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41 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

The first thing I thought when I saw this was 'he really doesn't look the type'

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/apr/18/internet-troll-jailed-over-threats-and-racist-messages-to-mps

 

Astonishingly, he's unemployed and lives with his mother.

 

Who'd have guessed it?

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Really is fascinating how the internet appears to have turned some people into complete psychopaths. 

 

He gets to the age of 51 without ever getting arrested or being in trouble then lands himself a ten month prison sentence because he wants to abuse politicians. It's mental.

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8 minutes ago, MattP said:

Really is fascinating how the internet appears to have turned some people into complete psychopaths. 

 

He gets to the age of 51 without ever getting arrested or being in trouble then lands himself a ten month prison sentence because he wants to abuse politicians. It's mental.

 

It's the keyboard warrior phenomenon.

 

Prior to the internet, these reclusive misfits sat harmlessly masturbating in their childhood bedroom, but on the internet they can be the person who they imagine they are.

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1 minute ago, Buce said:

It's the keyboard warrior phenomenon.

 

Prior to the internet, these reclusive misfits sat harmlessly masturbating in their childhood bedroom, but on the internet they can be the person who they imagine they are.

Half the problem is the anonymity of it, they assume they can get away with it as nobody knows who they are.

 

The Internet shouldn't be any different to real life - everyone should be allowed to know who everyone is.

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3 minutes ago, MattP said:

Half the problem is the anonymity of it, they assume they can get away with it as nobody knows who they are.

 

The Internet shouldn't be any different to real life - everyone should be allowed to know who everyone is.

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We don't have that problem on here.

 

I just assume everyone else is Moosebreath.

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3 hours ago, MattP said:

Half the problem is the anonymity of it, they assume they can get away with it as nobody knows who they are.

 

The Internet shouldn't be any different to real life - everyone should be allowed to know who everyone is.

Bit like the matrix

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3 hours ago, Buce said:

 

It's the keyboard warrior phenomenon.

 

Prior to the internet, these reclusive misfits sat harmlessly masturbating in their childhood bedroom, but on the internet they can be the person who they imagine they are.

 

3 hours ago, MattP said:

Half the problem is the anonymity of it, they assume they can get away with it as nobody knows who they are.

 

The Internet shouldn't be any different to real life - everyone should be allowed to know who everyone is.

I'm half and half on this one.

 

Getting real identities for internet discussions would probably curtail a lot of trolling and I'm all for that, but at the same time that anonymity is crucial to a lot of people in a lot of very dangerous places around the world risking everything so their countries might be freer.

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20 hours ago, Izzy said:

Good luck George - I know exactly how you feel.

 

Great to hear people in the public eye talking about such a difficult subject

It surprised me reading that because we've always been taught that you can't assume someone's disabled status just by looking at them, so surely disabled individuals are more used than anybody to 'normal' looking people legitimately using their loos and parking bays, right? Apparently wrong, literally just witnessed a bloke struggling who was struggling to walk with a cane have a go at the person leaving the bogs because they didn't look disabled enough to him.  It's not a competition. :huh:  

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7 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said:

It surprised me reading that because we've always been taught that you can't assume someone's disabled status just by looking at them, so surely disabled individuals are more used than anybody to 'normal' looking people legitimately using their loos and parking bays, right? Apparently wrong, literally just witnessed a bloke struggling who was struggling to walk with a cane have a go at the person leaving the bogs because they didn't look disabled enough to him.  It's not a competition. :huh:  

I can clearly remember an instance when I had my ileostomy bag where I was emptying/changing it in the disabled toilet (I was given a 'radar' key by my stoma nurse). There was loud banging on the door and shouts of "Hurry Up!!" so I replied "Be done in a minute!!"

 

When I walked out there was an overweight lady in a wheelchair and her helper pushing. The helper shouts to me "For gods sake, we've been waiting ages and there's absolutely nothing wrong with you!" I just stood there, lifted my t-shirt and showed her my bag while her jaw dropped and she looked sheepishly to the floor.

 

Thing is, my guess is that the lady in the wheelchair may not have actually been 'disabled' but was just so obese that she couldn't walk.

 

But like you say, it's not a competition...

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The Zizek v Peterson PPV debate for anyone interested - it's pretty good. Both wonderful intellectuals from either side of the political divide.

 

Another pretty damning indictment on our academic institutions on both sides of the Atlantic that these two are both at times being ostracised for daring to think and believe different things from what student bodies deem are acceptable. 

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9 minutes ago, MattP said:

The Zizek v Peterson PPV debate for anyone interested - it's pretty good. Both wonderful intellectuals from either side of the political divide.

 

Another pretty damning indictment on our academic institutions on both sides of the Atlantic that these two are both at times being ostracised for daring to think and believe different things from what student bodies deem are acceptable. 

three hours tho

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3 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

three hours tho

Well worth it.

 

It's actually about 2 as it's a half hour statement from each then an hour or debate with questions.

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1 hour ago, MattP said:

Well worth it.

 

It's actually about 2 as it's a half hour statement from each then an hour or debate with questions.

3 mins is my limit these days as by then I've forgotten what they said at the beginning.

 

Strap lines and head lines were made for us oldies.:teehee:

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Good to see the united political response to the killing of the young journalist in Derry, with unequivocal condemnation from Sinn Fein and Arlene Foster making a rare trip to a nationalist Catholic area to make a joint stand and reportedly being applauded by local residents. They now need to take it further and somehow deal with the SF-DUP disputes that have collapsed power-sharing at Stormont. That vacuum must be feeding the recent growth in dissident republican violence.

 

I'd guess that, if Brexit uncertainty is a factor, it's only a minor one at this stage. Some of the tiny minority of bigots behind the New IRA would need no excuse. But anyone who thinks that there's little risk of a hard border acting as a spark for a spiral of such violence needs to wake up. This killing was an act of reckless stupidity in response to a police raid looking for arms (reportedly following intelligence that violence was planned over Easter). It's entirely obvious that people like this, who are itching for opportunities to restart the "armed struggle" would absolutely love the idea of a hard border with customs officers, or supporting police to take pot shots at. The response of Loyalist extremists if "one of their own" gets killed at the border is obvious - and there is a minority of people on both sides who'd love to spark the sectarian conflict again. Reports say that 2 lads in their late teens have been arrested over the killing....so lads born AFTER the peace agreement/GFA.

 

You don't need to listen to me. Listen instead to the words of this disgusting old bigot from the dissident republican movement: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/apr/19/new-ira-and-saoradh-face-backlash-over-lyra-mckee

 

"By reviving talk of a hard border, Brexit was a huge opportunity, [dissident republican Brian Kenna] said. “It’s not the reason why people would resist British rule, but Brexit just gives it focus, gives it a physical picture. It’s a huge help.” Security forces had infiltrated and surveilled republican ranks but resistance would continue and grow, said Kenna. “The republican movement is very adaptable. Necessity is the mother of invention.” The campaign would be smaller than that waged by the Provisional IRA during the Troubles, but could still be “impactful” and “very difficult to stop”, he claimed. A week after the interview, the New IRA was accused of sending letters with crude explosives to transport hubs in Britain. Saoradh representatives denied any knowledge of the letters. In the absence of a militarised border or troops on the streets, republican socialist ideology was incentivising recruits, said Kenna. “Young people are now getting involved in an armed campaign without a personal experience of oppression,” he said.

 

That last bit is worth re-reading. This vile individual is boasting about indoctrinating impressionable young people who have no experience of British army on their streets etc. Indoctrinating them into violence and giving them weapons to kill people....a task that will be much easier for him if a border with customs and police is re-established (and the local border is only just outside Derry).

 

Politicians in N. Ireland and the wider UK need to make it a priority to get power-sharing running and to avoid handing ammunition to violent bigots like this.....not necessarily an anti-Brexit point; an anti-hard border point.

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It really is a terrible story.

 

Both sides near to be careful on this, those chasing political policy resentlessly with no care or consideration for the GFA but also those using the subject to try and stop Brexit altogether - they are giving the terrorists an excuse to start again, whatever happens there is no logic to condone acts like this this which many will.

 

I'm actually going to read the Good Friday Agreement over the next few weeks, I was quote struck by some of things I heard in a debate on it with Peter Hitchins and if a lot of what he said was true I'm surprised so many loyalists voted for it.

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