Kopfkino Posted 7 June 2019 Share Posted 7 June 2019 10 minutes ago, MattP said: It's just funny how you produced the Brexit Party racism but didn't even mention the antisemitism of the Labour candidate and victor. I mean we can all see it. Speaking of the old BNP as you have suddenly enjoyed to, would you like to remind us which party most of their councillors defected to? Or maybe who their ex leader now wants us to vote for? https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2018/04/nick-griffin-declares-his-support-jeremy-corbyn If you are covered in shit don't criticise those who live in the sewer. Ah who cares about racism if you get British Rail back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 7 June 2019 Share Posted 7 June 2019 2 minutes ago, Kopfkino said: Ah who cares about racism if you get British Rail back It's not racism it's only the JOOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 7 June 2019 Share Posted 7 June 2019 22 minutes ago, Buce said: Yeah, that’s true. Farage and his people are more equal opportunity racists - a much broader spectrum of hatred. So long as it’s only the good racists who win, that’s all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 7 June 2019 Share Posted 7 June 2019 3 minutes ago, Strokes said: So long as it’s only the good racists who win, that’s all that matters. It's a bit like dropping bombs - always nicer when the left is doing it. It's not over until the fat lady yells "fascist". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 7 June 2019 Share Posted 7 June 2019 17 minutes ago, Strokes said: So long as it’s only the good racists who win, that’s all that matters. I think I could be an excellent racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 2 hours ago, MattP said: It's a bit like dropping bombs - always nicer when the left is doing it. It's not over until the fat lady yells "fascist". Plus sized ciswoman. You Nazi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 Wow, it appears Friday night is alright for mudslinging. Is it possible to suggest that while Labour isn't antisemitic itself it contains some antisemites, possibly at high levels, and while the Brexit Party isn't full-on racist itself it contains some people who have a problem with brown people because of the colour of their skin and nothing more...possibly at high levels? Can that be argued here or is nuance totally dead? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 5 hours ago, leicsmac said: Wow, it appears Friday night is alright for mudslinging. Is it possible to suggest that while Labour isn't antisemitic itself it contains some antisemites, possibly at high levels, and while the Brexit Party isn't full-on racist itself it contains some people who have a problem with brown people because of the colour of their skin and nothing more...possibly at high levels? Can that be argued here or is nuance totally dead? The Labour party is now openly campaigning and selecting candidates who fall foul of the IHR definition on antisemitism, this is clearly way beyond "some people" in the higher party. Another MP accused today.... https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-mp-rupa-huq-accused-of-taunting-employee-over-star-of-david-bag-990d2m08n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, MattP said: The Labour party is now openly campaigning and selecting candidates who fall foul of the IHR definition on antisemitism, this is clearly way beyond "some people" in the higher party. Another MP accused today.... https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-mp-rupa-huq-accused-of-taunting-employee-over-star-of-david-bag-990d2m08n Unless everyone in the Labour party is an antisemite then "some" or perhaps "most" is correct, thank you very much. I was extremely careful in my use of language in the above post to put it that way for a reason, viz. accuracy, and I'm sticking by it. I'm not saying there isn't a problem either way but the lack of nuance does all arguments no favours. Edited 8 June 2019 by leicsmac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 2 minutes ago, leicsmac said: Unless everyone in the Labour party is an antisemite then "some" or perhaps "most" is correct, thank you very much. I was extremely careful in my use of language in the above post to put it that way for a reason, viz. accuracy, and I'm sticking by it. I'm not saying there isn't a problem either way but the lack of nuance does all arguments no favours. Not everyone in the Met Police had to be racist to describe it as institutionally racist. We'll find out more when the EHRC investigation is complete but at the minute it's starting to look pretty obvious it's a antisemitic party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48564722 Gove regrets taking cocaine. Nobody regrets taking cocaine unless it’s the day after or social services, the NHS or the police are now playing a role in your life as a result. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 13 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48564722 Gove regrets taking cocaine. Nobody regrets taking cocaine unless it’s the day after or social services, the NHS or the police are now playing a role in your life as a result. It'll soon be quicker and easier to list those that haven't used drugs. I guess if they all admit to it we can say that's ok then it's normal and acceptable. Hmm I wonder what's next on the taboo's list they'll all start admitting too that we can normalise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 51 minutes ago, MattP said: Not everyone in the Met Police had to be racist to describe it as institutionally racist. We'll find out more when the EHRC investigation is complete but at the minute it's starting to look pretty obvious it's a antisemitic party. Fair enough, I don't actually have a horse in this race bit I did take a look at the exchanges last night and saw IMO rather more absolutism than was necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guvnor Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 Failing Grayling now involved with noise activated cameras, to be trialed on Hampshire roads. Primarily it would seem to fine motorbikes with after market exhausts. Looks like following complaints from residents living in chocolate box Hamlets. Fcuking hell it's going to be an expensive Sunday blast for Harley Davidson riders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 49 minutes ago, The Guvnor said: Failing Grayling now involved with noise activated cameras, to be trialed on Hampshire roads. Primarily it would seem to fine motorbikes with after market exhausts. Looks like following complaints from residents living in chocolate box Hamlets. Fcuking hell it's going to be an expensive Sunday blast for Harley Davidson riders. It's about time that motorbikes and some car owners were fined for breaking the law on sound emissions. I've never understood how motorbikes get away with it all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 50 minutes ago, The Guvnor said: Failing Grayling now involved with noise activated cameras, to be trialed on Hampshire roads. Primarily it would seem to fine motorbikes with after market exhausts. Looks like following complaints from residents living in chocolate box Hamlets. Fcuking hell it's going to be an expensive Sunday blast for Harley Davidson riders. It’s sports bike riders too with the baffle removal! Im just waiting to ride through some country road with my legal exhaust and go by one of these cameras and see a few neighbourhood watch yocals starting up a backfiring generator hooked up to loudspeakers from the side of the road. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 1 hour ago, Swan Lesta said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48564722 Gove regrets taking cocaine. Nobody regrets taking cocaine unless it’s the day after or social services, the NHS or the police are now playing a role in your life as a result. Presumably, if he becomes PM, he'll be giving an amnesty to people convicted of possession of class A drugs then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 5 minutes ago, Buce said: Presumably, if he becomes PM, he'll be giving an amnesty to people convicted of possession of class A drugs then. Absolutely - they’ll be no hypocrisy on the need for decriminalisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 All the Tory leadership candidates are ex smack heads yet poor old TM got battered for running through fields of wheat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fox Covert Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 1 hour ago, Swan Lesta said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48564722 Gove regrets taking cocaine. Nobody regrets taking cocaine unless it’s the day after or social services, the NHS or the police are now playing a role in your life as a result. I think Gove is a lamentable apology for a human being and thoroughly unelectable however I cannot hold anything against him for admitting to drugs use twenty years ago. Likewise Rory Stewart, who I have a good deal more respect for and is one of the better candidates because he appears to be transparently honest and has actually done something with his life outside the cloistered world of Westminster politics. Can't see these stories going down too well with the grassroots membership of the Tory party, who have the final say once the number of candidates is down to two. The legendary 'Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells' correspondent in the Daily Telegraph still epitomises a lot of Tories. Is this what Dennis Skinner really meant when he said that half the Tories are crooks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 10 minutes ago, Izzy said: All the Tory leadership candidates are ex smack heads yet poor old TM got battered for running through fields of wheat A slight exaggeration but your point is well made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 3 minutes ago, The Fox Covert said: I think Gove is a lamentable apology for a human being and thoroughly unelectable however I cannot hold anything against him for admitting to drugs use twenty years ago. Likewise Rory Stewart, who I have a good deal more respect for and is one of the better candidates because he appears to be transparently honest and has actually done something with his life outside the cloistered world of Westminster politics. Can't see these stories going down too well with the grassroots membership of the Tory party, who have the final say once the number of candidates is down to two. The legendary 'Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells' correspondent in the Daily Telegraph still epitomises a lot of Tories. Is this what Dennis Skinner really meant when he said that half the Tories are crooks? No, he meant half the Tories are crooks, the other half are junkies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 4 minutes ago, The Fox Covert said: Can't see these stories going down too well with the grassroots membership of the Tory party Nah! They're probably all snorting these days but it'll be the good clean stuff. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nickfosse Posted 8 June 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 8 June 2019 6 hours ago, Swan Lesta said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48564722 Gove regrets taking cocaine. Nobody regrets taking cocaine unless it’s the day after or social services, the NHS or the police are now playing a role in your life as a result. Funny old world we live in. You can fess up to using illegal class A drugs as an adult and still run for Prime Minister, but a footballer gets disciplined and fined for offensive opinions he shared on twitter as a child. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 8 June 2019 Share Posted 8 June 2019 Everything is so extreme in politics at the moment. The Left are all communist, lazy, student, anti-semitic scumbags. The Right are all racist, coffin-dodging facists. The Centre, well this is all of their fault in the first place. There is no compromise, no common ground, be nice to each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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