Incident at London Bridge

[tom27111]

3 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

Chop their cocks off, that way the 24 virgins are not going to be of much interest to them

They're welcome to their virgins

 

 

[yorkie1999]

2 minutes ago, Charl91 said:

 

I agree with you; I think we're all angry and frustrated about current events.  People feel helpless, because it seems as though there's nothing they can do, no action they can take to stop it. The problem is though, most people don't really know where to take out their anger and frustration. It would be nice to think that there's an easy way to stop this, or some kind of direction people could channel their anger at. Some sort of tangible enemy.

 

But people are taking out their anger on regular muslims, most of which who just want to go about their ordinary lives and get on with their day to day problems. People which have the same worries and problems as us, and are as pissed off about this as we are. Lashing out at these people won't solve the problem, and in their blind anger, this is what many people are failing to see. The only thing it can manage to do is make the problem worse.

 

We need to try and stop extremism somehow, though I'm buggered if I can think of an easy solution. Maybe the Government will think of something. But all this talk of "banning Islam", or "killing everyone on a watch list" is not the answer. There is no black and white answer, and people need to try and accept that. Any solution that does come about will have to be in many shades of grey.

As a young engineer I was taught look at all the ways you can't do it and what your left with is the answer and if that don't work, hit it with a hammer. Apply that principle to anything and it works.

[Guest Dirkster the Fox]

25 minutes ago, hejammy said:

So all Muslims know each other do they? It's the Muslims problem so let them handle it. I think you'll find that most Muslims will have as much of a clue as anyone. It's like saying every white person should know a paedophile. Sounds ludicrous doesn't it. 

There was someone on here who mentioned that mosques who preach hate should be closed. Agree with this completely. Although I fear that the majority of this is done on the Internet. We need to work together with these Internet provides to ban these website. Finding out where the hate is being preached will help towards eliminating the threat. 

No other religion prays, joins up for communal meetings and has such a daily / weekly / monthly process collectively.

 

Therefore the mosques and yes the single faith schools are very much locations such hatred can be manifesting.  Idiotic to say they all know each other, which I didn't, but their faith does provide a location regularly attended, in a much greater % of attendees than most other religions. 

 

I stand and by what I have said. Muslims are the ones best placed to rid this evil. They need to up their game fast and the ball is in their court...

[Charl91]

1 minute ago, yorkie1999 said:

As a young engineer I was taught look at all the ways you can't do it and what your left with is the answer and if that don't work, hit it with a hammer. Apply that principle to anything and it works.

 

I'm glad you're not a doctor then.

[Charl91]

2 minutes ago, Dirkster the Fox said:

No other religion prays, joins up for communal meetings and has such a daily / weekly / monthly process collectively.

 

 

Don't churches do most of these things? Genuine question.

[Russell sprout]

47 minutes ago, hejammy said:

But is it your job to spot them? The real pussy footing around is by the intelligence units. Most of these terrorists fit a particular profile. A "Muslim" with a very troubled past. Usually very impressionable, has a history of drugs, violence, general hate crimes, unsettled childhood. Take these kids off the street and rehabilite them. At the moment their "rehabilitation" is done by hate preachers here and thousands of miles away. 

Most people have troubled pasts in some way,upbringing,violence etc,my self to an extent,but I wouldn't think of harming innocent people in the process

[tom27111]

1 minute ago, Dirkster the Fox said:

No other religion prays, joins up for communal meetings and has such a daily / weekly / monthly process collectively.

 

Therefore the mosques and yes the single faith schools are very much locations such hatred can be manifesting.  Idiotic to say they all know each other, which I didn't, but their faith does provide a location regularly attended, in a much greater % of attendees than most other religions. 

 

I stand and by what I have said. Muslims are the ones best placed to rid this evil. They need to up their game fast and the ball is in their court...

 

I take it you've not heard of a thing called a 'church' or this thing known as 'christianity'.

 

Usually happens on a Sunday. 

 

It's that powerful, it's why shops can only open for 6 hours on a Sunday. 

 

You might want to Google it, mate

 

[Russell sprout]

33 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

Utter nonsense.

Please explain then as your response is utter nonsense 

[yorkie1999]

2 minutes ago, Charl91 said:

 

I'm glad you're not a doctor then.

I dunno, you came to me with a headache and I can assure you after 10 minutes you won't have one 

[The Floyd]

It's patently obvious that a discussion is needed and action is taken from there. Politicians must identify the source of this cause whether some find it offensive or not. The longer the term 'islamaphobia' is thrown around to silence any discussion of critiquing Islam, then the longer the problem will persist.

 

Being told to 'continue as normal' is not going to cut it anymore I feel, people are now genuinely giving consideration as to which gigs and events to attend and where to travel, within their own country, myself included. 

 

 

[Guest Dirkster the Fox]

4 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

 

I take it you've not heard of a thing called a 'church' or this thing known as 'christianity'.

 

Usually happens on a Sunday. 

 

It's that powerful, it's why shops can only open for 6 hours on a Sunday. 

 

You might want to Google it, mate

 

How many attend a church as a % of the Christian population in the UK? Much less than mosques.

 

Read my posts properly before being so condescending.

 

[Matt]

Always boils down to two things, religion and politics.

 

[tom27111]

3 minutes ago, Dirkster the Fox said:

How many attend a church as a % of the Christian population in the UK? Much less than mosques.

 

Read my posts properly before being so condescending.

 

 

You stated that NO other religion congresgates 

[yorkie1999]

3 minutes ago, Matt said:

Always boils down to two things, religion and politics.

One thing, oil

[Charl91]

11 minutes ago, Russell sprout said:

Most people have troubled pasts in some way,upbringing,violence etc,my self to an extent,but I wouldn't think of harming innocent people in the process

 

Your attitude towards all muslims suggests different.

[whoareyaaa]

1 minute ago, yorkie1999 said:

One thing, oil

I think its gone past that point about 10 years ago, the US succeeded in that attempt... what we are seeing now is this backend of going to war with the US in iraq.

[hejammy]

11 minutes ago, Dirkster the Fox said:

No other religion prays, joins up for communal meetings and has such a daily / weekly / monthly process collectively.

 

Therefore the mosques and yes the single faith schools are very much locations such hatred can be manifesting.  Idiotic to say they all know each other, which I didn't, but their faith does provide a location regularly attended, in a much greater % of attendees than most other religions. 

 

I stand and by what I have said. Muslims are the ones best placed to rid this evil. They need to up their game fast and the ball is in their court...

And you are baseing this on? Like others have said, other religions have gatherings, we as lcfc fans "gather" usually on a Saturday afternoon. You are making an assumption that the preaching of this hate all happens at single faith schools and mosques. You hear all the time that these terrorists "used to come to x mosque" and they stopped coming. The Internet is where they get radicalised. I don't doubt there could be some mosques preaching hate and I am all for closing these down and arresting the hate preachers. However you will find that most mosques and single faith schools hate what these cowards are doing as much as the next man. How do you propose now that Muslims "up their game" 

[Russell sprout]

4 minutes ago, Charl91 said:

 

Your attitude towards all muslims suggests different.

Yeah cuz muslims are innocent in all this aren't they,but like i previously said people like myself pussy foot about for fear of being branded racists by lefties like yourself 

[hejammy]

14 minutes ago, Russell sprout said:

Most people have troubled pasts in some way,upbringing,violence etc,my self to an extent,but I wouldn't think of harming innocent people in the process

To an extent..... Your words. 

 

Historically these have an extremely disfunctional upbringing and usually have criminal records for harming others and other hate / drug crimes. 

 

I certainly do not think "most people" have these sorts of troubled past. I obviously mentioned it was this extreme trouble passed coupled with them being "Muslim" 

[hejammy]

1 minute ago, Russell sprout said:

Yeah cuz muslims are innocent in all this aren't they,but like i previously said people like myself pussy foot about for fear of being branded racists by lefties like yourself 

"cuz muslims are innocent in all this aren't they" oh dear..... 

 

So by your sarcastic response your suggesting all Muslims are not innocent? 

[foxfanazer]

The racists are ignorant idiots but I actually feel the actions and words of the lefty sympathisers are more dangerous to this country

[The Guvnor]

This sort of indiscriminate attack on innocent people is absolutely nauseating and the frequency of attacks is now becoming ridiculous. Looking at the reports now the police appear to have been incredible in their response and the armed officers who dispatched these nut jobs should be given the highest bravery awards possible. There is no magic fix to stop this type of terror attack but I am becoming increasingly sick of the government tip toeing around the issue of radicalisation our overly tolerant society and our common approach of 'they will never beat us' and in particular 'we will carry on as normal', err no the line has been crossed now I don't want any of my family being stabbed, blown up or mowed down by a vehicle with one of those cvnts at the wheel. Everything possible needs to be done to try and prevent this. Anyone with an ounce of brain realises that the majority of Muslims will be horrified by these attacks and I am sure the Muslim Community are whistle blowing that has to be encouraged and applauded, but that's not enough so what else can be done? well we can start by any Mosques suspected of preaching hate to be continuously monitored and the slightest sniff of any hate preaching life imprisonment, ban Sharia law, anyone on the streets peddling leaflets of hate lock them up.  Faith schools to be closely monitored, not 5 year inspections by ofsted ffs, all police officers in metropolitan areas to be fully armed at all times. and I disagree with trying to take these individuals alive for 'proper' justice in our judicial system, shoot and shoot to kill.

Lighting candles and holding hands ain't the answer people.

 

[foxes_rule1978]

2 minutes ago, Russell sprout said:

Yeah cuz muslims are innocent in all this aren't they,but like i previously said people like myself pussy foot about for fear of being branded racists by lefties like yourself 

The vast majority are innocent and condemn such actions, it is unfair to claim they are all in it because extremeists are using their religion as an excuse to commit such horrible actions. 

[Charl91]

Just now, Russell sprout said:

Yeah cuz muslims are innocent in all this aren't they,but like a previously said people like myself pussy foot about for fear of being branded racists by lefties like yourself 

 

Most are, yes. It would be like saying all Catholics are paedophiles, or all white people are murderers.

 

It's not pussy footing around, it's called facts, statistics and common sense. You seem to lack a fundamental grasp of all 3.

 

 

[Russell sprout]

Just now, hejammy said:

To an extent..... Your words. 

 

Historically these have an extremely disfunctional upbringing and usually have criminal records for harming others and other hate / drug crimes. 

 

I certainly do not think "most people" have these sorts of troubled past. I obviously mentioned it was this extreme trouble passed coupled with them being "Muslim" 

Depends what you define as troubles past,

but I think that it's the poison they call Islam which they get installed into them from birth which makes the commit the type of acts of terrorism they do