2019/20 Under 23's, U19's, Development ... thread

[gurru991]

29 minutes ago, steveherbe said:

3 1 down going into injury time, absolute rubbish. Not one player that looks anywhere near the first team. Benkovic didn't stand out at all, if we have to use him this year we can forget top 4. Very disappointed.

Benko was fine, solid in the air & fairly tidy on the ball. Not the best of games maybe but his quality is obvious. I would put him in ahead of Morgan.

Edited 13 December 2019 by gurru991

[Guest An Sionnach]

On 12/12/2019 at 20:28, TJB-fox said:

Bit pessimistic. You could also look at it from the view that we have THREE academy graduates firmly in the first team squad, two of which have started most games this season and Hamza is hardly out in the cold. Josh Knight getting rave reviews before his injury at the Posh and I’m sure Regba/Thomas/Hirst to name a few will be sold for decent fees should we decide to sell them. 

And today, predictably, they are calling for Barnes to be replaced . Chilwell was under the cosh a month or so ago. Short memories on here. We don't need wingers , what good are they with our small forwards. We need more goal threat, another striker. Chances of buying one who can give you a goal every 200 mins of playing time are limited. I will say it again give Eppiah, Hirst or Muskwe a chance. If they can't do it then we have to be prepared to smash our spending record.

[TJB-fox]

28 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

And today, predictably, they are calling for Barnes to be replaced . Chilwell was under the cosh a month or so ago. Short memories on here. We don't need wingers , what good are they with our small forwards. We need more goal threat, another striker. Chances of buying one who can give you a goal every 200 mins of playing time are limited. I will say it again give Eppiah, Hirst or Muskwe a chance. If they can't do it then we have to be prepared to smash our spending record.

Sorry but since when are wingers not a goal threat? I agree we may need to dip into the January transfer market to bring in a top attacker. But I want a winger, not another ‘world class’ 9.

[Guest An Sionnach]

20 minutes ago, TJB-fox said:

Sorry but since when are wingers not a goal threat? I agree we may need to dip into the January transfer market to bring in a top attacker. But I want a winger, not another ‘world class’ 9.

The modern "winger" cannot be just a wide player. Sterling , Neymar , Mbappe etc. are strikers who move wide when necessary . Fixed positions for strikers are outmoded. To pull apart or unsettle organised defences they have to be mobile. We need another player who can take some of the responsibility off of Jamie's shoulders, preferably from within the club.

[TJB-fox]

25 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

The modern "winger" cannot be just a wide player. Sterling , Neymar , Mbappe etc. are strikers who move wide when necessary . Fixed positions for strikers are outmoded. To pull apart or unsettle organised defences they have to be mobile. We need another player who can take some of the responsibility off of Jamie's shoulders, preferably from within the club.

 

Our shape was all wrong to start with today, didn’t suit playing at home to norwich, rightly made the switch. After that, we had the shape to break them down but our wingers had a bad day at the office. There was always going to be a game like this so let’s not get so hasty. 

 

Also, Sterling Neymar and Mbappe (less so) all play on the wing but often come inside like inverted forwards, perhaps similarly to the way Brendan likes us to play so not really sure what you actually want. 

 

Do you want want to play with wingers or not? 

Edited 14 December 2019 by TJB-fox

[Guest An Sionnach]

18 minutes ago, TJB-fox said:

 

Our shape was all wrong to start with today, didn’t suit playing at home to norwich, rightly made the switch. After that, we had the shape to break them down but our wingers had a bad day at the office. There was always going to be a game like this so let’s not get so hasty. 

 

Also, Sterling Neymar and Mbappe (less so) all play on the wing but often come inside like inverted forwards, perhaps similarly to the way Brendan likes us to play so not really sure what you actually want. 

 

Do you want want to play with wingers or not? 

I am a believer in wing backs to provide the fixed wide positions with the strikers providing the support when necessary.

[TJB-fox]

16 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

I am a believer in wing backs to provide the fixed wide positions with the strikers providing the support when necessary.

So am I. Isn’t that what we tried to do today and last week with the diamond? Extra striker and central midfielder in place of the two wingers? Clearly didn’t work!

[Guest An Sionnach]

5 minutes ago, TJB-fox said:

So am I. Isn’t that what we tried to do today and last week with the diamond? Extra striker and central midfielder in place of the two wingers? Clearly didn’t work!

Well, needs some working on for sure.If you double up wingers with full backs though you leave your centre men too isolated. I think the system needs persisting with but strikers must do their job and make goalkeepers work for their money. If Perez, Barnes and Gray start doing that this conversation is redundant. However if not, we will have to look elsewhere.

[urban.spaceman]

 

[davieG]

Leicester City youngster Josh Knight has been dealt an injury blow that will see him sidelined until February his loan chairman has confirmed.

The 22-year-old Foxes talent is currently on loan with League One promotion hopefuls Peterborough United but was sent back to Belvoir Drive for specialist treatment after picking up a muscle injury.

The Posh currently sit third in the standings but Knight has not featured since early November after making 18 appearances during the early stages of the season.

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leicester-city-defender-injured-peterborough-3650075

[StanSP]

Playing Villarreal B in the U23 International Cup.

 

25 gone and it's 2-0 to us  . Two goals in two minutes.

[urban.spaceman]

 

[StanSP]

2-1 win  

[MarriedaLeicesterGirl]

Mendy's first action in ages. Amartey, Benko and Jaku all started.

 

 

[Ric Flair]

Who scored our goals?

[MarriedaLeicesterGirl]

1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

Who scored our goals?

Hirst and Eppiah

[brucey]

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/4902571/marseille-boss-andre-villas-boas-ready-to-steal-leicesters-18-year-old-wonderkid-sidnei-tavares/
 

Tavares chose to sign with Leicester ahead of the likes of Everton, Lazio and FC Porto mainly because of Brendan Rodgers’ history in giving youth a chance.

He attended the club’s pre-season tour in Evian, but is yet to make a first-team appearance.

It has now emerged that the player is homesick, and also uncomfortable with the potential outcome of Brexit as he only possesses a Portuguese passport.

[Collymore]

8 hours ago, brucey said:

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/4902571/marseille-boss-andre-villas-boas-ready-to-steal-leicesters-18-year-old-wonderkid-sidnei-tavares/
 

Tavares chose to sign with Leicester ahead of the likes of Everton, Lazio and FC Porto mainly because of Brendan Rodgers’ history in giving youth a chance.

He attended the club’s pre-season tour in Evian, but is yet to make a first-team appearance.

It has now emerged that the player is homesick, and also uncomfortable with the potential outcome of Brexit as he only possesses a Portuguese passport.

I think the author needs to play more Football Manager to know what a "Wonder Kid" actually is. 

[lcfcdotell]

Hirst scored again? Impressive season so far. 

[Deeg67]

Nice to see Benko getting regular action.  Could Wigan finally be his time?

[Guest An Sionnach]

Giving youth a chance , hmmm, he did that at Reading and got the sack. That probably influences his thinking. A young player at Leicester probably does have problems . I have witnessed the attacks on here concerning Chilwell and Barnes who in truth are not teenagers . A young player is 18 or 19 not 22. If you are 22 and not in the main squad you are at the wrong club. They get attacked and rightly for buying expensive duds but Man Utd have an excellent record for blooding teenagers and we do not. Gotta change.

[The_Rorab]

1 hour ago, An Sionnach said:

Giving youth a chance , hmmm, he did that at Reading and got the sack. That probably influences his thinking. A young player at Leicester probably does have problems . I have witnessed the attacks on here concerning Chilwell and Barnes who in truth are not teenagers . A young player is 18 or 19 not 22. If you are 22 and not in the main squad you are at the wrong club. They get attacked and rightly for buying expensive duds but Man Utd have an excellent record for blooding teenagers and we do not. Gotta change.

Man U aren't exactly a club I want us to emulate at the moment - the only reason their team is full of youth players is because they just don't have quality players in certain positions - when your best CM partnership is Fred and McTominay, or you're playing Ashley Young at LB still, or you've got no actual centre forwards bar Martial, then you kind of have to play youth players more to compensate for your deficiencies in the squad. In comparison, we have pretty decent squad depth, with competent first team cover in every position.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see some of our youngsters make the matchday squad a few times - but sitting in 2nd in the league, in the semis of the League cup, with a better record than most Prem clubs at bringing through youth players (Chilly, Barnes, Hamza all regularly making the squad now, and Kingy, Schlupp, Moore, Gradel having done so in the past like 10-15 years,) I'm not sure something has gotta change right now to be honest.

[Guest An Sionnach]

3 minutes ago, The_Rorab said:

Man U aren't exactly a club I want us to emulate at the moment - the only reason their team is full of youth players is because they just don't have quality players in certain positions - when your best CM partnership is Fred and McTominay, or you're playing Ashley Young at LB still, or you've got no actual centre forwards bar Martial, then you kind of have to play youth players more to compensate for your deficiencies in the squad. In comparison, we have pretty decent squad depth, with competent first team cover in every position.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see some of our youngsters make the matchday squad a few times - but sitting in 2nd in the league, in the semis of the League cup, with a better record than most Prem clubs at bringing through youth players (Chilly, Barnes, Hamza all regularly making the squad now, and Kingy, Schlupp, Moore, Gradel having done so in the past like 10-15 years,) I'm not sure something has gotta change right now to be honest.

Chilwell, Barnes and Choudrey are not youth players anymore, I wish people would stop referring to their youth. Even Eppiah ,Hirst , Muskwe and Benkovic are not that young.

[The_Rorab]

11 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

Chilwell, Barnes and Choudrey are not youth players anymore, I wish people would stop referring to their youth. Even Eppiah ,Hirst , Muskwe and Benkovic are not that young.

What?

 

You said we're bad at bringing youth players through - all 3 were youth players we brought through from the academy this decade, showing that we do give youth a chance. Just because they're not youth players anymore doesn't mean that they don't count as having been youth products we brought into the squad.

[Guest An Sionnach]

1 minute ago, The_Rorab said:

What?

 

You said we're bad at bringing youth players through - all 3 were youth players we brought through from the academy this decade, showing that we do give youth a chance. Just because they're not youth players anymore doesn't mean that they don't count as having been youth products we brought into the squad.

Of course they do but they are not that young anymore. The only two players who have gone on to be important members of our squad over several seasons are Andy King and now Ben Chilwell