More goals - Brendan

[Stevosevic]

This is good to hear. 

 

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'I know where we need to improve, we don't have enough goals in the team, simple as that,' he said. 'There's not enough creativity but let's see how we can work and make it better. If we can't, we need to do something about it.

'Jamie is on 10 goals, the next one is Maddison on five. There's clearly an area we need to address. Wingers need to understand, no matter how young or old you are, that your job is simple — to create and score goals. If you work a season and score two goals as a winger, that's not good enough. It's about getting them more aggressive and pressing the game higher, to get more chances.

 

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'When I went to Liverpool they'd scored 47 goals and within two years they were the first Liverpool team to score over 100 goals. Hopefully in time I can do the same here and create a really dynamic team. Speed, power, creativity.'

 

Rodgers says Vardy is his focal point and is already relishing working with the 32-year-old. 'I love those sort of players - the ones who are bit cunning and have a bit of edge to them,' he said. 'I first came across him when I was Swansea manager and he was at Fleetwood. Someone mentioned that we need to go and see him, £1million they were taking.

'His story is amazing and I'm so happy he's here. I've always wanted that striker at the top end to press, that's so important for my teams.

'I've also been impressed by the fact he's also very tactical aware. This isn't just a boy who runs and scores, he thinks about the game. That's why he will hopefully maximise the extent to which he can play.

 

He's had two chances since I've been here and scored two goals. It's our job to create more chances for him. He still has the hunger.'

[reynard]

Well he's talking a lot of sense so let's see over the next few weeks if he can start to deliver.

 

It has been so obvious this season that we start so many games with so few players capable of scoring goals on a regular basis.

[Mike Oxlong]

Like the bit about wingers needing to create and score goals 

[Collymore]

Mentioned a while back the worrying amount of times Puel's team had failed to score over more than 2 goals in a game. We did finally manage it against Wolves but it's no use if you lose the game! 

 

 

[Guest]

And here I was thinking we needed to be less creative and score less goals.

[s_mac1997]

He's certainly making all the right noises; but as ever, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

[Fox92]

Yep. Mahrez was the last winger (maybe even midfielder) we had that scored and assisted. Albrighton doesn't offer enough in that department and Gray is too inconsistent. Big hopes for Maddison as Rodgers seems to want to move him closer to Vardy.

[StanSP]

Encouraging to hear. 

 

Gotta be clinical and ruthless in this division, let alone fans wanting entertaining football and being naturally demanding. 

I don't think our problem has been creating chances, it's putting then away. When you have a restrictive manager like Puel, it puts even more pressure on the players. 

Let's hope with Rodgers we're a bit more expressive and put away more chances. 

[yorkie1999]

We need the players to be greedy when they have a chance to score, times I’ve watched Chilwell have a chance of a shot, only to try and lay the ball off which inevitably leads to an oppo defender getting the ball.

[Collymore]

23 minutes ago, Guest said:

And here I was thinking we needed to be less creative and score less goals.

The thing is if we were a few more points worse off and were in a proper relegation fight then what you said might happen. 

 

Rodgers philosophy of scoring goals isn't something that should be taken for granted. 

[Collymore]

15 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

We need the players to be greedy when they have a chance to score, times I’ve watched Chilwell have a chance of a shot, only to try and lay the ball off which inevitably leads to an oppo defender getting the ball.

Said this loads of times about Chilwell. Many of the pundits and other fans are salvating over him but he's simply atrocious when he gets into that final phase. He's so bad I wonder if the opposition know that and just allow him the space because they all know what he's going to do.

 

I really hope Rodgers can work on this with him and get him more ruthless around goal. I wonder if swapping him with Ricardo in match every now and then giving him the opportunity to cut in on his left foot might help him (like Marhez used to) 

 

He's got so much potential though, if he cracks the final transition we could have the new Garath Bale on our hands. 

[StriderHiryu]

Yes Brendan! Finally someone in charge who says what we’ve all been thinking. Vardy is a 20 goals a season striker - he’s done it twice! Imagine if instead of one chance a game he got three instead? We’d score far more goals!

 

For the last 18 months Vardy has been too isolated and players like Barnes, Gray, Albrighton aren’t close enough. Only Riyad really got forward to join in and offer a different threat and he’s gone now. It’s easy to talk the talk so we’ve got to start walking the walk! Think we will still see indifferent performances this season but hopefully BR can sort this for next season. 

 

 

[Haywood_6]

18 minutes ago, Collymore said:

Said this loads of times about Chilwell. Many of the pundits and other fans are salvating over him but he's simply atrocious when he gets into that final phase. He's so bad I wonder if the opposition know that and just allow him the space because they all know what he's going to do.

 

I really hope Rodgers can work on this with him and get him more ruthless around goal. I wonder if swapping him with Ricardo in match every now and then giving him the opportunity to cut in on his left foot might help him (like Marhez used to) 

 

He's got so much potential though, if he cracks the final transition we could have the new Garath Bale on our hands. 

I honestly think Chilwell is a nice player on the eye but doesn't really have that killer instinct like Bale. How many times does he get in an area to cross/shoot then make a complete mess of it

[Tielemans63]

I get what people are saying but it's worth remembering that Chilly is only 22 and he's a bloody good player for his age. Not too many 22 year old LBs who are better than he is. He's got better every year since he first appeared on the scene and I'm convinced his play in the final third will improve with experience.

[Guest]

47 minutes ago, Collymore said:

The thing is if we were a few more points worse off and were in a proper relegation fight then what you said might happen. 

 

Rodgers philosophy of scoring goals isn't something that should be taken for granted. 

That's fair enough and I'm glad he's our manager. I like his approach and if he can coax more goals out of our team, especially the wide players and midfielders like he mentioned, then brilliant.

 

BUT it's fairly obvious he's absolutely world class at telling people exactly what they want to hear. That's not necessarily a slight on him but I'm personally not going to get particularly excited about or read too much into him coming out and saying "scoring goals good, conceding goals bad". 

[Guest]

He does seem to be a bit of a talker.

 

"I"ll die for the club" 

 

Everyone in every football team wants more goals and to concede less. It's actions that matter, not talk.

 

Playing 3 at the back with the re-introduction of Morgan after 2 days at the club wasn't a clever action.

 

[smr]

Sounds like it could be a dream finish to vardys career. Ive got him as captain for the third week running in my ff. Different player he will be now compared to under Puel.

[Collymore]

5 minutes ago, FIF said:

He does seem to be a bit of a talker.

 

"I"ll die for the club" 

 

Everyone in every football team wants more goals and to concede less. It's actions that matter, not talk.

 

Playing 3 at the back with the re-introduction of Morgan after 2 days at the club wasn't a clever action.

 

Playing Morgan was a stroke of genius. He knew the early days are about getting everyone on his side, especially the big characters who can influence the dressing room, he had already talked Big Wes up in the media and saw the opportunity to give him a start away to a relatively tough opposition. I'd be surprised if he started today though...

[StriderHiryu]

17 minutes ago, FIF said:

He does seem to be a bit of a talker.

 

"I"ll die for the club" 

 

Everyone in every football team wants more goals and to concede less. It's actions that matter, not talk.

 

Playing 3 at the back with the re-introduction of Morgan after 2 days at the club wasn't a clever action.

 

Dieing for the club is clearly Car Salesman talk but he’s engaging fans and players in ways Puel never did. Puel never said the team was short of goals and was trying to address it so this talk is welcome from me. 

 

Regarding 3 at the back I agree it was a failure but a few things about it:

- Often Watford play two up top with 2/3 of Gray, Deeney or Success but Gracia changed the system slightly against us. Deufoleu has been partnering Deeney recently but played deeper. His influence was largely negated during the game. 

- Watford created very few big chances against us after the first goal. Of course they did score their next big chance and both forwards did end up scoring. 

- Rodgers playing Morgan in the first game could be an “olive branch” tactic. We have a strong dressing room so getting them all on side instead of creating conflict after 2 days is smart man management. Puel was fired largely I suspect because he lost the players. 

 

Like I say I thought the 3 at the back was a failure as we lost an attacking option when trying to build attacks but our new manager should be daring to try new things. Ranieri moved us away from the 352 that kept us up to 4411. It turned out to be a good move!

 

 

 

[jayfox26]

Let's start today then Brendan. 5-0 will do nicely with a goal each for Vardy, Maddison, Barnes, Gray and Tielemens. 

[Arriba Los Zorros]

5 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Let's start today then Brendan. 5-0 will do nicely with a goal each for Vardy, Maddison, Barnes, Gray and Tielemens. 

Naaa, it's all about the 5-4 mate 'we're gonna score one more than yer'

[Fox92]

1 hour ago, Haywood_6 said:

I honestly think Chilwell is a nice player on the eye but doesn't really have that killer instinct like Bale. How many times does he get in an area to cross/shoot then make a complete mess of it

Bale didn't have that killer instinct at 22. This is Chilwell's first season where he's made the position his own. If he was complete he wouldn't be at Leicester.

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Collymore said:

Playing Morgan was a stroke of genius. He knew the early days are about getting everyone on his side, especially the big characters who can influence the dressing room, he had already talked Big Wes up in the media and saw the opportunity to give him a start away to a relatively tough opposition. I'd be surprised if he started today though...

I appreciate your view. Equally it could be seen as a weak move. Morgan isn't the future of the club and surely won't be a part of Rodger's plans - CB is easily the best position of decent depth we have in the squad. Wes is a big and important character but I'm sure he's a nice guy too. Brendan could have given a much better sign if he wanted a 3 at the back by bringing in Soyuncu. If he wants to keep Morgan at the club for his leadership qualities I really don't have a problem with that but let's not play him unless there is an emergency and let's pay him for the role he has, not the role he had 2 contracts ago. We need the money to bring young talent in.

 

 

5 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

Dieing for the club is clearly Car Salesman talk but he’s engaging fans and players in ways Puel never did. Puel never said the team was short of goals and was trying to address it so this talk is welcome from me. 

 

Regarding 3 at the back I agree it was a failure but a few things about it:

- Often Watford play two up top with 2/3 of Gray, Deeney or Success but Gracia changed the system slightly against us. Deufoleu has been partnering Deeney recently but played deeper. His influence was largely negated during the game. 

- Watford created very few big chances against us after the first goal. Of course they did score their next big chance and both forwards did end up scoring. 

- Rodgers playing Morgan in the first game could be an “olive branch” tactic. We have a strong dressing room so getting them all on side instead of creating conflict after 2 days is smart man management. Puel was fired largely I suspect because he lost the players. 

 

Like I say I thought the 3 at the back was a failure as we lost an attacking option when trying to build attacks but our new manager should be daring to try new things. Ranieri moved us away from the 352 that kept us up to 4411. It turned out to be a good move!

 

 

 

You always make good and well thought out comments but I hope that you don't mind if I don't ALWAYS agree with them. I hate the "car salesman" talk. How anyone can fall for such absolute rubbish is beyond me. However I'm not confusing talk with ability - too many on here do and certainly did with Puel, I'm sure that BR is quality and will help us. Puel didn't need to say the team was short of goals, neither does any manager, when it's obvious, it's obvious.

 

I don't really think many teams play with 2 attackers anymore which is why I'm a proponent of 2 at the back and still playing WBs and pushing them up. If we have the right 2 CBs we don't need anyone else to cover a sole attacker. 

 

If BR thought that Watford were going to play with 2 up front surely BR should have realised he'd made an error and then taken off a CB - especially seeing as we went 1 down so quickly and therefore needed to chase the game against a very solid defensive formation. He didn't, I find that worrying, but again I realise that he has the rest of this season to work out what works and what doesn't and what he needs to change.

 

I hate this idea of pandering to players who aren't your best options and therefore I can't agree with the "get them onside" argument. Show them who is the boss and bin off players who want to cause trouble. If they are that bad then ban them from your ground.

 

Again I have no problem with formation changes or player changes, I just think that bringing Morgan into that game was a mistake and BR didn't adjust once he had seen his mistake.

[jayfox26]

8 minutes ago, Arriba Los Zorros said:

Naaa, it's all about the 5-4 mate 'we're gonna score one more than yer'

Yeh true. Maybe a clean sheet is asking too much! 

[foxy boxing]

it's obvious we need more goals throughout the team, goals win games and the enphasis of the team has been to get the ball to Vardy and he will score the goals needed but we need to be more expansive than that with more goals from midfield and the wingers.