Safe standing - time to act

[David Hankey]

I always have a wry smile when I hear over the tannoy at every home game that LCFC is an ALL-SEATER stadium and standing is prohibited. 

 

The other issue is; why does the Club employ so many stewards in SK1, far more than anywhere else in the ground except near to the away fans, who stand idly by when there is a clear flagrance of this ruling.

 

Edited 26 October 2022 by David Hankey

[steveherbe]

31 minutes ago, davieG said:

We'd probably end up with something like this.

 

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You had me going there for a minute, thought this was actually a real quote from the LCFC site. Good one!!

[purpleronnie]

I think there will always be clubs in England that understand some fans will want to stand at games and therefore and will allow them to stand in safety.  And there will also be clubs who don't want fans to stand at all and will go out of their way to make sure they don't.  

 

We're just a weird country when it comes to fans standing.

[SemperEadem]

I don’t think our club has moved out of that awful period around 07-13 where the debate around standing at football was seen as really edgy due in parts to the Hillsborough family justice groups.

The club destroyed the N block movements with similar stewarding tactics that they recently have again deployed.

The arguments have moved on massively but it feels very much like the powers at be at our club are still very much in the dark on the whole thing.

Edited 26 October 2022 by SemperEadem

[fox_up_north]

While Hillsborough was awful and 96 people needlessly lost their lives, it's evident that the ability to stand was dwarfed by bad stewarding, bad policing and safety issues. 

 

Things are very, very different now and the lower leagues, as well as live music venues and festivals, demonstrate that standing can be done safely. 

[Buzzell]

Surely it’s only a matter of time until the club make the singing section a safe standing zone?

[MattFox]

1 hour ago, SemperEadem said:

I don’t think our club has moved out of that awful period around 07-13 where the debate around standing at football was seen as really edgy due in parts to the Hillsborough family justice groups.

The club destroyed the N block movements with similar stewarding tactics that they recently have again deployed.

The arguments have moved on massively but it feels very much like the powers at be at our club are still very much in the dark on the whole thing.

They are happy to have the biggest away end in the country, well over the limit we are required to allocate bizarrely though.

[MalletFox]

4 hours ago, David Hankey said:

The other issue is; why does the Club employ so many stewards in SK1, far more than anywhere else in the ground except near to the away fans, who stand idly by when there is a clear flagrance of this ruling.

 

Has Mr Flagrant and Mrs Fragrance had a dirty affair and made this baby?

[Drew Peacock]

Seeing this post reminded me of Molineux last Sunday. Nice, fairly big safe standing section in the corner and guess what? 99% of people sat down in it. Very odd.

[HybridFox]

33 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said:

Seeing this post reminded me of Molineux last Sunday. Nice, fairly big safe standing section in the corner and guess what? 99% of people sat down in it. Very odd.

Was wondering the same thing, looked like railing for safe standing

 

Tbf probably wasn't worth your knees given how sh*** they were 

[GlennyFox55]

1 hour ago, Drew Peacock said:

Seeing this post reminded me of Molineux last Sunday. Nice, fairly big safe standing section in the corner and guess what? 99% of people sat down in it. Very odd.

Believe It’s where the away end will be when the stadium expansion is carried out and is also the away end for teams that take a smaller following. 

[Mr Weller 2]

This whole debate is relevant to a few hundred at most. It really isn’t what most fans are bothered about right now as most don’t want to stand anyway. If it happens for the few who are keen and is safe then great but this obsession with it is just tedious.

Edited 26 October 2022 by Mr Weller 2

[J.Lisemore]

5 hours ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

This whole debate is relevant to a few hundred at most. It really isn’t what most fans are bothered about right now as most don’t want to stand anyway. If it happens for the few who are keen and is safe then great but this obsession with it is just tedious.

It's not a couple of hundred though is it? We've been made to sit after years of standing, the point is, there should be a choice. Safe standing works whether people like it or not, it's the stubbornness of certain English clubs including ours that let this down. 

[Lcfc098]

6 hours ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

This whole debate is relevant to a few hundred at most. It really isn’t what most fans are bothered about right now as most don’t want to stand anyway. If it happens for the few who are keen and is safe then great but this obsession with it is just tedious.

But you’re bothered enough to click on the forum and reply to it

[Sol thewall Bamba]

8 hours ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

This whole debate is relevant to a few hundred at most. It really isn’t what most fans are bothered about right now as most don’t want to stand anyway. If it happens for the few who are keen and is safe then great but this obsession with it is just tedious.

Don't come in the thread then? 

[purpleronnie]

9 hours ago, Drew Peacock said:

Seeing this post reminded me of Molineux last Sunday. Nice, fairly big safe standing section in the corner and guess what? 99% of people sat down in it. Very odd.

They also have it behind the goal where I assume everyone stood.

[KrefelderFox666]

10 hours ago, Drew Peacock said:

Seeing this post reminded me of Molineux last Sunday. Nice, fairly big safe standing section in the corner and guess what? 99% of people sat down in it. Very odd.

I did think that too. However, I know Wolves sometimes allocate that section to away fans when they have a small following (cup games). So wonder if linked to that.

[Voll Blau]

9 hours ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

This whole debate is relevant to a few hundred at most. It really isn’t what most fans are bothered about right now as most don’t want to stand anyway. If it happens for the few who are keen and is safe then great but this obsession with it is just tedious.

There are easily more than 5,000 people standing in total at every home game of ours, plus more who no doubt would if there was a safer way to do so.

[David Hankey]

7 hours ago, J.Lisemore said:

It's not a couple of hundred though is it? We've been made to sit after years of standing, the point is, there should be a choice. Safe standing works whether people like it or not, it's the stubbornness of certain English clubs including ours that let this down. 

It might not be a "couple of hundred" but it is certainly a minority. Also, just ask yourself why all seater stadiums were introduced.

[David Hankey]

3 hours ago, Voll Blau said:

There are easily more than 5,000 people standing in total at every home game of ours, plus more who no doubt would if there was a safer way to do so.

Is that 5K plus really true? If so, there is still over 27K who do not stand. 

[Simmo86]

2 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

Is that 5K plus really true? If so, there is still over 27K who do not stand. 

Problem is you don't know how many of that 27k would stand if given the chance to do so!

[Sol thewall Bamba]

11 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

Is that 5K plus really true? If so, there is still over 27K who do not stand. 

Let's get rid of corporate seating because only a minority use that. Let's get rid of catering at the ground too because most people don't eat at the ground so it must not be needed. Whilst we're at it let's bin off the disabled sections as they're only used by a small number. Those betting stands in the concourse can go as well because most people don't bet. Bin off all the stuff for the kids because most people are adults. 

[Dames]

17 hours ago, buzzer_b said:

Surely it’s only a matter of time until the club make the singing section a safe standing zone?

Not going to happen. The club have wanted that to fail from the start and as word has it the stewarding in that section has been getting more overzealous lately.

 

I personally think they were hoping it would attract enough trouble naturally from displacing fans and attracting wanna be ultras but that's not worked out so they are now going to be putting the pressure on in other ways. The club has had a set idea of what it wants a match day experience to be for the best part of 15 years now and they won't deviate from that at all. 

[Voll Blau]

23 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

It might not be a "couple of hundred" but it is certainly a minority. Also, just ask yourself why all seater stadiums were introduced.

I'm well aware of the Taylor Report, thanks. The fact is all-seater stadia hasn't stopped standing, which happens every single week at all-seater stadia across the country. Those who want to do it need the facilities to do so safely.

 

 

20 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

Is that 5K plus really true? If so, there is still over 27K who do not stand. 

Flawless maths.

[KrefelderFox666]

24 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

It might not be a "couple of hundred" but it is certainly a minority. Also, just ask yourself why all seater stadiums were introduced.

Why do you think they were introduced? And what is your view on those reasons? Genuine questions here.

 

Personally, those laws/reasons is far outdated. In those times standing was not safe, there was overcrowding, police/stewards who were clueless, drunken people (and not just a minority). It was a different time.

 

Safe standing is like a seat but with minimal chance of falling over or crushing anyone. It allows those few thousand supporters who already stand (or who may wish to stand) that ability. I cannot see how anyone would stand (no pun intended) against that. I am pretty confident the 5K figure quoted/estimated above is not far off the demand for it. We have nearly 3K stand at every away game.