foxinsox Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 Mendy is not a ball winner. Did good passes, but sideways not forwards. To be fair striking options were not great. On the whole I like the new signings and am confident that they can integrate well. Musa needs to work on his finishing. He was too far forward when e got the ball from Ulloa. He was in the clear so should have controlled it rather than scuffing it. PSG were pure class though. All English teams have a long way to go to be the equals of them or the Spanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 Those suggesting we'll be thrashed at Wembley next week. United lost 4-1 to Dortmund. A side i'd rate as being worse than PSG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJB-fox Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 Couldn't give a shit about this result. And if you are concerned with the result then I'm afraid you don't understand the concept of pre season friendlies. Ignore the score line it's all about fitness- and if our lads are getting fitter and not injured it's a good result! interesting wake up call mind with the real work just around the corner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 17 minutes ago, Bunyip said: To be honest did any of us expect that scoreline ? They outplayed us in every department and still looked like they could step up a gear if they wanted to. That is the level we now find ourselves up against in the champions league . If nothing else it told us we are not good enough to compete with the players we have . For me Both Mendy and Mussa look nothing like the price tag we paid for them , they improved the side not one iota . All in all it was a very nasty reality check I'm afraid. Just so you're aware, not every team in the champions league are of the quality of PSG. Probably one of the top 6 teams in the world currently. Oh... And it's a friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliall Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 so, i read the last couple of pages, went to chck the score expecting a 7-0 or worse. 4-0 against PSG in a friendly is hardly anything to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 21 minutes ago, Bunyip said: To be honest did any of us expect that scoreline ? They outplayed us in every department and still looked like they could step up a gear if they wanted to. That is the level we now find ourselves up against in the champions league . If nothing else it told us we are not good enough to compete with the players we have . For me Both Mendy and Mussa look nothing like the price tag we paid for them , they improved the side not one iota . All in all it was a very nasty reality check I'm afraid. Duplicate post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 Disappointing. So many problems, so little time. And the loss of Kante's left a massive gap that's nowhere close to being filled. Hence four goals conceded and defenders far too easily exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamogoon Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 I'm not totally doom and gloom as it was a friendly pre season warm up. But it has highlighted that we need a centre midfielder and a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarriedaLeicesterGirl Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 FFS, we didn't even play the starting line-up together at any time! However, I don't think Musa or Mendy have earned a starting position yet. I wouldn't be surprised if Armartey goes in for Kante, although my guess is we will be in the market, considering what I just wrote. And Gray will have a start in August, he is good; and he is hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 6 minutes ago, Thracian said: Disappointing. So many problems, so little time. And the loss of Kante's left a massive gap that's nowhere close to being filled. Hence four goals conceded and defenders far too easily exposed. Nothing to do with playing 5 non starters, playing a good team, it being a meaningless friendly... Definitely all about Kante not being there. Despite several being crosses from wide that he'd have done nothing about and a silly penno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 9 minutes ago, foxinsox said: Mendy is not a ball winner. Did good passes, but sideways not forwards. To be fair striking options were not great. On the whole I like the new signings and am confident that they can integrate well. Musa needs to work on his finishing. He was too far forward when e got the ball from Ulloa. He was in the clear so should have controlled it rather than scuffing it. PSG were pure class though. All English teams have a long way to go to be the equals of them or the Spanish. It's easy to blame our lone striker Ulloa. Shinji's not a Premiership striker and never willl be. But poor Ulloa, combative as he was, didn't get one decent aerial pass either from open play or from set-pieces. We really need two more specialist strikers, both with lots of movement and attitude. Ulloa will only show his worth if we can find someone to supply quick, accurate and properly flighted or directed crosses of the kind PSG provided so effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunyip Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 9 minutes ago, Babylon said: Just so you're aware, not every team in the champions league are of the quality of PSG. Probably one of the top 6 teams in the world currently. Oh... And it's a friendly. Friendly or not you should still be able to admit they were far superior to us . It was just my opinion . I would say P.S.G are in the top four world class teams at the moment . So although it was not really a surprise to lose to them I just did not think the gap would be so wide. As I said I think it was a nasty reality check that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 Just now, Bunyip said: Friendly or not you should still be able to admit they were far superior to us . It was just my opinion . I would say P.S.G are in the top four world class teams at the moment . So although it was not really a surprise to lose to them I just did not think the gap would be so wide. As I said I think it was a nasty reality check that's all. They were superior, I expected them to be and will they will continue to be as they've spent an enormous amount of money. its not an indicator of how we'd do in the champions league when we play teams nowhere near their standard. Other than to highlight we probably won't be winning the trophy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 4 nil is never acceptable so close to the start of the season. No positives for me, they just exposed all our weaknesses, we need to spend to continue to build and compete at this level. We aren't going to be able to play our best eleven every game now that we have the CL to think about. We need strength beyond that. Our net spend is near zero, we have stepped up several levels but lost our best player in Kante and still not spending, it isn't about mid-table or surviving now we are beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunyip Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 1 minute ago, Babylon said: They were superior, I expected them to be and will they will continue to be as they've spent an enormous amount of money. its not an indicator of how we'd do in the champions league when we play teams nowhere near their standard. Other than to highlight we probably won't be winning the trophy! Fair enough . I'm not expecting us to be anywhere near winning it either. On a positive about the game I'm sure Ranieri has also learned a lot about his new players and will changes tactics to suit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 Just now, Babylon said: Nothing to do with playing 5 non starters, playing a good team, it being a meaningless friendly... Definitely all about Kante not being there. Despite several being crosses from wide that he'd have done nothing about and a silly penno. I've considered all that. Kante is a brilliant hide-and-seek midfielder whose massive strength is his decision-making in terms of when is the perfect moment to pinch the ball. If the time's not right he protects the position, limits the space and waits for a better opportunity. The fourth goal we conceded was as a result of exactly the opposite, of a midfielder charging in when the ball wasn't quite there to be taken and leaving our entire back-four exposed for the easiest of breakthrough. It happened less dramatically in other phases too.and you can make all the excuses you like - just as people do in politics - but that won't mend the weakness. Or any of several other weaknesses we displayed which will also need mending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarriedaLeicesterGirl Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 Another interesting thing that seems to be coming out of this pre-season: The January 2016 transfer window might have a much larger impact than the Summer 2016 window. FFS MarriedALeicesterGirl, you are reading a lot from three pre-season friendlies, where no one is playing a full game, and the new signings are getting barely 30 minutes of playing time. Add in all the BS publicity they had to do in LA, the travelling, etc. you really don't have any frackin' idea what's "coming out of this pre-season" True dat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxhateram Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 Haha what a radiculous melt down. These are our pre season friendlies remember. Claudio is trying out new things and seeing what options he has. That was no where near our full strength team and they were playing against PSG's almost full first 11. Nothing to worry about here. We just need to find our new best starting 11. Which i have every confidence Claudio will have worked out by the time the season starts. You have to also bare in mind the travelling and publicity work that the squad has done this week also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarriedaLeicesterGirl Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 16 minutes ago, Thracian said: Ulloa will only show his worth if we can find someone to supply quick, accurate and properly flighted or directed crosses of the kind PSG provided so effectively. I am opposed to sending Ulloa to some crappy mid-table team for £10 million; but I am open to selling him to PSG for 25! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsox Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 Just now, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said: Another interesting thing that seems to be coming out of this pre-season: The January 2016 transfer window might have a much larger impact than the Summer 2016 window. FFS MarriedALeicesterGirl, you are reading a lot from three pre-season friendlies, where no one is playing a full game, and the new signings are getting barely 30 minutes of playing time. Add in all the BS publicity they had to do in LA, the travelling, etc. you really don't have any frackin' idea what's "coming out of this season" True dat. The African Cup of Nations will have a big effect too. Mahrez and Schlupp will go missing, whoever they are playing for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitcher Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 I think we have the added problem of perception with a score like this. I'm watching Bayern beat Inter 4-0 now but Inter with their history can play the "it's just a friendly" card. Not saying we can't play that card but it just gives fuel to others to confirm their view that we will be out of our depth. We are battling against that perception. A good result against Barcelona would obviously help on that front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 It was a friendly! we've had a season of absolutely outstanding results and to some extent we have been spoilt. We have this underlying belief we should steam roll every team which we play. PSG have spent the last few years building a super team. They have a selection of class players to choose and experience to go with it. This result isn't all doom and gloom but another learning curve for the team, the staff and Claudio. Think Arsenal last year, 6-2. if we do go into a champions league game against a team with similar quality with Shinji and Ulloa upfront than we will get steamed rolled. I am glad it's a meaningless friendly where we have suffered such a defeat rather than the real thing. We live, we learn and we go again. Small tweaks not a massive overhaul. Simply to adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 7 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said: 4 nil is never acceptable so close to the start of the season. No positives for me, they just exposed all our weaknesses, we need to spend to continue to build and compete at this level. We aren't going to be able to play our best eleven every game now that we have the CL to think about. We need strength beyond that. Our net spend is near zero, we have stepped up several levels but lost our best player in Kante and still not spending, it isn't about mid-table or surviving now we are beyond that. The level of spending doesn't matter nearly so much as the quality we purchase. People pay ridiculous sums of money for boilers and washing machines nowadays that don't provide anything like the lasting service of previous models. They also pay laughable amounts for trashy furniture that falls apart at the first knock. That doesn't make it money well spent. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 1 minute ago, Twitcher said: I think we have the added problem of perception with a score like this. I'm watching Bayern beat Inter 4-0 now but Inter with their history can play the "it's just a friendly" card. Not saying we can't play that card but it just gives fuel to others to confirm their view that we will be out of our depth. We are battling against that perception. A good result against Barcelona would obviously help on that front. When you have CL football you need 25 players that are all capable of doing the business. Without that you will struggle on every front, we are out of our depth at the moment because we aren't using this brilliant opportunity to spend the money we have gained on serious talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxhateram Posted 31 July 2016 Share Posted 31 July 2016 9 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said: 4 nil is never acceptable so close to the start of the season. No positives for me, they just exposed all our weaknesses, we need to spend to continue to build and compete at this level. We aren't going to be able to play our best eleven every game now that we have the CL to think about. We need strength beyond that. Our net spend is near zero, we have stepped up several levels but lost our best player in Kante and still not spending, it isn't about mid-table or surviving now we are beyond that. Love the way even after last season, people are harping on about how you need to buy big money signings to compete. Get over that notion. It is something that will be fizzling away over the next few years. As clubs will be searching for talent and young hungry players, much like we did last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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