AKCJ Posted 27 March 2017 Posted 27 March 2017 10 minutes ago, Matt said: It wasn't even that much was it? It was £20m and which triggered the release clause and allowed him to speak to Arsenal. Just had a look back and it looks like you're right. Not sure why I thought 25m.
The whole world smiles Posted 27 March 2017 Posted 27 March 2017 On 27/03/2017 at 15:37, Woof said: According to the Mercury there is no release clause in his contract, so perhaps we are getting excited about nothing. Shock Rudkin out!
Babylon Posted 27 March 2017 Posted 27 March 2017 2 hours ago, AKCJ said: Wasn't that more that we just accepted 25m for him and that it was his choice? No... release clause.
Babylon Posted 27 March 2017 Posted 27 March 2017 2 hours ago, Webbo said: Who you have refused to sign him if he insisted on a RC? I'm not the one sat in the discussions, but at some point I would make a stand against them. The agents all talk, if one club gets a rep for being a walk over then they will all just take the p*** at any opportunity.
Webbo Posted 27 March 2017 Posted 27 March 2017 5 minutes ago, Babylon said: I'm not the one sat in the discussions, but at some point I would make a stand against them. The agents all talk, if one club gets a rep for being a walk over then they will all just take the p*** at any opportunity. Simple yes or no. Would you have signed Gray if he'd insisted on a RC?
JayPittardBlueatheart Posted 27 March 2017 Posted 27 March 2017 2 hours ago, Webbo said: Simple yes or no. Would you have signed Gray if he'd insisted on a RC? Replace Gray with Kante!
Vardinio'sCat Posted 27 March 2017 Posted 27 March 2017 Much ado about nothing... Didn't Top say something about how there aren't many/any release clauses last season? I can't quite remember, but it was something like that.
The People's Hero Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 8 hours ago, Vardinio'sCat said: Much ado about nothing... Didn't Top say something about how there aren't many/any release clauses last season? I can't quite remember, but it was something like that. Something like that but unless gray has signed a new contract since Jan or his agent doesn't know the contract, then we can assume there is one in there.
Babylon Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 13 hours ago, Webbo said: Simple yes or no. Would you have signed Gray if he'd insisted on a RC? How can I possibly answer that question without being involved in all negotiations across multiple players contracts, as I've already said at some point I would have have to start saying no. But if it makes you feel better, presuming it was becoming a trend in negotiations I would have said no and leave it down to them to decide if they want a huge payrise and to move to a team top of the league. If they don't come, then you have to wonder about their commitment.
Webbo Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 4 hours ago, Babylon said: How can I possibly answer that question without being involved in all negotiations across multiple players contracts, as I've already said at some point I would have have to start saying no. But if it makes you feel better, presuming it was becoming a trend in negotiations I would have said no and leave it down to them to decide if they want a huge payrise and to move to a team top of the league. If they don't come, then you have to wonder about their commitment. Well I don't know why a young Birmingham City player, from Birmingham would be committed to Leicester before he's signed for us. As for "How can I possibly answer that question without being involved in all negotiations across multiple players contracts," that's the same for all of us, so why are some people so quick to condemn?
Babylon Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 13 minutes ago, Webbo said: Well I don't know why a young Birmingham City player, from Birmingham would be committed to Leicester before he's signed for us. I'm talking long term, requesting such a low buyout clause would suggest someone planning their next move already. "that's the same for all of us, so why are some people so quick to condemn?" Because it's not the norm, lets presume it's true for one moment, three players with release clauses in this country and losing them below their true value would be almost unheard of.
Webbo Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 1 minute ago, Babylon said: I'm talking long term, requesting such a low buyout clause would suggest someone planning their next move already. "that's the same for all of us, so why are some people so quick to condemn?" Because it's not the norm, lets presume it's true for one moment, three players with release clauses in this country and losing them below their true value would be almost unheard of. Do you think a player who rates his own ability and thinks he can make it to the top would want to commit his future to Leicester for the rest of his career? Obviously he wants to play for a top team and win medals. Okay he won a PL medal with us, but that was far from certain at the time he signed.
Babylon Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 Just now, Webbo said: Do you think a player who rates his own ability and thinks he can make it to the top would want to commit his future to Leicester for the rest of his career? Obviously he wants to play for a top team and win medals. Okay he won a PL medal with us, but that was far from certain at the time he signed. Of course not, but it should be a commitment to the length of the contract they sign and if they go before they it should be on our terms and not ones they've pre written into their contract.
AlbertFox Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 On 27 March 2017 at 12:59, Gerard said: I guess it's all part of the negotiating, we might have signed Gray on £12k a week and he wants a release fee of £12m to sign that. If we offered £20k a week then he'd be happy not to have a release fee. Perhaps we like to pay lesser wages and offer more incentives on lower clauses? Agreed - and with the year on year wage increase restrictions under financial fair play, perhaps the only way we were guaranteed to sign him was with a release clause and the intention of offering a new contract at the end of this season with a more realistic figure and a higher wage.
Guest Col city fan Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 I never thought for one moment that Gray would see City as anything other than a stepping stone. I would imagine he's actually very peed off that he doesn't start regularly. I think he's a good player. I also imagine that he thinks he's better than he actually is.
WigstonWanderer Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 1 hour ago, AlbertFox said: Agreed - and with the year on year wage increase restrictions under financial fair play, perhaps the only way we were guaranteed to sign him was with a release clause and the intention of offering a new contract at the end of this season with a more realistic figure and a higher wage. Good point.
m4DD0gg Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 Not sure how the mercury would know this, their editors dont even know what day it is.
foxinsocks Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 20 hours ago, Webbo said: Simple yes or no. Would you have signed Gray if he'd insisted on a RC? No.... by agreeing we are accepting a limit on our profit and allowing others to undermine our squad. Unless there are exceptional circumstances it's a no from me. Grey has potential. ... yet he needs to work hard at his game. He will suceed imo. But we wont get the benefit. Better to invest our time in someone we can rely on
fuchsntf Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 Club and Player, can still say ....NO. The buyout and release clauses have not yet been really contested, in arbitration in the PL. It just means at the moment, the owner club has to agree with opening up negotiations for the player, and 'Should 'accept if player agrees and all terms are met. I believe Suarez to Arsenal was the nearest, to anything that might of become contentional. liverpool said No, Suarez didnt seem bothered, Arsenal didnt take it further. I reckon if one buys a young potentially good player, its prudent to put a release Clause in. Buy someone for 1mil, and put on lets say 12mil as the RC, means no loss, plus you still havent lost a player until he says yes, I want to go.. I as a fan, if someone like Gray gets itchy feet, before hes served up the hard graft and days, then we get the pennies...If we arent good at persuading a young man who hasnt yet blown us away, to stay a couple more seasons... We dont deserve to compete with the big boys..
AmarteyAndChill Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 2 hours ago, m4DD0gg said: Not sure how the mercury would know this, their editors dont even know what day it is. It was tan doggy dog
Webbo Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 2 hours ago, foxinsocks said: No.... by agreeing we are accepting a limit on our profit and allowing others to undermine our squad. Unless there are exceptional circumstances it's a no from me. Grey has potential. ... yet he needs to work hard at his game. He will suceed imo. But we wont get the benefit. Better to invest our time in someone we can rely on We get the benefit of him playing in our team and the benefit of selling him for a profit. If we didn't sign him we wouldn't get either.
foxinsocks Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 12 hours ago, Webbo said: We get the benefit of him playing in our team and the benefit of selling him for a profit. If we didn't sign him we wouldn't get either. We could have spent the money and time on a player who cant have his head turned as soon as he shows some form. I am not saying there aren't situations where we might agree a rc... but our normal position should be no. Otherwise our team can be picked off leaving us to cope... like when kante left
The_77 Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 I'VE HAD IT WITH THESE FVCKING BUY-OUT CLAUSES!!!!! Started by Triggered, Saturday at 18:51
sylofox Posted 30 March 2017 Posted 30 March 2017 16 hours ago, car1os said: Just wondering... does Musa have a release clause? Yes we have to pay 5m to anyone that signs him
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