Man U 2-,Leicester 1 post match thread.

[Spudulike]

36 minutes ago, leicesterseddon said:

Overall I thought it was an encouraging performance, thought we deserved a draw.

 

Chilwell and Gray got themselves into some good positions, but their final ball is still very poor.

 

I'm also getting frustrated with Silva, keeps giving the ball away and keeping the ball far too long.

 

But happy overall and I think we should (touch wood) beat Wolves next week.

Really not sure what we're in for next week. I'm hoping that Wolves come a cropper in the opening matches as they've come up with a bit of an arrogance about them. Not too upset about Fulham losing today, either.

[whoareyaaa]

5 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

Just watched football focus. Showed Pogba and Shaws goals 10 times showed vardys once and just spent the whole time wanking over shaw and pogba. Barely mentioned us other than we played well but were dodgy at the back. The bias towards united and the top teams is just disgusting. Lineker needs to have a word!

You should have known this since thyey started spouting the top/big 6 bolllox, it also helps referees give descions to these sides as the refs will know they won't be under much scrunity compared to giving it to the lesser teams, It's just another way to keep the gap from the rich and poor. Boils my blood as well

[Farrington fox]

Just watched the highlights, honestly think we looked decent. Chilwell looks to have come on from last season. The boy Maddison will be sensational. And unlucky not to have come away with a point.

[Volpe Viola]

8 hours ago, Jacnah said:

Wow!

 

I didnt realise there there was a "dumbest comment ever on foxestalk" that we could all try and win.........I'll not bother though now that I've seen this magnificent effort. Bravo sir!

[Manwell Pablo]

Loads of positives to take from that game. Really good performance, we knocked it around really well created chances and throughly matched Manchester United at Old Trafford, really need to build on it and take three points next week.

 

Slight worries include if we are going to play Pereria on the wing we still need a right back and Wes is still starting games.

[The Doctor]

39 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Penalty for the tackle on Nacho? 

 

Yellow/Red for Fred in first half? 

Didn't seem a peno for me, would have been livid if it were given up the other end.

 

Kicking out at Gray on the floor? Yeah, don't know how he didn't even get a yellow for that, seen players sent off for less

[The Doctor]

1 minute ago, Manwell Pablo said:

 Wes is still starting games.

Don't think that's too much of a worry going forward. With Benkovic and Soyuncu only being in a day and Evans missing chunks of preseason, it was him or Benny, and Wes is still better than Benny

[Manwell Pablo]

1 minute ago, The Doctor said:

Don't think that's too much of a worry going forward. With Benkovic and Soyuncu only being in a day and Evans missing chunks of preseason, it was him or Benny, and Wes is still better than Benny

 

Well I thought that but Evans still made the bench ?‍♂️. Big believer if your fit enough to make the squad you are fit enough to start. Still you are right the strengthening we’ve done in that area does suggest he will struggle to hold on to his place.

[tetly]

Watched that last night and really enjoyed it! We played some nice football and in parts made United look bang average at times.

 

Peul has a plan and we need to give him time to blood his players in. It’s also good that the younger players are getting in and around the team. We are work in progress & will improve.

 

its obvious to most that Amartey and Morgan are the ones that need to be replaced. When all the players are available these are most likely to be changed. 

[StriderHiryu]

 

 

I hadn't seen this yet, but I think this was a far better analysis of the game than the one seen on Manchester United TV Sky Sports.

 

Matt Elliott on the panel too!

[Volpe Viola]

Seriously I hope Puel proves me wrong but his side to side possession football has got us few points. His substitutions are difficult to fathom, he cuts a forlorn figure on the touch line when things are not going to plan and at home when we have to break down two banks of four we’ve had no joy at all. He’s a bit like Peter Taylor, the more it becomes his team the worse the results get.

[st albans fox]

8 minutes ago, Volpe Viola said:

Seriously I hope Puel proves me wrong but his side to side possession football has got us few points. His substitutions are difficult to fathom, he cuts a forlorn figure on the touch line when things are not going to plan and at home when we have to break down two banks of four we’ve had no joy at all. He’s a bit like Peter Taylor, the more it becomes his team the worse the results get.

Sorry but I don’t believe you 

[Legend_in_blue]

Still annoyed with yesterday's result and having read back the all too brief analysis from the match reports on us, not the pages and pages on the opposition, I agree we should have got at least a draw from the game. 

 

In hindsight, if I was to be critical of Puel, I wouldn't have started Amartey at RB, especially when pushing Pereira further forward.  Then as our bad luck dictates, it's his error that leads to the first, and pretty much, the deciding goal.  3 minutes in I was gutted and that was hard to take.  Equally, the mistake could of come from anyone else and instead we could be reflecting on a decent performance overall from Amartey.  Such is bad luck and such is football.  As I said earlier in the week, make individual errors and you will be punished.

 

We really kicked on from there though and played some really nice stuff.  Very pleasing on the eye and some good attacking intent.  Tactically I think we got it pretty much spot on and our central midfield were very effective at breaking play and finding forward passes.  Maddison clearly has a confidence about him and a good footballing brain to go with it as well.  Some very clever runs and tracking back between the lines effectively.  Once he gets up to speed with Vardy I can see that causing lots of problems.  Nacho needs to start dominating teams more and for me last night he put in more effort, but still could do more.  Put himself about more, demand the ball, look more animated.  Something about him is still missing - it's there, he has the ability to do well, just needs more belief.

 

Particular mentions to Pereira, Chilwell, Gray and Ndidi last night I thought they were excellent.  Chilwell just needs to work on those final balls.

 

Some very positive signs moving forwards and having watched Wolves this afternoon, expect us to turn up next week and do them over.  Onwards and upwards.

 

 

[gw_leics772]

3 hours ago, Gerbold said:

I got the impression, from RL commentary, thet he was just knackered.

Fair do's if true.  I certainly don't want to bash puel but was worried he could be carrying on into this season with weird subs. We certainly lost something when he went off.

 

I didn't notice him being knackered  on sky but then I wasn't particularly watching for it.

 

I was impressed last night knowing most problems will be sorted as the season goes on.

 

Glad nacho started as he deserved it but wasn't a patch on Jamie who will now win his place back.

 

Hopefully Pereira at rb next game, someone in for Morgan.

 

Was well impressed with chilwell on the attack and I'm one who hasn't quite understood the hype so far, and Gray defensively was excellent and good moments going forwards.

 

Bring on wolves

[fuchsntf]

2 hours ago, Volpe Viola said:

Seriously I hope Puel proves me wrong but his side to side possession football has got us few points. His substitutions are difficult to fathom, he cuts a forlorn figure on the touch line when things are not going to plan and at home when we have to break down two banks of four we’ve had no joy at all. He’s a bit like Peter Taylor, the more it becomes his team the worse the results get.

Wait and see

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then apologise...please

[Dan]

Unlucky to lose but doesn't help when you give goals away like we do. It's criminal that two years running we've gone behind on the opening day within 2 minutes. Thankfully though it was a makeshift defence and I expect this to be far less frequent when the new defenders are settled in.

 

We knocked the ball around really well at times I felt. Couldn't believe the ease we played it around them at times. The worry for me is for all our possession, we didn't really create a great deal.

 

Referee utterly useless. Shouldn't be reffing either team again this season, god knows how he can really.

 

Considering who it was we should be quite proud of our performance although I do worry that they were there for the taking and we've completely let them off the hook. I'll be amazed if they make the top four.

 

We should beat Wolves though in my opinion. The bookies also agree.

Edited 12 August 2018 by Dan LCFC

[WigstonWanderer]

21 hours ago, foxy boxing said:

it's good that we are having more possession but we need to do more with it other than play it around. we all knew that when we heard Amartey would be playing that he would be the weak link in defence. lots of positives from the game but we need to see much much more from this team.

Actually I didn’t (might be just me). I was rather hoping he’d do well. I think the mistake he made for the pen affected his confidence and he obviously didn’t have a very good match after, though not as bad as being made out here.

 

He has been rather unlucky, or perhaps he really isn’t up to PL standard. Every time he gets near a starting position some disaster occurs, red card, injury, now this pen. He has always looked a bit awkward with the ball, but I still think he might come good if he gets the chance.

[st albans fox]

1 minute ago, WigstonWanderer said:

Actually I didn’t (might be just me). I was rather hoping he’d do well. I think the mistake he made for the pen affected his confidence and he obviously didn’t have a very good match after, though not as bad as being made out here.

 

He has been rather unlucky, or perhaps he really isn’t up to PL standard. Every time he gets near a starting position some disaster occurs, red card, injury, now this pen. He has always looked a bit awkward with the ball, but I still think he might come good if he gets the chance.

The fact is that he should be cover, not starting. We can hope that puel felt albrighton and Ghezzal weren’t fit enough or ready to start on the right side and that’s led to his decision to play amartey behind Ricardo. 

[old koppite]

Sorry I’m slow on this one and mentioned already, but I’ve just read the Dion Dublin BBC “report” on the game. What a prat. Always liked the bloke, especially with his Ieicester connections , bit gone off him now. That was not a report of a football game, but just a Man Un fans perspective of an update of where they are, and a few bits of what they did in the game. I can’t bear to read it again, but something about going after us for the first 20 minutes!! And then even! What!

His BBC boss should tell him to actually write about the action, balance of play, goal attempts etc, other wise get him a job at MUFC.

‘Ucking  ‘ell, him and moaning JM “ they’re spent more than us” can do one. And no, JM is not a genius playing us and the media- he’s become a mardy, boring, ungracious, whinger who is managing to stifle the huge amount of talent and resources he has. 

Edited 12 August 2018 by old koppite
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[StriderHiryu]

 

These are the average positions for each player on the pitch, I found this quite interesting as it shows our attacking intent. Look how high up Chilwell is! I have a feeling Ricardo would also be equally as high, but because he swapped to right back after Ghezall came on it is dropped back a bit. Compare that to Manchester United's average positions and you can see the extent to how much we pushed them back.

[FLAN]

Or th extent to which they say back on a 1-0 lead. 

[StriderHiryu]

16 minutes ago, F1_AN said:

Or th extent to which they say back on a 1-0 lead. 

That was definitely their game plan and they nearly cut us open again with the Mata miss and Kasper's increidble save against Lukaku. 

 

But given that we often rightly complained about being too negative or not really going for it a lot of the time last season, I think the graphic gives us renewed optimism that it won't be the case as we really did push on. In fact I think it's great that even after going 2-0 down we still pushed on and had Vardy's volley, then his equaliser and then Kasper actually got a head to the corner at the death but put it wide. A lot of other teams would have gone into "damage limitation" mode after losing by two but we still fancied our chances. I think if we had another 5 minutes we might just have done it!

 

We will learn a lot more about the team in the next match, but for me I think it was one of our best performances under Puel and on a par with Chelsea away last season (even though we drew 0-0) and Southampton away where Shinji played his best ever game for us. If we could play like we did in those three games consistently we'd be a really good team to watch and would get good results.

[ARM1968]

Come the end of the season this might be judged a decent result. Can see a lot of teams coming away from Old Trafford with 3 or 4 put past them. 

[STUHILL]

9 minutes ago, ARM1968 said:

Come the end of the season this might be judged a decent result. Can see a lot of teams coming away from Old Trafford with 3 or 4 put past them. 

with Mourinho still there? I can't.

[ARM1968]

23 minutes ago, STUHILL said:

with Mourinho still there? I can't.

Wait and see oh ye of little faith.