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Posted
10 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Not necessarily, he may have just had an arrhythmia which is a problem with heart rhythm which a defib can treat. Fingers crossed.

 

That might be true. I've twice almost had defibrillation due to arrhythmias, but first time the rhythm self-corrected and second time they opted for a minor op instead.

However, defibrillation for arrhythmias is usually pre-planned, not done in an emergency.

 

If they used a defibrillator in an emergency like this, it may be that his heart stopped briefly. That doesn't necessarily do any damage so long as it is restarted within a few minutes.

If his heart did stop (and I have no information about this), then he's been very, very lucky that it occurred at a public event where they had a defibrillator - and not on his own at home or something.

 

I'm glad that it sounds as if he's OK, anyway. He's quite cheesy, but I like a bit of cheese and he seems like a nice bloke who does a lot of good.

Part of the match-day furniture, too - and he's even stopped saying "Enjoy!" before the players come out...that used to wind me up. Get well soon, Birch!

Posted
21 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

meme

I think they've cured the haemorrhoids.

 

 

 

 

 

Glad to wake up to better news about him.

 

You don't realise how much he'll be missed until there's a possibility he might not be here any longer.

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Guest seanfox778
Posted

Literally can't remember a home game when he wasn't there talking on the mic. Everyone loves Birch, hope he pulls through.

Guest CityFan 06
Posted (edited)

It's been quite hard hitting this morning reading about Birch being taken into hospital. I hope our club legend makes a quick and full recovery. 

 

I was only saying yesterday how well he rallies the crowd pre-match at home games. We need to carry that on tomorrow. 

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Posted

He'll be investigating the possibility of doing his match day duties via skype and the scoreboard screens for tomorrow. Things have moved on since Brian Hamiltons motivational audio tapes played before games!

Posted
1 minute ago, ARM1968 said:

Ought to have defibrillators on all planes too. 

 

I think most do, although I'm not sure if it is a requirement. Unfortunately not all cardiac arrests can be reversed with defibrillation, which  is why CPR remains so crucial. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Bryn said:

If it is indeed the case that he suffered a heart attack leading to cardiac arrest and was defibrillated, it really emphasises the value of widely accessible and easy to use defibrillator kits. 

 

When circulation is interrupted, time is tissue,  that is to say brain cells and heart muscle. Effective CPR can prolong the period before irreversible and fatal damage is done dramatically but shocking someone out of cardiac arrest rapidly has potentially amazing outcomes. If he went down like that in his own home, he would probably have died.  I remember when I read that Carrie Fisher had been taken ill, I knew her  chances were so slim in that setting. 

 

I suppose the message is it is worth knowing where the defibrillator is in your place of work and how to operate it. If you don't have one I'd campaign to get one. And I'd jump at the chance to learn basic life support skills. 

We have one in the school where i work. I did the training on it and it really is a foolproof bit of kit. It won't deliver a shock if the patient isn't in the right cardiac state, so there is no fear of fitting it to the patient and hitting the go button, you simply can't deliver an unnecessary shock. It also talks to you while you go through the process. 

Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, Al-aLondon-Foxile said:

We have one in the school where i work. I did the training on it and it really is a foolproof bit of kit. It won't deliver a shock if the patient isn't in the right cardiac state, so there is no fear of fitting it to the patient and hitting the go button, you simply can't deliver an unnecessary shock. It also talks to you while you go through the process. 

 

Yep, they're brilliant. I'm a doctor and in most cases I'd still stick the defibrillator into automatic mode, it's a frantic situation and it adds a measure of calm. In most contexts I wouldn't need the manual features. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Firegrande said:

Quick update.

 

He's still in a stable condition, he's conscious and is talking.

 

 

He's The Birch - I strongly suspect he was probably still talking even when he was unconscious?

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Posted
1 hour ago, seanfox778 said:

Literally can't remember a home game when he wasn't there talking on the mic. Everyone loves Birch, hope he pulls through.

Not one to be pedantic (That's a lie) but they don't let him for champs league if I remember rightly.

Posted
1 hour ago, Bryn said:

If it is indeed the case that he suffered a heart attack leading to cardiac arrest and was defibrillated, it really emphasises the value of widely accessible and easy to use defibrillator kits. 

 

When circulation is interrupted, time is tissue,  that is to say brain cells and heart muscle. Effective CPR can prolong the period before irreversible and fatal damage is done dramatically but shocking someone out of cardiac arrest rapidly has potentially amazing outcomes. If he went down like that in his own home, he would probably have died.  I remember when I read that Carrie Fisher had been taken ill, I knew her  chances were so slim in that setting. 

 

I suppose the message is it is worth knowing where the defibrillator is in your place of work and how to operate it. If you don't have one I'd campaign to get one. And I'd jump at the chance to learn basic life support skills. 

This sort of stuff brings back a really grim time for me when I was playing 5 a side and one of the guys collapsed. Even with 3 trained first aiders and a defib he didn't survive the poor guy.

 

Sounds like the Birch was so so lucky, especially when you look at Graeme Taylor. If it was a heart attack and this happened anywhere else he probably wouldn't still be with us.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Come on birch we've got Chelsea tomorrow, you don't get out of that easily.

 

He played for Chelsea as well as LCFC, didn't he?

 

Any mention of him should get a good response tomorrow. 

Posted
Just now, Alf Bentley said:

 

He played for Chelsea as well as LCFC, didn't he?

 

Any mention of him should get a good response tomorrow. 

Yes he did, a nice tribute needed.

Posted
4 hours ago, Happy Fox said:

Get well soon Birch, he is a incredible person and is the heartbeat of our club for his work off the pitch.

 

Glenfield will get him back up to full speed in no time, my father works there.

Oh my god, is your name Madeleine?

Posted

So hoping no real recent news is good news.

We are all rooting for you Birch. Just think about the great escape you can do it too.

 

FA cup and CL to fight for. All the best.

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