dylanlegend Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 2 minutes ago, AKCJ said: Kids and nobodies? Why would I bother including them when we're talking about the first team that will play next season? Mendy, Musa, Kaputzka... I could go on forever baby 1
dylanlegend Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 4 minutes ago, Rusko187 said: You know it's entirely possible he may have developed as a player since leaving Manchester United. You mustn't have watched him play recently. Still S*** 1
AKCJ Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 1 minute ago, Gerard said: He's not better than what we have. I'd have Gray and Albrighton above him by a considerable distance. We could also play Iheanacho central and Maddison to his right as an attacking three behind Vardy playing narrow with the full backs providing width. We're absolutely ****ing useless, another waste of space coming in for big money who we will take a loss on of assuming we find some other mugs to move him on to before his contract is up. Why on earth don't we just but someone who is a level above what we have or keep our money in our pockets until we do? He's light years ahead of Diabate ffs. He and Gray have similar records. Why would we play Maddison and Iheanacho out of position having spent 50m on the pair? Iheanacho is a striker and he benefitted from the 4-4-2 that we played towards the end of last season as opposed to being a makeshift number 10. 1
AKCJ Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 2 minutes ago, dylanlegend said: Mendy, Musa, Kaputzka... I could go on forever baby Mendy is always injured, Musa is about to be sold and who? Go on, please keep going.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 We desperately need another winger in but I'd be thoroughly underwhelmed by this, to be honest.
lgfualol Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 Meh, he's alright but I wouldn't say he is much better than what we have and what we have is pretty poo
dylanlegend Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 5 minutes ago, AKCJ said: Mendy is always injured, Musa is about to be sold and who? Go on, please keep going. Sam Hughes, George Thomas, Marko Futacs https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/dbbef748-5441-4aef-8b27-fbe431b5d74d
Woodsey1727 Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 2 hours ago, Babylon said: Interesting, that fella is fairly reputable as well. He'd suit us with his ability to play in those front three positions behind the striker. For that reason I want him to sign
Rusko187 Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 10 minutes ago, dylanlegend said: You mustn't have watched him play recently. Still S*** Correct I haven't, but I've watched Gray and I don't think too much of him either.
HankMarvin Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 If we got 15m for musa and he only cost 15m to 20m It would be a decent swop. the stats in la liga are misleading because basically there are about 8 good teams (at a push) and 12 that are Championship level
dylanlegend Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 Just now, HankMarvin said: If we got 15m for musa and he only cost 15m to 20m It would be a decent swop. the stats in la liga are misleading because basically there are about 8 good teams (at a push) and 12 that are Championship level Thing is.... Hes scored 3 goals in 28 games... what stats? They are terrible
Barwell Fox Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 Inconsistent to poor when given opportunity at Man U. Did nothing at Dortmund. Poor at Sunderland. Falls well short of Albrighton and Gray and I would even rate Diabate higher than him. Let Everton have him - they can waste more of their money
Gerard Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 1 minute ago, AKCJ said: He's light years ahead of Diabate ffs. He and Gray have similar records. Why would we play Maddison and Iheanacho out of position having spent 50m on the pair? Iheanacho is a striker and he benefitted from the 4-4-2 that we played towards the end of last season as opposed to being a makeshift number 10. Iheanacho believes his best position is No10, Maddison playing No10 or as an inverted narrow right sided attacking midfielder with a full back playing wider won't be alien for him and he'll get more space. Januzaj won't come here and improve the first XI, believe me. He came onto the scene as the next big thing as a 17yo and failed to live up to expectation. There's a reason Man Utd got rid of him and Dortmund and Sunderland shipped him back after failed loan spells and he ends up in the relative backwater of Real Soceidad for £8m as he approaches his mid 20's. Even that De Bruyne tackle which scythed him in two in the Belgium training probably was because the contempt he showed for him as he's so crap. Will we ever learn? We keep buying proven mediocrity in or players that aren't needed for more money than they're worth and moan about not being able to move them on for years after. There were red flags for Benalouane, Slimani, Musa, Mendy, Iborra and Ward before they even arrived and Januzaj is another one. Buy without due diligence and you'll buy twice and repent at leisure. 3
dylanlegend Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 18 minutes ago, AKCJ said: He's light years ahead of Diabate ffs. He and Gray have similar records. Why would we play Maddison and Iheanacho out of position having spent 50m on the pair? Iheanacho is a striker and he benefitted from the 4-4-2 that we played towards the end of last season as opposed to being a makeshift number 10. Of course he's ahead of Diabate... but Diabate is on 20k a week and Januzaj would probably want about 80k a week. He'd be a massive waste of money... simple as that.
HighPeakFox Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 Just a calming word, particularly for @Gerard....he's not been bought, it's all just a rumour at this stage. 1
RoyFox Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 1 hour ago, Swan Lesta said: This is really quite interesting. I’ve no idea what it means or represents but the patterns are quite cool. The simple version is last year he was streets ahead of Albrighton and Gray in build up play, chance creation, assists, and finishing. If he plays like that he’d offer a new dynamic. Obviously there is risk as under Moyes he was a shell of himself having been shipped to Dortmund, then landing at Sunderland.
HankMarvin Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 12 minutes ago, dylanlegend said: Thing is.... Hes scored 3 goals in 28 games... what stats? They are terrible To the person that said last years player is so much better than the Sunderland version
lgfualol Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 19 minutes ago, dylanlegend said: Sam Hughes, George Thomas, Marko Futacs https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/dbbef748-5441-4aef-8b27-fbe431b5d74d Marko Futacs Forgot about him. He has 20 goals in 37 games in Croatia. Seems to have found his place.
Nick Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 6 minutes ago, RoyFox said: The simple version is last year he was streets ahead of Albrighton and Gray in build up play, chance creation, assists, and finishing. If he plays like that he’d offer a new dynamic. Obviously there is risk as under Moyes he was a shell of himself having been shipped to Dortmund, then landing at Sunderland. Cheers.
Harry96 Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 Definitely a talent. Has had issues with his attitude in the past though
MC Prussian Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 9 minutes ago, Gerard said: Januzaj won't come here and improve the first XI, believe me. He came onto the scene as the next big thing as a 17yo and failed to live up to expectation. There's a reason Man Utd got rid of him and Dortmund and Sunderland shipped him back after failed loan spells and he ends up in the relative backwater of Real Soceidad for £8m as he approaches his mid 20's. Even that De Bruyne tackle which scythed him in two in the Belgium training probably was because the contempt he showed for him as he's so crap. Will we ever learn? We keep buying proven mediocrity in or players that aren't needed for more money than they're worth and moan about not being able to move them on for years after. There were red flags for Benalouane, Slimani, Musa, Mendy, Iborra and Ward before they even arrived and Januzaj is another one. Buy without due diligence and you'll buy twice and repent at leisure. Here's a story: About six years ago, Chelsea loaned a then relatively unknown Belgian midfielder to Werder Bremen. Kevin De Bruyne was 21 years old at that point. He did rather well, returned to Chelsea in the summer of 2013, couldn't make an impact and was then sold to Wolfsburg. The rest is history. Morale of the story: Don't write players off just because you want to. Even though we've made some terrible mistakes in the transfer market in recent years, it doesn't mean we're bound to repeat them (regularly). Your level of panicking in all sorts of threads is astonishing. It's not your money we're wasting, btw. Have a little bit more faith in the powers to be - even though I share some of the scepticism. 1 1
Uncle Monty Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 (edited) 38 minutes ago, dylanlegend said: Mendy, Musa, Kaputzka... I could go on forever baby Love a good Home Alone reference. Edited 2 August 2018 by Uncle Monty 1
dylanlegend Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 12 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: To the person that said last years player is so much better than the Sunderland version Did I?
dylanlegend Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 8 minutes ago, MC Prussian said: Here's a story: About six years ago, Chelsea loaned a then relatively unknown Belgian midfielder to Werder Bremen. Kevin De Bruyne was 21 years old at that point. He did rather well, returned to Chelsea in the summer of 2013, couldn't make an impact and was then sold to Wolfsburg. The rest is history. Morale of the story: Don't write players off just because you want to. Even though we've made some terrible mistakes in the transfer market in recent years, it doesn't mean we're bound to repeat them (regularly). Your level of panicking in all sorts of threads is astonishing. It's not your money we're wasting, btw. Have a little bit more faith in the powers to be - even though I share some of the scepticism. To compare De Bruyne to Januzaj is embarrassing. Every knew KDB was going to be quality and his stats backed it up. What has anyone seen in Januzaj to suggest he'll be another other than bang average? 1
Dan Posted 2 August 2018 Posted 2 August 2018 1 hour ago, AKCJ said: Because our 3 wingers have scored or assisted just 48 times between them in 247 PL games. Mahrez scored or assisted for us 67 times in 137 games. We desperately need to replace him with someone who can chip in, reliably. Mahrez averaged a goal or assist every other game for us. Between Diabate, Gray and Albrighton we've been getting a goal or assist every 5 games. Mahrez was good for 19 goal contributions per season. Albrighton, Gray and Diabate BETWEEN THEM are good for 7 goal contributions a season. Jesus Christ
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