Izzy Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 2 minutes ago, tom27111 said: I was thinking the same. It was a bit of a novelty for us after what we achieved last year. It was good from the financial point of view, but detrimental to the fitness of the squad early in the season. This year, a week in Austria or Sweden and some local games will set us up nicely. Yes, it was a novelty and something we'll be proud of competing in when we're bottom half of league one in a few years But I've said all season that I thought too much was made of our poor start being attributed to playing in the ICC. The other PL teams that played in it didn't suffer like us, and maybe our slow start and poor form wasn't actually down to this at all. And maybe it also wasn't about poor signings, long haul travel, overpaid players or all the other excuses churned out. Maybe it was all just about Claudio....
Hollism Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 Burton away is the only pre season game that matters. Shove your Barcelona up your arse
Kitchandro Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 3 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Yes, it was a novelty and something we'll be proud of competing in when we're bottom half of league one in a few years But I've said all season that I thought too much was made of our poor start being attributed to playing in the ICC. The other PL teams that played in it didn't suffer like us, and maybe our slow start and poor form wasn't actually down to this at all. And maybe it also wasn't about poor signings, long haul travel, overpaid players or all the other excuses churned out. Maybe it was all just about Claudio.... It definitely wouldn't have helped. We certainly didn't look fit early on. Plus getting thrashed hardly helps confidence. I was proud of us being in the Champions League because we qualified for it, but I don't need Americans to tell us we're important.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 7 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Yes, it was a novelty and something we'll be proud of competing in when we're bottom half of league one in a few years But I've said all season that I thought too much was made of our poor start being attributed to playing in the ICC. The other PL teams that played in it didn't suffer like us, and maybe our slow start and poor form wasn't actually down to this at all. And maybe it also wasn't about poor signings, long haul travel, overpaid players or all the other excuses churned out. Maybe it was all just about Claudio.... I love the positive undertones Izzy
Trav Le Bleu Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 9 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Yes, it was a novelty and something we'll be proud of competing in when we're bottom half of league one in a few years But I've said all season that I thought too much was made of our poor start being attributed to playing in the ICC. The other PL teams that played in it didn't suffer like us, and maybe our slow start and poor form wasn't actually down to this at all. And maybe it also wasn't about poor signings, long haul travel, overpaid players or all the other excuses churned out. Maybe it was all just about Claudio.... WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT!
Magnificent Flannel Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 Good, better off playing Notts County, Peterborough etc and the Austrian training camp.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 11 minutes ago, Hollism said: Burton away is the only pre season game that matters. Shove your Barcelona up your arse Some people might enjoy that, especially the Sagrada Famalia.
MarriedaLeicesterGirl Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 10 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Yes, it was a novelty and something we'll be proud of competing in when we're bottom half of league one in a few years But I've said all season that I thought too much was made of our poor start being attributed to playing in the ICC. The other PL teams that played in it didn't suffer like us, and maybe our slow start and poor form wasn't actually down to this at all. And maybe it also wasn't about poor signings, long haul travel, overpaid players or all the other excuses churned out. Maybe it was all just about Claudio.... I think the scheduling hurt us: If it had been three games in the US, giving the team a chance to camp out, and also play some MLS/even shoddier US teams between the big boys... Also, we had probably the smallest squad in the tournament. We were playing Barcelona's youth squad in the second half. Even without the ICC, I don't understand the size of the first team squad at the beginning of the season...no cover at all at CB or RB, when playing in the CL. There was a lot about last summer that was odd.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 It would be so Leicester to now go and do the unthinkable and win the fkn Champion's League and see one motherfkr of a U Turn from them and we stick the vs up! Think I'm at bit p****d
Bryn Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 I guess it's slightly embarrassing but it can only be good for us on the pitch, last preseason was a joke.
HybridFox Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 Good one-off experience last year but history tells us we're better off playing the likes of Rotherham and Lincoln. Chance to get our fitness levels up and experiment with formations and players. Rather than chasing games all pre season that we're expected to lose anyway Have that one glamour home friendly at the end maybe
Guest Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 48 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Hark at us lot How much we've changed in the last 12 months.... Easy in hindsight to say the ICC is a load of bollux, but I remember the uncontrollable excitement on here when we were invited to play in it. Now we're happy to bin in off and go back to local non league pre season friendlies. Makes me chuckle that's all... Thankfully I was clearly on record as being against this back then as well; my conscience is clean AGAINST MODERN FOOTBALL
The Doctor Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 40 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Yes, it was a novelty and something we'll be proud of competing in when we're bottom half of league one in a few years But I've said all season that I thought too much was made of our poor start being attributed to playing in the ICC. The other PL teams that played in it didn't suffer like us, and maybe our slow start and poor form wasn't actually down to this at all. And maybe it also wasn't about poor signings, long haul travel, overpaid players or all the other excuses churned out. Maybe it was all just about Claudio.... In fairness those sides are used to playing global tours, and even then they were usually based around one continent. We went Glasgow-LA-Stockholm in the course of 10 days. That sort of long haul travelling and little time to train is not a good thing. If we'd had three games in that tournament based entirely in, say, China, and had it almost as part training camp then I doubt we'd have had so much trouble with fitness at the start of the season.
mozartfox Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 Yep friendlies against lower league opposition such as Forest and Derby giving their fans the chance to see much better teams in the flesh, is the least we can do.
Izzy Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 5 minutes ago, The Doctor said: In fairness those sides are used to playing global tours, and even then they were usually based around one continent. We went Glasgow-LA-Stockholm in the course of 10 days. That sort of long haul travelling and little time to train is not a good thing. If we'd had three games in that tournament based entirely in, say, China, and had it almost as part training camp then I doubt we'd have had so much trouble with fitness at the start of the season. You're probably right, but it still all feels like a convenient excuse to me. These players are finely tuned athletes who travel first class with no expense spared. Most of them are also internationals who are used to long haul flights then returning days later for big games. And are we really saying that playing in the ICC meant we did no pre season training at all? We fvcked up away at Hull and then it all went downhill after that. Were the players really that unfit, or did the Claudio factor kick in much earlier that we all thought? I dunno, just putting it out there...
Benguin Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 Part of the reason we have struggled this year. Lets have some league 1 and two teams please for pre season.
Tuna Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 They are welcome to it. It's contributed to our poor season. Not interested.
deccers Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 While I don't doubt the ability of our coaching staff to adapt methods to long haul pre-season tours, the benefits are obvious from a low-key austrian pre-season. We were clearly off the pace against Hull first off and while there's no way you can blame the pre-season for results 2 months in when you've caught up, it was definitely a factor in those early sluggish games.
The whole world smiles Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 Yeah it was absolute bollocks and not good prep for the seasons at all. However as a fan it was great to have all the pre season games live on sky and also the awayday in Glasgow was superb. Glasgow is a hell of a town ???
Koke Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 Man City did the ICC and their fitness levels was normal. They started the season on fire.
Finnegan Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 4 minutes ago, Koke said: Man City did the ICC and their fitness levels was normal. They started the season on fire. Yeah but this sort of corporate obligation was completely new to us and we clearly didn't prepare well. I don't think the amount of travelling involved is ever the optimal approach to pre season but I don't doubt it can be done well. But our approach was definitely poor and our commitments to the ICC clearly didn't help.
fuchsntf Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 28 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said: You're probably right, but it still all feels like a convenient excuse to me. These players are finely tuned athletes who travel first class with no expense spared. Most of them are also internationals who are used to long haul flights then returning days later for big games. And are we really saying that playing in the ICC meant we did no pre season training at all? We fvcked up away at Hull and then it all went downhill after that. Were the players really that unfit, or did the Claudio factor kick in much earlier that we all thought? I dunno, just putting it out there... I dont buy this twaddle either. Top clubs and players travel the world over, UK teams in the past for World club championship during the season...I actually didnt agree with last summers games, but not because I was worried about fitness, or travel weaknesses, or stress. Like you mention the Claudio factor, with his backroom changes , and proposed tactical changes, might of already put the fuse of doubt within and Playing on the players mental approach and putting an imbalance On their strengths. One thought that has followed me since xmas of 2015 was.. ."did Claudio ever really know, realise or acknowledge what group of players he really had"..?? .
henry56 Posted 11 March 2017 Posted 11 March 2017 Mahrez and Slimani wouldn't be allowed in so shouldnt go anyway
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