seenitall Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 I think Shakey will be a mistake - he is a great 2nd in command and it would be good to keep him at the club but if he takes the top job, he'll be gone by Xmas or thereabouts IMO never to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 On 5/26/2017 at 10:04, Thracian said: This idea that you have to be a "big name" manager to attract "big name" players is nonsense. Tell the owners cus I've got a feeling thats not what they think. On 5/26/2017 at 15:57, Happy Fox said: But MirrorSport understands Shakespeare is still yet to learn whether he has definitely got the job permanently for next season. They are obviously after someone else otherwise it would have been sorted long long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Black Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 If it's not given to Shakespeare, then I would want Eddie Howe, a young, up-and-coming manager, whose teams play good football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmarteyAndChill Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 10 minutes ago, China Black said: If it's not given to Shakespeare, then I would want Eddie Howe, a young, up-and-coming manager, whose teams play good football. Why would Eddie Howe come here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 16 minutes ago, Countryfox said: Tell the owners cus I've got a feeling thats not what they think. They are obviously after someone else otherwise it would have been sorted long long ago. Not necessarily - there may well be some difference of opinion relating to the terms. Seems to me that they're all having a break together, that Shaky is greatly involved with planning for the future, that the owners have no great need to rush their negotiations with everyone being together and that, between and around it all, everyone's having a good time. I don't actually get the feeling that nothing#s being sorted. Rather that lots of things are being discussed and that the owners and Shakespeare want the best outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 15 minutes ago, Thracian said: Not necessarily - there may well be some difference of opinion relating to the terms. Seems to me that they're all having a break together, that Shaky is greatly involved with planning for the future, that the owners have no great need to rush their negotiations with everyone being together and that, between and around it all, everyone's having a good time. I don't actually get the feeling that nothing#s being sorted. Rather that lots of things are being discussed and that the owners and Shakespeare want the best outcome. Maybe ... but the ITK last night (ex executive employee) said they were after a 'European manager' (whether that means he's foreign or is currently managing abroad i don't know) ... but it sort of fits in. It also sort of fits in with how the Thais view things ... big name may well attract big names ... but I'm more worried about keeping what we already have if Shakey doesn't get it. Can't understand why they don't give him a crack .. he's earned it and I think he will be a star. But wtf do i know ! .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 You have to factor in the Thais ambition they want us to compete in Europe, either way some news soon would be nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 With no main bookmakers doing the 'next Leicester manager odds', unlike they're doing with Palace and Sunderland, reckon it's Shakespeare's but final things are still being sort out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmarteyAndChill Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 Just now, Wymeswold fox said: With no main bookmakers doing the 'next Leicester manager odds', reckon it's Shakespeare's but final things are still being sort out. Final things? They've been in Monaco for 5 days now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsox Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 1 hour ago, seenitall said: I think Shakey will be a mistake - he is a great 2nd in command and it would be good to keep him at the club but if he takes the top job, he'll be gone by Xmas or thereabouts IMO never to return. Reckon so, and not at all sure at his ability to sign talent in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 Sir Alex Ferguson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 1 minute ago, FoxinNotts said: Sir Alex Ferguson Retired a few years ago mate. Did you miss that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 2 hours ago, Countryfox said: Maybe ... but the ITK last night (ex executive employee) said they were after a 'European manager' (whether that means he's foreign or is currently managing abroad i don't know) ... but it sort of fits in. It also sort of fits in with how the Thais view things ... big name may well attract big names ... but I'm more worried about keeping what we already have if Shakey doesn't get it. Can't understand why they don't give him a crack .. he's earned it and I think he will be a star. But wtf do i know ! .. If ITK is right, and I've every respect for his view, then our owners are taking an almighty risk for no reason that i can understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 2 hours ago, Happy Fox said: You have to factor in the Thais ambition they want us to compete in Europe, either way some news soon would be nice! We've already competed in Europe and Shaky played a big part in that, particularly during the closing stages. No reason we can't compete again or that we couldn't have put ourselves in contention this season but for the failings of "big name" Ranieri, in various ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On our way... Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 It's Shakeys, but I would not be surprised if we have someone else in by XMas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 3 hours ago, seenitall said: I think Shakey will be a mistake - he is a great 2nd in command and it would be good to keep him at the club but if he takes the top job, he'll be gone by Xmas or thereabouts IMO never to return. What's he done so desperately wrong as a manager in the clearly changing circumstances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 1 minute ago, Thracian said: What's he done so desperately wrong as a manager in the clearly changing circumstances? Absolutely nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 13 minutes ago, On our way... said: It's Shakeys, but I would not be surprised if we have someone else in by XMas. Why's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 3 hours ago, Countryfox said: Maybe ... but the ITK last night (ex executive employee) said they were after a 'European manager' (whether that means he's foreign or is currently managing abroad i don't know) ... but it sort of fits in. It also sort of fits in with how the Thais view things ... big name may well attract big names ... but I'm more worried about keeping what we already have if Shakey doesn't get it. Can't understand why they don't give him a crack .. he's earned it and I think he will be a star. But wtf do i know ! .. In which case they would be idiots for not having someone immediately lined up. Lose two to three weeks on trying to sign players by coming across as rudderless club. Indecision is the worst thing we need right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 10 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: In which case they would be idiots for not having someone immediately lined up. Lose two to three weeks on trying to sign players by coming across as rudderless club. Indecision is the worst thing we need right now. I don't think they are being indecisive ... They know what they want. However .... I think they are trying to think 'big' and maybe missing the best option which is right under their nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On our way... Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 45 minutes ago, Thracian said: Why's that? He deserves a go as he has the trust and respect of (most of) the players and after all he did rescue the situation this year. I just think it's another Rob Kelly situation and longer term it won't work. Owners are desperate to get back into European contention and as soon as they see that slipping away the axe will fall. Tough on Shakey but as I've said before, it's their train set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 2 hours ago, foxfanazer said: Retired a few years ago mate. Did you miss that? Yeah right ........? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigstonWanderer Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said: In which case they would be idiots for not having someone immediately lined up. Lose two to three weeks on trying to sign players by coming across as rudderless club. Indecision is the worst thing we need right now. Is he getting the old heave-ho then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanchflower78 Posted 27 May 2017 Share Posted 27 May 2017 we have the owners, money, infrastructure and more recently results. Yet, still we manage to lag behind the rest in terms of progression... a more glamorous Burnley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 28 May 2017 Share Posted 28 May 2017 7 hours ago, On our way... said: He deserves a go as he has the trust and respect of (most of) the players and after all he did rescue the situation this year. I just think it's another Rob Kelly situation and longer term it won't work. Owners are desperate to get back into European contention and as soon as they see that slipping away the axe will fall. Tough on Shakey but as I've said before, it's their train set! I understand people having different views on the likely success of Shakespeare, as with almost any manager, but I've not read any convincing or justified reasons for having doubt in the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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