Brendan Rodgers

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21 hours ago, Farrington fox said:

Anyone know what CP is doing now? Bet he looks at our recent results and thinks ........

Craig Shakespeare .....

[PhillippaT]

8 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said:

Couldn't really choose a better manager than him, considering the club's philosophy and needing someone who can both motivate the players and mould the young ones excellently.

Have quite high hopes for next season.

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He lives just outside of Whitwick, after moving in a couple of weeks ago, according to a source within the club.

Nearly chose a property near Cossington.

He better not pronounce it Whit-wick, that's all...  We'll need yet another manager if he does!

[weller54]

22 hours ago, Farrington fox said:

Anyone know what CP is doing now? Bet he looks at our recent results and thinks ........

.. this yacht is qualiteee. 

[rico]

Could Brendan be up for Manager of the Month?

[Livid]

Anyone booked for the Q&A session at the KP next week ?

 

https://www.lcfc.com/news/1153922/brendan-rodgers-to-host-qa-session-for-supporters

 

I signed up and then instantly realised I'm already committed to a birthday meal.

 

Just hope someone mentions to him how important an FA Cup win would be to us, or at least having a go.

[broughtonblue]

48 minutes ago, Livid said:

Anyone booked for the Q&A session at the KP next week ?

 

https://www.lcfc.com/news/1153922/brendan-rodgers-to-host-qa-session-for-supporters

 

I signed up and then instantly realised I'm already committed to a birthday meal.

 

Just hope someone mentions to him how important an FA Cup win would be to us, or at least having a go.

Yes mate, looking forward to it  just got to get out of a night shift tho ?

[RonnieTodger]

Always liked Rodgers and thought he'd be one hell of a coup if we got him. 

 

Delighted he's here.

[VLC86]

3 hours ago, Livid said:

Anyone booked for the Q&A session at the KP next week ?

 

https://www.lcfc.com/news/1153922/brendan-rodgers-to-host-qa-session-for-supporters

 

I signed up and then instantly realised I'm already committed to a birthday meal.

 

Just hope someone mentions to him how important an FA Cup win would be to us, or at least having a go.

Yeah, this will be carnage the poor bloke.

 

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[HybridFox]

I have a feeling this is gonna be a special era for our club. In Brendan we trust! 

[Guest Danny Clender]

I see it like this, so far Brendan Rodgers has simply bought into the Clubs philosophy.

Whilst "Philosophy" generally applies to what happens on the pitch, our philosophy is stronger on the stands, in the dressing room and within the overall running of the club.

Obviously that stems from Vichai and Top, and that rolls all the way down to everybody connected into the 'Team Spirit' 

 

O'Neil did it, Pearson did it, Claudio....well that was Claudio, and only until the tragedy, Puel did it, however not for too long. 

 

Puel was more concerned about what happened on the pitch and what's wrong with that? Well, he got the sack. 

In an example of buying into the club and not, Morgan has been given a 1 year extension, by where had Puel still been here, he'd have been more concerned with bringing Soyuncu through and not really seeing the benefit of keeping Morgan around. Whilst in many ways, that approach makes sense, it's clearly not the Leggeh way.

 

Rodgers on the other hand, because he's more adept at understanding how to buy into the club's philosophy, has chosen to, whether it was his decision or not, give Morgan a longer term role. 

 

I never really watched enough of Rodgers at Liverpool to feel his flaws and I don't watch Scottish Football, so Celtic passed me by. I've always considered Rodgers good in terms of the signings he made at Liverpool and how close he came to winning the Premier League.

He did understand the Liverpool philosophy though and he seems to have grasped ours better than anybody since Pearson. 

 

 

[oxford blue]

I know it's impossible to judge a manager on the first few games, but performances as a team have definitely improved. Tactics are set up to make the most of individuals. Looking at some recent posts there is the comment on Ndidi:

and this comment on Schmeicel 

 

(It seems impossible to use quote function from one thread to another...)

 

Vardy has started scoring goals again. 

Morgan looks more reliable than in some earlier games this season, and well worth contract extension. And that's forgettng his recent goal scoring prowess!

Maddison has picked up from where he was at earlier in the season. It was unsurprising he was dropped from recent England squad 

 

Others have continued to do well - Pereira, Chilwell and Barnes. (And to fair to Puel, his judgement of Tielemans was spot on - I would like his peformances to dip over the remainder of the season if that meant we could sign him)

 

For next season, a top 6 finish seems quite achievable, it we can keep current players and strengthen - particularly a striker - possibly a right back as cover - unless Amartey can improve there. Or could Choudury cover there?

 

 

 

 

[MrSpaM]

I don't think it's really that Kaspers distribution has improved, we've just been playing it out from the back more, which is what we should be doing, not hoofing it up to a 5"10 Vardy who cant win headers

[Babylon]

16 hours ago, oxford blue said:

I know it's impossible to judge a manager on the first few games, but performances as a team have definitely improved. Tactics are set up to make the most of individuals. Looking at some recent posts there is the comment on Ndidi:

and this comment on Schmeicel 

 

(It seems impossible to use quote function from one thread to another...)

 

Vardy has started scoring goals again. 

Morgan looks more reliable than in some earlier games this season, and well worth contract extension. And that's forgettng his recent goal scoring prowess!

Maddison has picked up from where he was at earlier in the season. It was unsurprising he was dropped from recent England squad 

 

Others have continued to do well - Pereira, Chilwell and Barnes. (And to fair to Puel, his judgement of Tielemans was spot on - I would like his peformances to dip over the remainder of the season if that meant we could sign him)

 

For next season, a top 6 finish seems quite achievable, it we can keep current players and strengthen - particularly a striker - possibly a right back as cover - unless Amartey can improve there. Or could Choudury cover there?

I think we're in danger of overplaying things a bit here. Morgan was absolutely fine in the main before he arrived, it was the complete over reaction to him on here that was a joke. Yeah he had some stinkers, and he will continue to do so because he'll get exposed from time to time. His goals have come from a stroke of luck on a deflected cross and another bit of luck where just just got something on it, he was hardly in control of that shot. 

 

Vardy's finishing has been much better, but under Puel he missed some absolute sitters (a bit like the one against Bournemouth) and wasn't putting away the sort of chances he had against Fulham. 

 

We've definitely had our fair share of luck under Rodgers so far and not been punished where we had been previously. But the tempo is so much better, that little bit of extra aggression further up the pitch helps everyone. We've got much harder tests to come and I'm sure we'll know a bit more about where we are as a team come the end of the season. 

Edited 4 April 2019 by Babylon

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

I think we're in danger of overplaying things a bit here. Morgan was absolutely fine in the main before he arrived, it was the complete over reaction to him on here that was a joke. Yeah he had some stinkers, and he will continue to do so because he'll get exposed from time to time. His goals have come from a stroke of luck on a deflected cross and another bit of luck where just just got something on it, he was hardly in control of that shot. 

 

Vardy's finishing has been much better, but under Puel he missed some absolute sitters (a bit like the one against Bournemouth) and wasn't putting away the sort of chances he had against Fulham. 

 

We've definitely had our fair share of luck under Rodgers so far and not been punished where we had been previously. But the tempo is so much better, that little bit of extra aggression further up the pitch helps everyone. We've got much harder tests to come and I'm sure we'll know a bit more about where we are as a team come the end of the season. 

I would counter that somehow Puel managed to make us less committed going forward where individuals would get isolated up front on their own and also exposed at the back. We saw a lot of the ball and laboured forward, with very little movement and then often the attacks would break down and we would then be vulnerable at the back. It seemed Ndidi and Mendy would go missing and the likes of Morgan and Maguire were exposed. Morgan has had a decent season, bar as you say a couple of mistakes and a couple of moments of ill discipline, Puel pretty much cast him aside after the Wolves game where he was the victim of appalling team play all around him, as mentioned above and I would challenge any defender to have done much better than he did that game. We were an absolute shambles.

 

Vardy has simply had more supports, been instructed to press and low and behold he sees more of the ball. I think it's been hard for him to remain alert, composed and in the zone when he saw so little of the ball or the play under Puel. He will always miss his fair share of chances, see the one vs Bournemouth but because he will get more and more chances and at least be involved in more intricate play he is more settled and relaxed in games. His finishing has improved no end and it shows he isn't deteriorating as much as had been claimed. He's still a huge asset for this club at this level.

 

Puel's football style just isn't suited to this country with clubs like Leicester and Southampton. You need a hell of a lot of technical ability and talent to play pragmatic football that relies on moments of brilliance in the final third.

[Babylon]

18 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I would counter that somehow Puel managed to make us less committed going forward where individuals would get isolated up front on their own and also exposed at the back. We saw a lot of the ball and laboured forward, with very little movement and then often the attacks would break down and we would then be vulnerable at the back. It seemed Ndidi and Mendy would go missing and the likes of Morgan and Maguire were exposed. Morgan has had a decent season, bar as you say a couple of mistakes and a couple of moments of ill discipline, Puel pretty much cast him aside after the Wolves game where he was the victim of appalling team play all around him, as mentioned above and I would challenge any defender to have done much better than he did that game. We were an absolute shambles.

 

Vardy has simply had more supports, been instructed to press and low and behold he sees more of the ball. I think it's been hard for him to remain alert, composed and in the zone when he saw so little of the ball or the play under Puel. He will always miss his fair share of chances, see the one vs Bournemouth but because he will get more and more chances and at least be involved in more intricate play he is more settled and relaxed in games. His finishing has improved no end and it shows he isn't deteriorating as much as had been claimed. He's still a huge asset for this club at this level.

 

Puel's football style just isn't suited to this country with clubs like Leicester and Southampton. You need a hell of a lot of technical ability and talent to play pragmatic football that relies on moments of brilliance in the final third.

Nothing to counter, I'm much happier with Rodgers and his tweaks are already working. I just don't want people to go over the top, I've seen people saying the likes of Morgan and Kasper are playing better under him. The same Morgan and Kasper culpable against Watford. Wes dropped against Fulham and Burnley, only coming on due to a red, Kasper got slated against Burnley for their goal I seem to remember on here. Yeah he did alright, but he's done alright plenty of times. 

[HighPeakFox]

They say that you make your own luck. I suspect being much more positive and forward looking rewards the team more. As said elsewhere, I couldn't believe how many 2nd balls we won on Saturday. 

[Guest SO1]

37 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I would counter that somehow Puel managed to make us less committed going forward where individuals would get isolated up front on their own and also exposed at the back. We saw a lot of the ball and laboured forward, with very little movement and then often the attacks would break down and we would then be vulnerable at the back. It seemed Ndidi and Mendy would go missing and the likes of Morgan and Maguire were exposed. Morgan has had a decent season, bar as you say a couple of mistakes and a couple of moments of ill discipline, Puel pretty much cast him aside after the Wolves game where he was the victim of appalling team play all around him, as mentioned above and I would challenge any defender to have done much better than he did that game. We were an absolute shambles.

 

Vardy has simply had more supports, been instructed to press and low and behold he sees more of the ball. I think it's been hard for him to remain alert, composed and in the zone when he saw so little of the ball or the play under Puel. He will always miss his fair share of chances, see the one vs Bournemouth but because he will get more and more chances and at least be involved in more intricate play he is more settled and relaxed in games. His finishing has improved no end and it shows he isn't deteriorating as much as had been claimed. He's still a huge asset for this club at this level.

 

Puel's football style just isn't suited to this country with clubs like Leicester and Southampton. You need a hell of a lot of technical ability and talent to play pragmatic football that relies on moments of brilliance in the final third.

Pragmatism in football is an interesting topic and is used all the time when it comes to criticizing Rodgers . Especially when he was at Celtic and playing in the Champions and Europa league against the huge money teams.

 

The most popular phrase on the chat board was "why can't we(Celtic) be more pragmatic" after taking a beating to PSG or Barcelona. The one thing I "remember" Rodgers saying in a press conference was something to the effect of "I never set my teams up not to lose. I always set them up to win" or setting up the team to "learn" how to beat the big teams, being fearless. To me it seemed evident that he had a long range plan for Celtic that he didn't finish for many reasons.

He obviously backs himself and his ability to build a team to win no matter where he is.

 

I know its crazy but it would be nice to try to define the word Pragmatism and its relevance to football. Most of the time I look at the word as meaning we should of sat back or played more defensively. I don't know if its possible to set a team to play like Simione one day followed by Pulis or Guardiola next. It seems to me your either attacking or counter attacking with variations in between. I'm sure its more complicated than that.

Here's an interesting writing I found that might help us find some common ground on the topic.

 

https://www.tifofootball.com/features/pragmatism-in-football-modern-misconceptions/

[StriderHiryu]

2 hours ago, HighPeakFox said:

They say that you make your own luck. I suspect being much more positive and forward looking rewards the team more. As said elsewhere, I couldn't believe how many 2nd balls we won on Saturday. 

That's Rodgers' style of football alright - winning the ball high up the field and forcing the turnover. It's no surprise to me that we are starting games faster again too, which was one of the most enjoyable things about the 15/16 season. Under Puel, you could see he wanted us to set up a strong shape and grow into the game before we started attacking, especially as we kept starting badly. But this often meant we were too sluggish and gave the impetus and momentum to our opponents.

 

Rodgers is the other way - start aggressively even if does leave space at the back because if you get on top of the game early you can have complete control of the game. Man City have scored 17 goals in the first 15 minutes of games and it's because they also press high from the start of the game and force opponents into mistakes. Look how good Ndidi becomes in this style of play to see the benefits.

There are going to be games where this strategy backfires, Burnley being the obvious example. But for every game it backfires in, I bet there are many more where it leads to a convincing victory. We are also a good team at coming from behind so I think the style suits us ever more because we don't lose hope even if we concede first.

 

All in all it's why most of us look forward to games again, which is great!

[Gordon the Great]

On 30/03/2019 at 17:43, Tom12345 said:

Harsh to talk about Albrighton in that way. He is a different type of player and before his injury and Puel departing he was our only player creating real chances on a regular basis. He has great vision, passes the ball first time without wasting time, and keeps things simple. He is reliable and has been consistent since the title winning season (and before).

Bang on comment.Albrighton is all those things and more..we will miss him badly when he`s gone.

[Babylon]

20 hours ago, HighPeakFox said:

They say that you make your own luck. I suspect being much more positive and forward looking rewards the team more. As said elsewhere, I couldn't believe how many 2nd balls we won on Saturday. 

That doesn't help with the opposition missing absolute sitters though. In pretty much every game the opposition has missed at least one sitter, not so long ago it felt like every bloody shot / first chance they'd have ended up going in. 

[HighPeakFox]

7 minutes ago, Babylon said:

That doesn't help with the opposition missing absolute sitters though. In pretty much every game the opposition has missed at least one sitter, not so long ago it felt like every bloody shot / first chance they'd have ended up going in. 

It might have felt like that, but it wasn't the case.

[Babylon]

4 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

It might have felt like that, but it wasn't the case.

Were you at the Palace game? 

[mancunianfox]

6 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Were you at the Palace game? 

Not forgetting Cardiff (H) and Southampton (H) too.

[Babylon]

Just now, mancunianfox said:

Not forgetting Cardiff (H) and Southampton (H) too.

Yeah I was just thinking of them. Seems a regular theme every week getting sucker punched and conceding soft goals.

 

Whatever the hell has stopped it, be it luck or judgement I'm just glad I'm not sat there thinking "We're all over them, I bet we concede in a minute" still. 

[coolhandfox]

3 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Yeah I was just thinking of them. Seems a regular theme every week getting sucker punched and conceding soft goals.

 

Whatever the hell has stopped it, be it luck or judgement I'm just glad I'm not sat there thinking "We're all over them, I bet we concede in a minute" still. 

Have to agree every mistake we made was punished. Puel did'nt seem to have a lot of luck.