davieG Posted 10 November 2016 Posted 10 November 2016 Premier League report on tickets aims to 'bust myth' over inflated prices By Bryan Swanson, Chief News Reporter, Sky Sports News HQ Last Updated: 10/11/16 6:24am Premier League tickets cost on average £31 More than half of all Premier League tickets this season will cost £30 or less, a major new report has revealed. The Premier League has investigated the overall cost of its ticket prices and allocations following a comprehensive review to 'bust some myths'. Watch Sky Sports for only £6.99. No contract For the first time, England's top 20 clubs were asked to provide full details on stadium allocations, ticket prices, sales and the availability and take up of discounts. 56% of fans attending a Premier League game will pay £30 or less this season. The report, which does not list individual clubs, has been verified by Ernst & Young, an independent firm of auditors, and reveals: Average ticket price is £31 25% cost £20 or less 49% cost £20-£40 22% £40-£60 4% £60 or more "We wanted to get the truth out there in terms of what it's actually costing people to go," Richard Scudamore, Premier League Executive Chairman, told Sky Sports News HQ. "It's all very easy to get caught up in the emotion of the highest ticket prices, but there's no other industry where you'd just pick the highest match day prices and claim those are the prices that everybody is paying. It's a much more complex issue. We wanted to do a proper study of what people are paying and get the real numbers out." Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore is keen the truth about ticket prices emerges Season ticket holders account for, on average, 71% of supporters inside Premier League stadiums. The report, which says four million tickets this season will be sold at discounted prices, also reveals the average allocation of tickets at each ground: 76% standard seats 8% away fans 8% family seats 8% hospitality In March, Premier League clubs announced a new deal for away fans, capping the price of tickets to £30 for three years, and Scudamore has ruled out introducing a cap for the game's most expensive seats. A Middlesbrough fan picks up his ticket ahead of their first game back in the Premier League "I don't think that's right," he said. "It's a very, very small percentage, 4%. We wouldn't get involved in capping home prices. It's complicated and to get involved in that level of complexity, with 20 clubs, we wouldn't do." Premier League clubs have also agreed to a new rule from next season, where at least one block of away fans must be located pitch-side at every league game. "Basically you won't be able to be stuck up in the third tier, out in the corner, if you're an away fan," Scudamore added. Leicester fans had plenty of reason to want to follow their team to Old Trafford last season, these tickets costing £30 "It's about atmosphere. One of the unique things about our game, particularly in England, is the amount of away fans and the noise they create. When an away goal is scored, you want that atmosphere and interaction between the two sets of fans." Asked whether it would raise any issues, particularly around derby games, Scudamore replied: "Not really. All those issues are managed very well now." http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/10651654/premier-league-report-on-tickets-aims-to-bust-myth-over-inflated-prices
danny. Posted 10 November 2016 Posted 10 November 2016 34 minutes ago, C-man said: Stopped reading at 'bust myth'. Fvck off. What an intelligent comment. The best way to educate and inform yourself about a situation is definitely not to read actual statistics & facts; but stop reading almost immediately, and declare "Fvck off".
C-man Posted 10 November 2016 Posted 10 November 2016 23 minutes ago, danny. said: What an intelligent comment. The best way to educate and inform yourself about a situation is definitely not to read actual statistics & facts; but stop reading almost immediately, and declare "Fvck off". The fact ticket prices are too expensive is not a myth. Anyone who has any knowledge of tickets or has opened an email from LCFC entitled 'tickets still available for X fixture' is probably aware of that fact. Hence my response. I read the headline and the fact they average £31 and my first thought was that given STHs (where prices, you'd expect, would be lower than the average of £31) account for about 75% of tickets bought, plus all away tickets that have been fixed at £30 (or lower), then that quite obviously skews what will still be a pretty damn high average matchday price. You only have to look at our matchday prices to see that they are too high and we're at the lower end ffs. Any report into them by the PL is going to be biased, irrespective of how many 'independent' professional service firms are willing to verify the data. Let's not forget the PL are paying EY to produce the report. If you're willing to insult my intelligence for not allowing myself to be brainwashed by stats deliberately chosen to make the PL look presentable then fair enough but no-one can convince me that they are fairly priced.
red5 Posted 10 November 2016 Posted 10 November 2016 How many members can get a home ticket for less than £31? I call bull-shit.
Fox92 Posted 10 November 2016 Posted 10 November 2016 Absolute rubbish. As a season ticket holder I feel value for money because I see the club charging members more than £35 to watch the likes of Burnley and Palace which is shocking. Thankfully away games are now limited to £30 and although most clubs will just charge that amount, it's still better than inconsistency and certain clubs charging £50. With all the money in the game, ticket prices should come down. They contribute how much to revenue? 5%-10%?
Kitchandro Posted 10 November 2016 Posted 10 November 2016 The average ticket. So it takes into account children's and pensioners' tickets, which will be cheaper, to skew the stats as well. So the average ticket for a full paying adult is likely to be much higher.
Danizen Posted 10 November 2016 Posted 10 November 2016 2 hours ago, Kitchandro said: The average ticket. So it takes into account children's and pensioners' tickets, which will be cheaper, to skew the stats as well. So the average ticket for a full paying adult is likely to be much higher. Single match tickets will be, but we have 23000 STHs. My season ticket works out at less than £22 a game which is a fair price, imo. Seems like some people won't be happy until every ticket is free/heavily subsidised to the point of burden.
Corky Posted 10 November 2016 Posted 10 November 2016 £31 should be one of the higher prices. But then you never have to pay these prices, Scudamore, so what the fvck would you know about it? Utter clown.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 10 November 2016 Posted 10 November 2016 2 hours ago, Danizen said: Single match tickets will be, but we have 23000 STHs. My season ticket works out at less than £22 a game which is a fair price, imo. Seems like some people won't be happy until every ticket is free/heavily subsidised to the point of burden. As long as you're OK eh Jack?
boots60 Posted 10 November 2016 Posted 10 November 2016 It were four bob in the pop when I were a lad
shiv Posted 10 November 2016 Posted 10 November 2016 14 hours ago, davieG said: Premier League report on tickets aims to 'bust myth' over inflated prices By Bryan Swanson, Chief News Reporter, Sky Sports News HQ Last Updated: 10/11/16 6:24am Premier League tickets cost on average £31 More than half of all Premier League tickets this season will cost £30 or less, a major new report has revealed. The Premier League has investigated the overall cost of its ticket prices and allocations following a comprehensive review to 'bust some myths'. Watch Sky Sports for only £6.99. No contract For the first time, England's top 20 clubs were asked to provide full details on stadium allocations, ticket prices, sales and the availability and take up of discounts. 56% of fans attending a Premier League game will pay £30 or less this season. The report, which does not list individual clubs, has been verified by Ernst & Young, an independent firm of auditors, and reveals: Average ticket price is £31 25% cost £20 or less 49% cost £20-£40 22% £40-£60 4% £60 or more "We wanted to get the truth out there in terms of what it's actually costing people to go," Richard Scudamore, Premier League Executive Chairman, told Sky Sports News HQ. "It's all very easy to get caught up in the emotion of the highest ticket prices, but there's no other industry where you'd just pick the highest match day prices and claim those are the prices that everybody is paying. It's a much more complex issue. We wanted to do a proper study of what people are paying and get the real numbers out." Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore is keen the truth about ticket prices emerges Season ticket holders account for, on average, 71% of supporters inside Premier League stadiums. The report, which says four million tickets this season will be sold at discounted prices, also reveals the average allocation of tickets at each ground: 76% standard seats 8% away fans 8% family seats 8% hospitality In March, Premier League clubs announced a new deal for away fans, capping the price of tickets to £30 for three years, and Scudamore has ruled out introducing a cap for the game's most expensive seats. A Middlesbrough fan picks up his ticket ahead of their first game back in the Premier League "I don't think that's right," he said. "It's a very, very small percentage, 4%. We wouldn't get involved in capping home prices. It's complicated and to get involved in that level of complexity, with 20 clubs, we wouldn't do." Premier League clubs have also agreed to a new rule from next season, where at least one block of away fans must be located pitch-side at every league game. "Basically you won't be able to be stuck up in the third tier, out in the corner, if you're an away fan," Scudamore added. Leicester fans had plenty of reason to want to follow their team to Old Trafford last season, these tickets costing £30 "It's about atmosphere. One of the unique things about our game, particularly in England, is the amount of away fans and the noise they create. When an away goal is scored, you want that atmosphere and interaction between the two sets of fans." Asked whether it would raise any issues, particularly around derby games, Scudamore replied: "Not really. All those issues are managed very well now." http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/10651654/premier-league-report-on-tickets-aims-to-bust-myth-over-inflated-prices Nice subliminal messaging there by Sky.
danny. Posted 11 November 2016 Posted 11 November 2016 20 hours ago, C-man said: The fact ticket prices are too expensive is not a myth. Anyone who has any knowledge of tickets or has opened an email from LCFC entitled 'tickets still available for X fixture' is probably aware of that fact. Hence my response. I read the headline and the fact they average £31 and my first thought was that given STHs (where prices, you'd expect, would be lower than the average of £31) account for about 75% of tickets bought, plus all away tickets that have been fixed at £30 (or lower), then that quite obviously skews what will still be a pretty damn high average matchday price. You only have to look at our matchday prices to see that they are too high and we're at the lower end ffs. Any report into them by the PL is going to be biased, irrespective of how many 'independent' professional service firms are willing to verify the data. Let's not forget the PL are paying EY to produce the report. If you're willing to insult my intelligence for not allowing myself to be brainwashed by stats deliberately chosen to make the PL look presentable then fair enough but no-one can convince me that they are fairly priced. You did read it then. The report's talking about the average cost of match day tickets - including the factors you have stated. Are they fairly priced? No! They are stupidly expensive - but are you suggesting they have just made up the average prices and in reality the average is far higher? I wasn't insulting your intelligence, I don't think your comment was particularly intelligent though.
GingerrrFox Posted 11 November 2016 Posted 11 November 2016 3 hours ago, danny. said: You did read it then. The report's talking about the average cost of match day tickets - including the factors you have stated. Are they fairly priced? No! They are stupidly expensive - but are you suggesting they have just made up the average prices and in reality the average is far higher? I wasn't insulting your intelligence, I don't think your comment was particularly intelligent though. Just give it up lad. You're wrong on this one.
davieG Posted 11 November 2016 Author Posted 11 November 2016 Match day ticket prices are a total rip off and a massive stain on the super rich PL clubs especially when you consider the lengths some people have to go just to get hold of one. The outrageous transfer fees, player's wages and match day ticket costs also has the affect of increasing the same in the lower leagues.
foxy boxing Posted 11 November 2016 Posted 11 November 2016 oh the days when you could get into filbert street for a fiver, times and football have certainly changed
davieG Posted 11 November 2016 Author Posted 11 November 2016 2 minutes ago, foxy boxing said: oh the days when you could get into filbert street for a fiver, times and football have certainly changed Roll up at 2.55, Park on Burnmoor St, and pay on the gate. Mind you there were only circa 10K there.
Wymsey Posted 11 November 2016 Posted 11 November 2016 A majority would probably be open to the idea of having a snack (1 item of food and drink) as part of the overall ticket price. It does make sense as the food etc alone at the King Power is quite expensive as it is in the concourses.
purpleronnie Posted 11 November 2016 Posted 11 November 2016 1 hour ago, davieG said: Roll up at 2.55, Park on Burnmoor St, and pay on the gate. Mind you there were only circa 10K there. I remember paying £2.50 at the gate in the early 90's for under 18's. Doesn't seem that long ago.
Guest Electric Yetis Posted 11 November 2016 Posted 11 November 2016 When I was 6/7 ish (91/92) my dad used to work until 3pm most Saturdays. He would regularly get home and take me down to the ground about 4:15, they used to let us in to watch the last half hour for a couple of quid. .
davieG Posted 11 November 2016 Author Posted 11 November 2016 15 minutes ago, pds said: When I was 6/7 ish (91/92) my dad used to work until 3pm most Saturdays. He would regularly get home and take me down to the ground about 4:15, they used to let us in to watch the last half hour for a couple of quid. . Some time before that they used to open the big gates and halftime and you could come and go as you please. The year before last my son turned up at half time for an evening game even with his ST and they wouldn't let him in. He had to go to the ticket office and get permission.
sylofox Posted 11 November 2016 Posted 11 November 2016 5 hours ago, foxy boxing said: oh the days when you could get into filbert street for a fiver, times and football have certainly changed You we're ripped off big time. I remember the moaning when it went upto £1 standing in pen 2. Yet if you were lucky you could get most of it back off the floor at the end. Some really generous away fans back then. Chelsi wham and Leeds seemed to be most generous iirc.
danny. Posted 11 November 2016 Posted 11 November 2016 6 hours ago, GingerrrFox said: Just give it up lad. You're wrong on this one. What exactly am I wrong about? I'm stating that the study talks average prices and price rises, not the question of whether tickets are a rip-off.
boots60 Posted 11 November 2016 Posted 11 November 2016 6 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said: A majority would probably be open to the idea of having a snack (1 item of food and drink) as part of the overall ticket price. It does make sense as the food etc alone at the King Power is quite expensive as it is in the concourses. 32,000 all trying to get a pie! Besides, the foods dreadful.
GingerrrFox Posted 11 November 2016 Posted 11 November 2016 5 hours ago, danny. said: What exactly am I wrong about? I'm stating that the study talks average prices and price rises, not the question of whether tickets are a rip-off. You don't have a clue what you're arguing about. Challsy put you in your place after you attempted to insult his intelligence and now you're spouting rubbish to try and save some face. A study funded by the Premier League is clearly going to have a positive bias, it's the same in any self driven study. When eggs were declared bad for cholesterol and not advised to consume regularly, who was it funded by? The answer is Kellogg's. It's now been shown that they manipulated the study to get the result they wanted. So people would buy and eat more cereal. That is exactly what the Premier League is doing with this study, including season tickets, concessions and elderly senior ticket prices to manipulate the average.
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