Money Can’t buy my Love , but it’s killing it.....

[Wymsey]

There also appears to be too much advertisement for the game, which leads to the games in question hardly appetising and interesting to the neutral supporter.

Beginning to think about cancelling my BT Sport subscription as noticed the bill is slowly creeping up without any notification from the provider.

Edited 4 February 2018 by Wymeswold fox

[Hammo]

The best moments in football are priceless.

 

Maguire's goal v United, to cite a recent example.

 

Money can't buy joy on that scale.

 

It can't kill it either, though.

[Karljohn]

Its called the greed league for a reason.

 

Sky started the rot.

[NorthfieldsFox]

37 minutes ago, Hammo said:

The best moments in football are priceless.

 

Maguire's goal v United, to cite a recent example.

 

Money can't buy joy on that scale.

 

It can't kill it either, though.

I’m afraid for me it can kill the magic , or at least the lingering memory , for example many of Mahrez’s greatest moments are at risk of forever evoking a feeling of mixed emotions owing to the money created hex we have at present 

 

but your right the amazing magical moments are often not effected by this Money quandary 

[Parafox]

3 hours ago, Bluetintedspecs said:

Memories from when the game was pure!

 

 

That's a brilliant photo.

 

Just goes to show how Health and Safety has ruined so many fun things we used to enjoy doing. Cap sales were phenomenal back in the day. If you were a cap maker, you were made for life. They probably had cap vans outside the ground, like we now have burger vans.

 

I can only see one person who has dismissed any kind of headwear, making a revolutionary "no-cap" protest. 

 

Sliding down wires and crawling onto the roof... I'm surprised there's no one sitting on the chimney pots, keeping their arse warm.

Edited 4 February 2018 by Parafox

[Spudulike]

When the Premier League eventually goes bust, and it will, those of us still around will look back on these years and thank our lucky stars that we had our slice (and quite a big one at that). The stadium, training complex and most importantly our raised world profile with a new generation of fans will be our legacy and give us an advantage in any post TV contract football world.

 

I think we'll come out of it better than most.

[Wymsey]

Easier said than actually going to happen, but the broadcasters etc should distribute the money across the other football league levels - so that the smaller clubs can be able to obtain much-needed income.

Edited 4 February 2018 by Wymeswold fox

[Parafox]

1 hour ago, Wymeswold fox said:

There also appears to be too much advertisement for the game, which leads to the games in question hardly appetising and interesting to the neutral supporter.

Beginning to think about cancelling my BT Sport subscription as noticed the bill is slowing creeping without any notification from the provider.

Yeah, me too. I only got it for the Champions League, when we were there. I do like watching the CL with the top European clubs playing each other but I hate BT at the best of times and you can always watch highlights on ITV later that night. I might jack it in. I never watch anything else on BT Sport, other than CL. So much of their sports coverage is not mainstream. Who wants to watch the Fina tennis tournament or college league American basketball?

[Parafox]

3 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said:

Easier said than actually going to happen, but the broadcasters etc should distribute the moeny across the other football league levels - so that the smaller clubs can be able to obtain much-needed income.

I thought the SP of the Premier League and Sky was to filter money down to the lower league and non-league football as well as supporting football in schools and local football teams and improving and maintaining facilities for park teams that have nothing. I thought they were supposed to save grass roots football. 

 

It seems that the PL have the golden egg and they aren't sharing that with anyone that can't put something back.

[simFox]

Salary caps.

 

/Thread

[Bluetintedspecs]

30 minutes ago, Parafox said:

That's a brilliant photo.

 

Just goes to show how Health and Safety has ruined so many fun things we used to enjoy doing. Cap sales were phenomenal back in the day. If you were a cap maker, you were made for life. They probably had cap vans outside the ground, like we now have burger vans.

 

I can only see one person who has dismissed any kind of headwear, making a revolutionary "no-cap" protest. 

 

Sliding down wires and crawling onto the roof... I'm surprised there's no one sitting on the chimney pots, keeping their arse warm.

Yeah that's a photo from our largest ever attendance at Filbo , yes a real Peaky Blinder and health and safety delight ?

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

Lot to praise and agree with the OP. But it does need some balance. My first games at Filbert Street were in the 1979/80 season and I was lucky to attend on occasion for next three years, when I started following the Foxes. It was great that local lads like Lineker could play for the team they supported. The atmosphere was often brilliant. But let's not forget the down sides - seen at nearly every ground sadly. Crap facilities on the whole, violence in and around the ground (I remember a Chelsea game in particular), and racism. There was a small number of our own fans giving Larry May real shit at a game. Also the standard of the football itself, not the actual contests, was often poor compared to modern day standards, although of course there were hugely talented players  The 1980s were a stain on football for many of those reasons.

 

So whilst it's true that money has corrupted the game in many ways and spoiled the enjoyment to an extent, it also ensured that the game survived after that decade. We are lucky to see the quality of players on show in the PL although it would be great to see more clubs develop and trust home grown talent. 

 

And of course, the fact we battered the top rich six clubs to win the title was perhaps more all the sweeter for their wealth.

 

 

 

 

 

[Durnerz]

The premier league has become a poker game with the top clubs going 'all in' on lesser sides effectively bullying them for their top players. Guardiola never 'wanted' Mahrez, he wanted a playing card for his deck. As soon as Sane came back Mahrez would be doing a decent impression of Drinkwater at Chelsea, glued to the bench.

Its rapidly getting out of hand but no ones going to be brave enough to put a stop to the rising spending, every transfer record that's broken Sky stand there with their nobs out. It's going to take someone big enough to enforce a transfer and salary cap or for a big side to go out of existence for anything to change for the positive.
 

[reynard]

6 hours ago, Rogstanley said:

People have been saying this kind of thing for decades. Nostalgia ain’t what it used to be and all that.

 

The premier league is great, that’s why it’s so successful. The title has changed hands more often in the last 10 years than in any other 10 year period in history. 

 

 

Nonsense.The old first division title was won between 1959 and 1972 by 11 different teams. The last ten years of the premier league has seen only 4 different teams win it inculding us. Even in the 1980s when Liverpool dominated sides like Ipswich, Watford and Southampton finished runners up, can't see that happening now.

In fact in the last 15 seasons of the Premier league apart from the so-called big six only us and Newcastle (who finished 3rd in 2002/03) have finished in the top 3.

The league isn't as good a competition as it once was even if the standard is higher. As a competitive entity it is slowly dying. Doesn't mean people will stop watching it but we are heading towards a closed shop where only 6 teams can win it. Or win gave hope but in reality has led to an orgy of obscene spending by the top clubs and a situation where money is everything and where agents are on the brink of controlling the ins and outs at clubs.

[TeaMen Tom]

2 hours ago, simFox said:

Salary caps.

 

/Thread

I'd love to see Mourinho try to deal with one

[Vacamion]

 

When Shola Ameobi and Joleon Lescott are millionaires, and Andy Carroll lives like this, you know there’s something gone wrong...

 

 

 

 

 

[sylofox]

I hate all this money it has destroyed the game. I have over the years been and watched other games but now would rather go fishing on the beach. I cant even watch MOTD now as I have little interest in none City football. If we went bust I don't think I'd ever watch a game again.

 

In 15/16 we gave every club hope. But we also kicked the big boys up the arse and they just increased spending to another level. Perhaps our win did more harm than good.

[Kitchandro]

No, humans have ruined football.

 

Money does not have a mind. It cannot make decisions. It does not have morals or emotions. It does not have the capacity to affect free will.

 

People have a responsibility to behave a certain way regardless of the amount of pound notes at stake. That includes players and big shots in the boardroom at football clubs.

 

Money is not the cause of greed - man’s greed creates a demand for it.

 

Mahrez is is well aware of the situation and he has made choices. It’s not the money, it’s not even his agent. Riyad Mahrez has made a choice to refuse to train or play, no one else.

 

He could have told his agent to do one, he could have upheld his contract, but he hasn’t.

 

Time we stopped blaming money and started blaming people for their own actions. Footballers are the only people that don’t suffer the judgement of others.

Edited 4 February 2018 by Kitchandro

[Wymsey]

15 minutes ago, Vacamion said:

 

When Shola Ameobi and Joleon Lescott are millionaires, and Andy Carroll lives like this, you know there’s something gone wrong...

 

 

 

 

 

I just have sympathy for the dog..

[Suzie the Fox]

Just now, Kitchandro said:

No, humans have ruined football.

 

Money does not have a mind. It cannot make decisions. It does not have morals or emotions. It does not have the capacity to affect free will.

 

People have a responsibility to behave a certain way regardless of the amount of pound notes at stake.

 

Money is not the cause of greed - man’s greed creates a demand for it.

 

Mahrez is is well aware of the situation and he has made choices. It’s not the money, it’s not even his agent. Riyad Mahrez has made a choice to refuse to train or play, no one else.

 

He could have told his agent to do one, he could have upheld his contract, but he hasn’t.

 

Time we stopped blaming money and started blaming people for their own actions. Footballers are the only people that don’t suffer the judgement of others.

Its abit like saying guns kill people, when we all know that they don't pull the trigger themselves. 

[Kitchandro]

1 minute ago, Suzie the Fox said:

Its abit like saying guns kill people, when we all know that they don't pull the trigger themselves. 

Too right it is.

 

Would you let a man go free and say the gun did it?

 

Man invented guns.

Edited 4 February 2018 by Kitchandro

[Mr Weller]

Every generation think things were better in their day. What is a fact is that more people attend football games than at any time since the early 1960s and Leicester City have never had attendances this good on a regular basis.

 

For a game 'that's dying' that's pretty good. Truth is the game is booming which is why there is so much money. 

 

Staged old photos of men in cloth caps and rose tinted myths of a game for working men are not borne out by the realities of the past.

[Kitchandro]

12 minutes ago, Mr Weller said:

Every generation think things were better in their day. What is a fact is that more people attend football games than at any time since the early 1960s and Leicester City have never had attendances this good on a regular basis.

 

For a game 'that's dying' that's pretty good. Truth is the game is booming which is why there is so much money. 

 

Staged old photos of men in cloth caps and rose tinted myths of a game for working men are not borne out by the realities of the past.

Well they are, take a look at any statistics regarding ticket prices, inflation and the average wage and it's proved that football was far more affordable for the working class many years ago and has become consistently less affordable as time has gone on, in particular over the last 25 years.

 

The difference is football has become like an addiction, a part of a normal person's routine that they can't live without, and the media feeds the importance of football to you on a daily basis. It's just another thing people do to try and give their life meaning. So much so that the idea one of their favourite players or the manager or the chairman has done something they disagree with is very conflicting. So they blame money.

 

My day is today, frankly, I'm only 25, you don't need bias to work out football was more affordable years ago. Everything else is down to opinion.

 

And I'm pretty sure men did wear cloth caps a lot at one time.

 

 

 

 

Edited 4 February 2018 by Kitchandro

[The Doctor]

58 minutes ago, Vacamion said:

 

When Shola Ameobi and Joleon Lescott are millionaires, and Andy Carroll lives like this, you know there’s something gone wrong...

 

 

 

 

 

That is possibly the trashiest place I have ever seen. Zebra print cushions alone would have been a bit much, but zebra print wallpaper?

[boots60]

The public gets what the public wants

 

Paul Weller, The Jam, Going Underground 1980

 

Think about it