Larry_LCFC Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 Thought the atmosphere last night was the worst I've witnessed for a very long time. Seemed even L Block couldn't be arsed.
FraserSorensen Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 19 minutes ago, Finnegan said: We're two points above relegation in the league, we can't even beat WBA at home, we've played abysmally in our last couple of Champions League games We haven't beaten WBA at home since the early nineties - nothing new there. The noise when we were rock bottom of the league during (and prior to) the great escape was another level entirely. It doesn't matter to an extent how we're playing in the Champions League - we are in the Champions League! We have one more guaranteed home game - if we go out at this stage we will had four Champions League games in the history of the club, without a prospect of any more coming for the foreseeable future, if not ever. So why on earth would you not want to enjoy every minute, make some noise and back the team? Not picking entirely on you, and speaking generally, but I cannot see how any of those points would stop fans (or give them a credible reason) not to back the boys to their best ability.
Bayfox Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 27 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: We were playing great in the first half yesterday, 2-0 up and on our way to the last 16 of the Champions League, and it was still pretty flat. How do you explain that? Expectation, most I'm sure having seen the 1st game expected us to turn up roll them over, seems we have a lot with this attitude, for the 1st half we made them look like the championship standard they are, the 2nd half however we made them look like dortmund. We can discuss this to the end of time, it seems our fanbase just isn't that way inclined, lets be honest, which ever way you want to flip it CL football, under the lights a chance to qualify, playing well, no noise. 2nd Half, up against it, players maybe needed a lift, still no noise. The clappers need to **** off, but we are stuck with then, so we just have a constant, odd noise, yet can't hear a song lyric for more than 20 seconds before it gets drowned out buy a slightly louder clapper noise.
C-man Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 14 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Oh and we weren't playing great. We played better. It was OK. It was still way below our own standards. A lot of very slow, very hesitant pausing on the ball with very little intensity. You're coming up with a very narrow window as to when people may actually decide to support the team. Irrespective of how poor we've been on the pitch for a large chunk of this season, I think it's a bit sad if people aren't enthusiastic about the Club. It's still unfathomable times in our history. - One home league defeat in over a year - Still title holders - Champions League group winners People could sing if they wanted to, but they don't - their decision
Spudulike Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 Loads of fans turned up late. Nightmare traffic issues around town. I was high up between SK1 and SK2 and thought it was pretty good, to be honest. Then again, I'm usually so far into the 'zone' there could be a nuclear attack and I'd probably not notice.
Finnegan Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 I 5 minutes ago, C-man said: You're coming up with a very narrow window as to when people may actually decide to support the team. Irrespective of how poor we've been on the pitch for a large chunk of this season, I think it's a bit sad if people aren't enthusiastic about the Club. It's still unfathomable times in our history. - One home league defeat in over a year - Still title holders - Champions League group winners People could sing if they wanted to, but they don't - their decision I'm coming up with what? Last season was epic, everything about it was ridiculous, emotional, high strung, everyone was on a massive high. The atmosphere reflected that. Now people are feeling a little deflated because we've followed it up with an immensely anti-climactic start to this season. I'm not sure anyone's in any position to argue with any of that to be honest? Just by looking round this forum at all the suicide watch cases every time we concede a goal you can see people are a little dejected.
Dan Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 Not saying it was the reason it was rubbish (our fans embracing the big boy mentality is more the reason than anything) but it really is time to put the clappers away now.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 4 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I'm coming up with what? Not necessarily yourself but there always seems to be an excuse as to why we can't get involved, a few off the top of my head I can remember recently: We're playing crap so it's not exciting - I'm not going to sing (West Brom) We're winning and I'm nervous about the opposition scoring so I'm not going to sing (Last night) It's too cold (Copenhagen) It's too hot (Arsenal) We lost the last game so we're still sad about that result (Last night) There are more home fans singing so there's no point in us singing (Copenhagen) We're playing shit so the players don't deserve our support (paraphrasing here but I'm along the right lines, Watford). I think that's what C-man was referring to when he mentioned the "narrow window". And like he says, people can get involved or not it's their decision, everyone goes for different reasons at the end of the day .
yorkie1999 Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 6 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: Not saying it was the reason it was rubbish (our fans embracing the big boy mentality is more the reason than anything) but it really is time to put the clappers away now. the problem with that is that 90% of the noise is being created by the clappers. The reason people couldn't be bothered to use them last night was because they were 2 foot long and weighed half a pound.
Spudulike Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 'we're on our way' sounded great last night at the start of the second half
C-man Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 6 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I I'm coming up with what? Last season was epic, everything about it was ridiculous, emotional, high strung, everyone was on a massive high. The atmosphere reflected that. Now people are feeling a little deflated because we've followed it up with an immensely anti-climactic start to this season. I'm not sure anyone's in any position to argue with any of that to be honest? Just by looking round this forum at all the suicide watch cases every time we concede a goal you can see people are a little dejected. You said 'we're shit, we can't beat WBA at home, we've played abysmally in our last couple of CL games (still picked up 4 points btw) so people are deflated'. Sol called you on it stating fact that we were 2-0 up and about to reach the CL knockouts - not a particularly deflating turn of events - yet it was still flat. You've then said it was 'very slow, hesitant and with very little intensity'. So as long as we're somewhere between qualifying for the CL knockouts playing cavalier football and winning the league people might be not depressed enough to choose to sing? Hence my window comment. I'm not even disagreeing with you per se - I am simply saying it is a pretty pathetic and spoilt attitude to have such a sense of entitlement so prevalent amongst our support when not so long back we were on here discussing how we could get one over on Plymouth. As for suicide watch, well that just proves the point.
RonnieTodger Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 One of the best chants in big games this season has been "Stand up for the champions". Even the front rows of the east stand get involved for that, but it petered out seconds after SK1 tried to get it going. It's definitely down to us being crap at the minute. There's no doubt the atmosphere should be better. We've got no divine right to be a top club and there's an evident "can't be arsed" mindset from fans but that's usually reflective of the energy level (or lack of) on the pitch.
Finnegan Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 8 minutes ago, C-man said: You said 'we're shit, we can't beat WBA at home, we've played abysmally in our last couple of CL games (still picked up 4 points btw) so people are deflated'. Sol called you on it stating fact that we were 2-0 up and about to reach the CL knockouts - not a particularly deflating turn of events - yet it was still flat. You've then said it was 'very slow, hesitant and with very little intensity'. So as long as we're somewhere between qualifying for the CL knockouts playing cavalier football and winning the league people might be not depressed enough to choose to sing? Hence my window comment. I'm not even disagreeing with you per se - I am simply saying it is a pretty pathetic and spoilt attitude to have such a sense of entitlement so prevalent amongst our support when not so long back we were on here discussing how we could get one over on Plymouth. As for suicide watch, well that just proves the point. I'm not saying it's right or justified. I'm just saying it is. It certainly is disappointing that people only really sing when they're winning but that's largely true. Last year we were winning, everyone was high, there was noise. This year we're putting in uninspired performances and mostly losing and people are fed up and the atmosphere goes. Is that tragic? Yeah definitely. Still true.
Dan Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 22 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: the problem with that is that 90% of the noise is being created by the clappers. The reason people couldn't be bothered to use them last night was because they were 2 foot long and weighed half a pound. Everything you've just said there points to a huge flaw in our home atmosphere.
lcfcsnow Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 34 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: Not saying it was the reason it was rubbish (our fans embracing the big boy mentality is more the reason than anything) but it really is time to put the clappers away now. These new extra large ones for displays just sound like farts now, and the teams coming out to silence two matches in a row now due to having a clapper display just isn't right.
Tommeh Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 Its pretty simple for me. We thrive at being the Underdog and haven't worked out how to be motivated and keep up the support when we're not. You can probably count on one hand the good atmosphere's in the last 5 years when we've been clear favorites in a game. Probably Swansea at home last season was the best example but even then we had the no Vardy / West Ham game siege mentality in us from the week before. Porto was electric as it was our first CL home game, a new experience against a big European name, and crucially we didn't expect to roll them over. Copenhagen dropped off slightly due to us thinking 'ah we should be beating these' and last night worse still - It's a huge shame but when people approach the game and view Brugge as a 'championship side' the atmosphere is going to reflect just that, and it did. In short expectation kills everything.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 12 minutes ago, Tommeh said: Its pretty simple for me. We thrive at being the Underdog and haven't worked out how to be motivated and keep up the support when we're not. You can probably count on one hand the good atmosphere's in the last 5 years when we've been clear favorites in a game. Probably Swansea at home last season was the best example but even then we had the no Vardy / West Ham game siege mentality in us from the week before. Porto was electric as it was our first CL home game, a new experience against a big European name, and crucially we didn't expect to roll them over. Copenhagen dropped off slightly due to us thinking 'ah we should be beating these' and last night worse still - It's a huge shame but when people approach the game and view Brugge as a 'championship side' the atmosphere is going to reflect just that, and it did. In short expectation kills everything.
Dan Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 31 minutes ago, Tommeh said: Its pretty simple for me. We thrive at being the Underdog and haven't worked out how to be motivated and keep up the support when we're not. You can probably count on one hand the good atmosphere's in the last 5 years when we've been clear favorites in a game. Probably Swansea at home last season was the best example but even then we had the no Vardy / West Ham game siege mentality in us from the week before. Porto was electric as it was our first CL home game, a new experience against a big European name, and crucially we didn't expect to roll them over. Copenhagen dropped off slightly due to us thinking 'ah we should be beating these' and last night worse still - It's a huge shame but when people approach the game and view Brugge as a 'championship side' the atmosphere is going to reflect just that, and it did. In short expectation kills everything. That's all spot on but I still don't think it makes it any more acceptable. But using that logic our last 16 game ought to be brilliant, especially with the home leg 2nd. Imagine if it's Real Madrid and we've lost the first leg 2-1.
SemperEadem Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 1 hour ago, lcfcsnow said: These new extra large ones for displays just sound like farts now, and the teams coming out to silence two matches in a row now due to having a clapper display just isn't right. They could perhaps open their mouths and make noise?
yorkie1999 Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 2 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: Everything you've just said there points to a huge flaw in our home atmosphere. Yes, there is. The lads that are influential to the atmosphere, let's face it kids and oaps are not really responsible for instigating this sort of stuff, are simply not their in large enough numbers. The only way to improve on the atmosphere is to artificially create one, like palace. A decent song would be a start. And before anyone suggests we have one i.e. WYS, well here's a bit of news, it ain't taking off because a) if it was everyone would join in and b) it's sh*t.
EnglishOxide Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 I noticed Fuchs tried to gee up the east stand yesterday. It's got so bad that the players are asking for more.
blue army 1988 Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 Tuesday evening games are always low in atmosphere. Always have been since I can remember.
Voll Blau Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 5 minutes ago, blue army 1988 said: Tuesday evening games are always low in atmosphere. Always have been since I can remember. You cant remember two months ago? 12 minutes ago, EnglishOxide said: I noticed Fuchs tried to gee up the east stand yesterday. It's got so bad that the players are asking for more. Same thing happened with Vardy at Arsenal away last year. Embarrassing.
blue army 1988 Posted 23 November 2016 Posted 23 November 2016 4 minutes ago, Voll Blau said: You cant remember two months ago? Same thing happened with Vardy at Arsenal away last year. Embarrassing. Yeah I remember two months ago. I also remember all the other times we've played on a weekday evening from championship, league 1 and premier league. Still was a little lethargic and no where near as good as a Saturday 3pm kick off. Evening games are always going to have less atmosphere due to the time it's kicked off for one reason or another.
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