hitting it home. Who is there as leadership material? We are severely lacking in this respect. We have too many 'nice blokes' (eg Cahill), too many blokes as thick as shite (eg Kane) and too many bottlers (choose any of the Spurs lot). I didn't realize the contrast was as apparent actually. You look at Italy yesterday..Buffon, Chiellini, DeRossi..all natural leaders of others. DeRossi must be about 33/34 now isn't he, and has probably been included exactly for this reason..his leadership qualities. Literally, we look like a bunch of amateurs in comparison.
BlueTillIDie Posted 28 June 2016 Author Posted 28 June 2016 I have literally been going over and over this and the bottom line is we have no leaders and unfortunaletly every team needs them to be sucessfull. What if.....maybe only one man can save us........
MPH Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 he's a better deep lying midfielder than he is a striker... But who else can be considered an England regular who is a natural leader?
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 Drinkwater. Lovely player he is, skipper material he ain't. Try harder than that surely?
bmt Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 Rooney should never be captain. Always throws tantrums and kicks out - not a good example in any way. What the FA don't seem to understand is that age doesn't equal maturity. We don't have many other leaders but there has to be a squad overhaul and there are some players with leadership potential on the fringes. I know Hart had a poor tournament but I would give him the armband in the immediate future.
Izzy Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 Just goes to show what dire straights England are in. None of us can come up with a viable option for England skipper. How sad. Looking back at some of the great England captains and none of this shower of shite are fit to lace their boots. I wouldn't give any of them house room and I'm genuinely struggling to think of someone in the current set up who's worthy of the arm band. This is an all time low for England. We're fooked and the whole thing is a fvckin shambles.
Tuna Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 Keep him as captain? I'd enforce his retirement from the national team. I don't give a damn about him breaking Charlton's record with penalties against San Marino and Estonia. I don't give a damn about it. He's shot, a clapped out old banger of a player with too many miles on the clock and ready for the knackers yard. Do you remember his performance at the KP last season? Worst player on the pitch. He should never have been captain in the first place, I honestly never saw the logic in appointing him.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 Rooney should not ever play again let alone be captain
Trav Le Bleu Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 Lovely player he is, skipper material he ain't. Try harder than that surely? I was being ironic. He'd still be better than Rooney. This is another thing that the England set-up gets wrong time after time. It was Beckham before. I've always been surprisingly impressed when I've heard Becks talk football, he knows football, but he's no great commander or orator. They seem to think the Captain's job should go to the glamour players.
Leicesterpool Posted 28 June 2016 Posted 28 June 2016 We haven't had a decent leader in years not since Beckham, there isn't enough good talkers in the dressing room. Rooney is too quiet and not quite someone you can turn to for inspiration or advice. Hart comes across too much like a Lance Corporal Jones character, full of energy and passion but too calamity. Looking around there's just no one.
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