Huth and James

[ealingfox]

Anyone know what's actually going on with these two? Feels as if neither of them will ever play again.

 

I'm sure neither were presented as having serious injuries at any point but James has now been out for months and Huth hasnt played all season. I feel like there hasn't been much in the way of updates or timescales either, just the manager saying they're unavailable each pre-match presser without elaborating.

 

Will either play again this season? Of course James has got his new deal now so won't be going anywhere anytime soon, but given his deal is up next June, might we have seen the last of Big Bobby Huth in a City shirt?

[m4DD0gg]

James won't get anywhere near the first team. 

 

We need huth back though. 

[harpendenfox]

both very mysterious. I wouldn't right off Huth just yet, but for Matty I fear time is up. Silva becomes available in January, and I hope we buy another centre mid in January too. I'd have loved him to work out here, but he must now find another club and be given a free transfer, as sadly it does not appear as if he is going to be sufficiently robust for the Prem. Our decision to give him a long contract was another very bizarre decision given his injury problems

[Guest MattP]

Why on earth did we give James a long term deal? Completely bonkers.

[Ted Maul]

2 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said:

James won't get anywhere near the first team. 

 

We need huth back though. 

Pretty much this- I can't see James being in the first team regularly again, especially with Silva coming in.

 

Huth is still our best defender though, in my eyes. His legs might be on the way out, but Maguire needs an organiser alongside him at the minute- he could learn a lot from him.

[Countryfox]

Unfortunately James IS Mr Sicknote ..   and Huths ankles are fvcked.

[Soar Fox]

2 minutes ago, MattP said:

Why on earth did we give James a long term deal? Completely bonkers.

Totally agree. 

 

As much as I like Ulloa, what the hell were we doing giving him a new 2 year deal also. 

[Beechey]

I read Huth's ankle injury is fine, but he's picked up a different injury now.

[Lovejoy]

Huth's contract up in the summer. Without meaning disrespect to him, I wonder if we may have seen the last of him.

[Guest MattP]

9 minutes ago, Steve_Walsh5 said:

Totally agree. 

 

As much as I like Ulloa, what the hell were we doing giving him a new 2 year deal also. 

Another one that was absolutely crazy. 

[lgfualol]

44 minutes ago, MattP said:

Why on earth did we give James a long term deal? Completely bonkers.

We are way too sentimental. We should have given him 6 months to see if he can handle it, not after like 2 weeks. Ulloa gets a contract for no reason. I bet Huth comes back for a week and we give him 3 more years.

 

Imo, try to offload both.

[Fox92]

Dunno why people keep asking for Huth back. He's no improvement on Morgan or Maguire now. Morgan has been decent enough this season as has Maguire.

 

James won't get near the first 11. The decision to give him a 4 year deal was stupid. I said in the summer we should be looking to offload if someone offers a decent price - and it was Derby who were linked at the time.

[StanSP]

There's a clause in Huth's contract that if he reaches 100 games for us, he gets an automatic contract extension. 

[StriderHiryu]

44 minutes ago, Lovejoy said:

Huth's contract up in the summer. Without meaning disrespect to him, I wonder if we may have seen the last of him.

I think he's done but would love to see him get a one year extension with us, and maybe move into a coaching role at some point. Arguably he was our most important signing ever as pre-Huth, Morgan and Moore was a disaster. Huth and Albrighton came in, we changed to the 3-5-2 and the rest is history.  

 

I'll also never forget that performance of Huth versus Man City in 15/16. He was brilliant that day.

[Babylon]

59 minutes ago, Ted Maul said:

Pretty much this- I can't see James being in the first team regularly again, especially with Silva coming in.

We start playing with 3 cm's and he'll be on the bench every week when fit. Rather him than King.

Edited 28 November 2017 by Babylon

[baldeagle]

7 minutes ago, StanSP said:

There's a clause in Huth's contract that if he reaches 100 games for us, he gets an automatic contract extension. 

Well he’s at 68 now so there’s no way he’ll make 100 before the  summer if thats true 

Edited 28 November 2017 by baldeagle

[Fox92]

2 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

I think he's done but would love to see him get a one year extension with us, and maybe move into a coaching role at some point. Arguably he was our most important signing ever as pre-Huth, Morgan and Moore was a disaster. Huth and Albrighton came in, we changed to the 3-5-2 and the rest is history.  

 

I'll also never forget that performance of Huth versus Man City in 15/16. He was brilliant that day.

We can't give contract extensions out based on history. 

 

If he wants to go into coaching then I agree offer him a coaching role but if not at this stage then let him go.

Edited 28 November 2017 by Fox92

[jayfox26]

1 hour ago, harpendenfox said:

both very mysterious. I wouldn't right off Huth just yet, but for Matty I fear time is up. Silva becomes available in January, and I hope we buy another centre mid in January too. I'd have loved him to work out here, but he must now find another club and be given a free transfer, as sadly it does not appear as if he is going to be sufficiently robust for the Prem. Our decision to give him a long contract was another very bizarre decision given his injury problems

Doubt we'll sign another cm, I think it's more likely Puel will bring back Mendy. S for Huth and James though, im not sure either will get back in. I doubt James will ever be as good as Ndidi, iborra or Silva so he'll only be 4th choice at best, maybe 5th if we bring back Mendy. And with Huth getting on a bit, I think he'll find it tough to regain his starting spot after being out so long. Plus, Puel is going you want to build his own team and they may not be in his plans. Having said that though,our defending has been poor for most of the season so maybe he will want to bring Huth back. 

[sylofox]

56 minutes ago, MattP said:

Why on earth did we give James a long term deal? Completely bonkers.

 

52 minutes ago, Steve_Walsh5 said:

Totally agree. 

 

As much as I like Ulloa, what the hell were we doing giving him a new 2 year deal also. 

 

47 minutes ago, Lovejoy said:

Huth's contract up in the summer. Without meaning disrespect to him, I wonder if we may have seen the last of him.

This really is the joke that is our recruitment. Ulloa don't play but gets a new contract. James injured for two years gets a new contract. Huth played every week but no extension offered. DD allowed to go but his replacement signed 14 seconds late.

 

How the fvck have our owners not acted yet.

 

Let's not forget the players we have wasted millions on that would be lucky to get a start for Oadby Town.

[ZeGuy]

[sylofox]

5 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

We can't give contract extensions out based on history. 

 

If he wants to go into coaching then I agree offer him a coaching role but if not at this stage then let him go.

Why not we've done it.

[Babylon]

1 minute ago, Fox92 said:

We can't give contract extensions out based on history.

Except that's exactly what we've done in the past.

 

For what I presume was the benefit of the team spirit Pearson gave plenty of players an extra year, because they were good to have about, and to be seen to be looking after his players. It seemed clear that's exactly what CS was doing with Ulloa.

 

Clearly he'd been lied to, who knows what the reaction to that was behind the scenes from him and others. The manger sorts it out and everyone can see they made good their word. It's meant to build trust.

 

Not every decision is made on the basis of whether someone is first 11 or not.

[Fox92]

3 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Except that's exactly what we've done in the past.

 

For what I presume was the benefit of the team spirit Pearson gave plenty of players an extra year, because they were good to have about, and to be seen to be looking after his players. It seemed clear that's exactly what CS was doing with Ulloa.

 

Clearly he'd been lied to, who knows what the reaction to that was behind the scenes from him and others. The manger sorts it out and everyone can see they made good their word. It's meant to build trust.

 

Not every decision is made on the basis of whether someone is first 11 or not.

Pearson gave his players extensions because we got promoted didn't he? As a reward. I agree with that.

 

But to say "oh well Huth was great two years ago give him an extension". Not for me. I'd rather a younger replacement come in or a younger player step up from the youth team or whatever.

 

Ulloa got a new contract based on a "gentlemens agreement" he had with Ranieri which wasn't fulfilled. Which is daft. He's never nowhere near the first 11 or even the bench. 

Edited 28 November 2017 by Fox92

[fuchsntf]

40 minutes ago, harpendenfox said:

both very mysterious. I wouldn't right off Huth just yet, but for Matty I fear time is up. Silva becomes available in January, and I hope we buy another centre mid in January too. I'd have loved him to work out here, but he must now find another club and be given a free transfer, as sadly it does not appear as if he is going to be sufficiently robust for the Prem. Our decision to give him a long contract was another very bizarre decision given his injury problems

James is 27. He can still work in the squad, if he can clear his bad injury cycle.Maybe they have said...with his recent new contract,

That they will give him longer to recover. With Huth bad injury and recuperation, Maguire /Drago has allowed Shakespeare , now Puel

not to panic.

Even if Silva turns out to be that top investment we hope, and we see a middfield of....Silva, Ibororra Ndidi.

We need Back  up, for replacements and competition, then a substitute and fring players turn around.

I see no reason, why James, Huth , King, Amartey, with long runs from present staff cant be still kept on the books.

These next 2 seasons, Amartey and James can still make their mark.Huth a known and a damn good back up.

Looking at a couple of hopefulls like keane and others mentioned on this forum, so far part of our non-action,

hasnt been too negative.  This 'get rid', good riddance attitude on this forum, has seen more teams relegated than not

We cant afford like some, to have real big names on the bench, or on the terraces, so we need these types edging the

forefront, and in the background when necessary...Ditching these type, and proven players would be foolish at this time.

Puel has to also be shown to see what player his new set up can entice to the KP.

 

January, will give us a fair insight how Puel has handled the present situation, also to see if there has been some developement

from within if Mahrez stays, a bit or even longer.

Then if there are a couple of  steals we can pick up.

[Cincinnati Fox]

25 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Dunno why people keep asking for Huth back. He's no improvement on Morgan or Maguire now. Morgan has been decent enough this season as has Maguire.

 

James won't get near the first 11. The decision to give him a 4 year deal was stupid. I said in the summer we should be looking to offload if someone offers a decent price - and it was Derby who were linked at the time.

Huth is a better player the Morgan and I think like most Maguire will look far better alongside Huth