mozartfox Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 yellow card offence, perceived as 'I un-gentlemanly conduct.. But Ok with EUFA as they cannot have a team like Leicester gracing the final of their Flagship competition.
mozartfox Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 May be the Tifo should be just red and yellow? Then as each dive is acted out or foul is committed, the fans can choose to hold up either yellow or red. Must stop Madrid from trying it on again in the second leg.
Koke Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 47 minutes ago, ZeGuy said: Can't believe how many here are wound up about such a small issue, some going as far as calling them "spanish dogs" (Brillant. Simeone is argentine by the way). It's as if people watched a football game for the first time. Vardy provoked Nasri and got him off. He dives all the time. His game is dirty. No one likes him outside Leicester. Does it make him a bad player? No. He's a very good forward who brings a lot of pressure on a defense, partly because of his behavior. It belongs to football, always did. Just like diving, provoking, insulting other players etc. You see it every day or you didn't really paid attention. Anyone who thinks football is fair, is deluded. It's a war and TV don't show half of the dirty stuff happening on the pitch. Simeone is a brillant coach, Athletico a great team. Hopefully we'll beat them, no matter what it takes. The real cvnt here is the ref. 100% I'm surprised by the reaction on here as if this was the first ever football match they have watched. Players cheat, dive, feign injury, time wasting, surround the ref, influence the ref etc but when the manager do it's suddenly a big deal. Vardy diving and cheating = part of the game. Simeone waving imaginary cards = a disgrace. Atleti are a great team and Simeone is a great coach. The ref was a cvnt but that's not Atleti fault.
Nalis Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 Honest q. Can anyone confirm if waving an imaginary card is still a bookable offence? It defintely was in the past at all levels and I thought it still was until this champions league campaign. I'm assuming it isnt as its never been punished in this campaign Any referees about such as @DB11 who are able to confirm either way?
truebluethroughandthrough Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 13 hours ago, stevelcfc said: We need to be the ones influencing the ref on Tuesday, screaming for absolutely everything. Although this is exactly what I will be doing personally, I fear it will not help one iota. The reason being UEFA. The most corrupt organisation on the face of the planet will absolutely not want little Leicester to win their most prestigious, most viewed, most revered club competition in world football. Thats why we have to stand together in full support on Tuesday and be proud of what we have achieved over the past 18 months/3 years. It should never of happened. For a club our size, it will never again. Which is why we have to seize our chance. And seize it we will...
Fox92 Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 Waving for cards is trying to get another player booked. So is diving. Or trying to win penalties. Mahrez blatantly dived last night. If we get a penalty for that, their player is booked and it's no less of a 'disgrace' than waving cards about.
ZeGuy Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 20 minutes ago, truebluethroughandthrough said: Although this is exactly what I will be doing personally, I fear it will not help one iota. The reason being UEFA. The most corrupt organisation on the face of the planet will absolutely not want little Leicester to win their most prestigious, most viewed, most revered club competition in world football. Thats why we have to stand together in full support on Tuesday and be proud of what we have achieved over the past 18 months/3 years. It should never of happened. For a club our size, it will never again. Which is why we have to seize our chance. And seize it we will... Please let's not begin with the conspiracy theory.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 There is an opportunity here for Shakes to create a psychological advantage for us, by commenting on this 'disappointing tactic'by Athletics Madrid players and staff in the pre-match press conference coming up to the return leg. Have this topic in the minds of UEFA and the referee at the time of the game and ensure your own players don't wave those imganiery cards.
Koke Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 1 hour ago, truebluethroughandthrough said: Although this is exactly what I will be doing personally, I fear it will not help one iota. The reason being UEFA. The most corrupt organisation on the face of the planet will absolutely not want little Leicester to win their most prestigious, most viewed, most revered club competition in world football. Thats why we have to stand together in full support on Tuesday and be proud of what we have achieved over the past 18 months/3 years. It should never of happened. For a club our size, it will never again. Which is why we have to seize our chance. And seize it we will... Let's not sound whiny small time muppets like Man City fans. We've had pretty good refs in most our CL games. It was a bad mistake last night but that's all it was.
Finnaldo Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 1 minute ago, Koke said: Let's not sound whiny small time muppets like Man City fans. We've had pretty good refs in most our CL games. It was a bad mistake last night but that's all it was. Compounded by several other smaller but still terrible decisions. Not saying the referee was bought by Atletico, or that we should re-enact some cringey Man City-esque protest, but he gave Atletico a much larger benefit of the doubt.
truebluethroughandthrough Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 1 hour ago, ZeGuy said: Please let's not begin with the conspiracy theory. absolutely no theory involved. UEFA are and have and will always be corrupt.
truebluethroughandthrough Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 26 minutes ago, Koke said: Let's not sound whiny small time muppets like Man City fans. We've had pretty good refs in most our CL games. It was a bad mistake last night but that's all it was. I'm not particularly bothered what you or anyone else thinks I sound like. I have now seen 3 games against a team over 20 years. In over 40 years of following my team, these 3 referees have not only been the worst but downright dishonest and corrupt. And as whiny as that may sound to you, why don't you ask a representative of UEFA why the ref involved in 97, never officiated another single game? But I suppose that was pure coincidence....lol Fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice......
Lovejoy Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 If it were us performing such antics and we won 1-0 thanks to a bad refereeing decision and disrupted the game like their antics did, who would honestly care? If you can get away with it, do it if it means winning. Everyone hates us already so it wouldn't make any difference in that regard .
yorkie1999 Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 the only problem i have against it is in 2 leg games when the team doing it are obviously targeting players so they miss the 2nd leg, which is a bit unsporting.
ZeGuy Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 45 minutes ago, truebluethroughandthrough said: absolutely no theory involved. UEFA are and have and will always be corrupt. ... and want leicester's head. Prove it.
truebluethroughandthrough Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 44 minutes ago, ZeGuy said: ... and want leicester's head. Prove it. I didn't suggest for one minute they want 'our head'. i simply suggested they are the most corrupt of all governing bodies in sport. And they are. There have been more investigations of corruption into FIFA and UEFA officials then most could count. Their own ambassador has been dismissed for wrongdoing. Do you really think an organisation of that magnitude that has already been proven to be corrupt has no influence on the refs it CHOOSES to officiate certain matches. I have watched plenty of UEFA officials over the years to know this to be obvious in a handful of matches. The problem is we become so accustomed to it we just say the ref had a bad game, and sure they do. Its only human error. But this is only relevant if it's one or two big decisions that were wrong, not dozens. And if it's obvious that one side are being punished more so than their opponent for the same crime, that for me, is a sign of potential corruption. I absolutely believe Atletico deserved their win, no doubt. They may well paste us with the most bipartisan ref in world football, and that would easier to take. I will still be immensely proud, i will still also know that UEFA is a corrupt institution set up originally to govern but now essentially holds football back, why do you think video technology is used already in every other major sport that it's required, but not football??? One word- control.
KansasFox Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 3 hours ago, truebluethroughandthrough said: Although this is exactly what I will be doing personally, I fear it will not help one iota. The reason being UEFA. The most corrupt organisation on the face of the planet will absolutely not want little Leicester to win their most prestigious, most viewed, most revered club competition in world football. Thats why we have to stand together in full support on Tuesday and be proud of what we have achieved over the past 18 months/3 years. It should never of happened. For a club our size, it will never again. Which is why we have to seize our chance. And seize it we will... Don't agree with that kind of conspiracy theory at all. The big clubs may have an advantage, but it is just because they are 'street smart', they've got the experience of these games and that cannot be underestimated. I actually think UEFA would love for us to be in the final... even win it. It would generate huge interest as a story and that can only be good for them. Also the new President has made it clear he does not like the dominating influence of the huge clubs. Leicester winning would be ammunition for him in preventing a big club breakaway, certainly in terms of popular opinion.
jayfox26 Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 Yeh it really annoys me, it's blatant cheating and very bad sportsmanship. For me, it should be OK for the captain to have a word if a bad foul has been committed, but waving imaginary cards is pathetic. It's common practice in la liga though. If I was a player and another player deliberately tried to get me sent off/banned for the 2nd leg (like they did with vardy) I'd go all Wasilewski on them! Cuntish behaviour and it should be outlawed.
jayfox26 Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 Simeone clearly went to the Mourinho school of how to be a total bell end on the touchline. Very good manager and I have full respect for what he's done at Atletico but the guy really is a c u n t
fuchsntf Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 3 hours ago, truebluethroughandthrough said: Although this is exactly what I will be doing personally, I fear it will not help one iota. The reason being UEFA. The most corrupt organisation on the face of the planet will absolutely not want little Leicester to win their most prestigious, most viewed, most revered club competition in world football. Thats why we have to stand together in full support on Tuesday and be proud of what we have achieved over the past 18 months/3 years. It should never of happened. For a club our size, it will never again. Which is why we have to seize our chance. And seize it we will... I totally disagree...UEFA like c any organisation has its problems, and with members also being fans, there will always be partial bias. That said IMO I believe UEFA would love it if Leicester Won it, what a way to sell their product and get the minions and rich also rans really interested, not forgetting the rich lower Level sponsors Into the game
truebluethroughandthrough Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 17 minutes ago, KansasFox said: Don't agree with that kind of conspiracy theory at all. The big clubs may have an advantage, but it is just because they are 'street smart', they've got the experience of these games and that cannot be underestimated. I actually think UEFA would love for us to be in the final... even win it. It would generate huge interest as a story and that can only be good for them. Also the new President has made it clear he does not like the dominating influence of the huge clubs. Leicester winning would be ammunition for him in preventing a big club breakaway, certainly in terms of popular opinion. I respect the point you're making but two things. 1. There was never going to be a breakaway league, this was a motivational tactic to find a solution for the giants of European football, and it worked as to the rules regarding the coefficient. 2. I do not believe the new president to be corrupt, just the organisation he leads. The corruption that's been there since the seventies is the same as now, which is inevitable in a public funded organisation that repeatedly chooses its own leadership . In time maybe the new regime will introduce a new transparency and video technology to UEFA. But clubs and players should all choose or elect who we want to be our representatives, not the FA, not FIFA, and not ****ing UEFA.
KansasFox Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 1 minute ago, truebluethroughandthrough said: I respect the point you're making but two things. 1. There was never going to be a breakaway league, this was a motivational tactic to find a solution for the giants of European football, and it worked as regarding to the rules regarding the coefficient. 2. I do not believe the new president to be corrupt, just the organisation he leads. The corruption that's been there since the seventies is the same as now, which is inevitable in a public funded organisation that repeatedly chooses its own leadership . In time maybe the new regime will introduce a new transparency and video technology to UEFA. But clubs and players should all choose or elect who we want to be our representatives, not the FA, not FIFA, and not ****ing UEFA I would pretty much agree with those points, I still think his hand would be strengthened regarding point one. Point 2, I'm sure there is corruption, just also confident it is to the extent they would cheat Leicester out of the competition. Last nights refereeing was a frustrating standard, but reflected incompetence and weakness, not corruption in my opinion.
truebluethroughandthrough Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 1 minute ago, KansasFox said: I would pretty much agree with those points, I still think his hand would be strengthened regarding point one. Point 2, I'm sure there is corruption, just also confident it is to the extent they would cheat Leicester out of the competition. Last nights refereeing was a frustrating standard, but reflected incompetence and weakness, not corruption in my opinion. You seem far too sensible for me mate !! I'm still seething. It took me several days to calm down in 97, I'm not quite that pissed off. Always been the same for me though, can handle losses, thrashings even, but to see every decision going against you is more disheartening than seeing Tony Spearing warming up on the touchline....
UniFox21 Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 Honestly lost so much respect for Athletico last night, they're a great team so why lower themselves to signalling for cards and falling over easily?
Thracian Posted 13 April 2017 Posted 13 April 2017 18 hours ago, tom27111 said: It's punishable by a yellow card. Unfortunately, it's one of those rules that gets highlighted at the start of the season, then everyone forgets about it. Foreign players do it in the Premier League and they get booked, because we're English and won't stand for a 'bad old sport, chap'. The most infuriating thing for me tonight, and I mentioned it in the match thread, why is the 5th official on the same side of the goal as the lino? Seriously? Put him on the other side of the goal. Surely that's common sense? He might have even seen that the penalty was outside the box. I have my doubts. It amazes me what fifth officials don't seem to see that modern technology would.
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