Fan’s Groups Angered By Lack Of Consultation Prior To ‘Stealth’ Increase In Ticket Purchase Fees.

[Foxes_Trust]

The Foxes Trust and Union FS have come out strongly in condemnation at the fact that Leicester City did not consult Fans’ Groups prior to the substantial increase in fees introduced by the Club for 2019/20 for Match Tickets (Home & Away), Stadium Car Parking, Foxes Travel and other services.

 

Full details below

 

http://foxestrust.co.uk/7353/fans-groups-angered-by-lack-of-consultation-prior-to-stealth-increase-in-ticket-purchase-fees

 

We encourage fans comments on this thread

[Ginger_Filbert]

Without wanting to sound ignorant, why should the club consult with fan groups over anything?

Neither FT or UFS have any official standing within the club. 

You’ll probably find that this is why the club are hard to talk to from FT and UFS, these new ultra groups think they should have a say about everything that goes on at their clubs. 

To me moaning about £1 when we’ve had years of mostly price freezes and are one of if not the best ran clubs in the country, is quite simply groups just trying to be relevant. 

UFS need to stick to atmosphere in my eyes and maybe the club wouldn’t ignore them every time they try and contact them.

[norwichfox]

Do you think they would drop the increases with dialogue? Thought not.

[Adster]

 get over it.

[jonthefox]

Did you want consulting when we broke the transfer record twice in a week?. Or how about when you pick up your free beer ?. £100 million training facility?. No didn’t think so. Give the club a break will you. 

[cropstonfox]

No problem with covering admin costs?

If each area of the business continues to be managed and priced correctly, then the overall business remains sound.

If the business continues to be managed professionally in all aspects then we continue to move forward has a club.

[davieG]

3 hours ago, Ginger_Filbert said:

Without wanting to sound ignorant, why should the club consult with fan groups over anything?

Neither FT or UFS have any official standing within the club. 

You’ll probably find that this is why the club are hard to talk to from FT and UFS, these new ultra groups think they should have a say about everything that goes on at their clubs. 

To me moaning about £1 when we’ve had years of mostly price freezes and are one of if not the best ran clubs in the country, is quite simply groups just trying to be relevant. 

UFS need to stick to atmosphere in my eyes and maybe the club wouldn’t ignore them every time they try and contact them.

The club set up a Fans Consultative Committee (FCC) to discuss all things that affect fans that is the consultation they are referring to.

 

What's the point of having an FCC if you're not going to consult with them?

[Ashley]

15 minutes ago, Adster said:

 get over it.

Get over having to pay an extra £1 for someone actually doing their job or £1.50 as a non member? Even to print at home? Allow you, its obviously gone over your head.

[Ginger_Filbert]

2 hours ago, davieG said:

The club set up a Fans Consultative Committee (FCC) to discuss all things that affect fans that is the consultation they are referring to.

 

What's the point of having an FCC if you're not going to consult with them?

Agree about the FCC however if bringing up a £1 admin fee in these meetings is a concern then it just shows we have next to nothing to moan about as a fan base. 

My point was more at if supporters groups stopped being so abrasive about menial things, then maybe the club would be more supportive in what groups like UFS are trying to achieve. 

If they’re just going to moan every time the club do something they do not like, then they cannot moan when they fall on death ears. Acting like spoilt brats is never going to achieve a good working relationship with the club hierarchy. 

Maybe the club would allow UFS to grow more if they didn’t make public digs at the club so often. I’d love nothing more than UFS to grow but they need to reign it in and focus on atmosphere which is what the group was originally all about. 

[Ashley]

9 minutes ago, cropstonfox said:

No problem with covering admin costs?

If each area of the business continues to be managed and priced correctly, then the overall business remains sound.

If the business continues to be managed professionally in all aspects then we continue to move forward has a club.

Sorry what's an admin cost? It's their job! 

[woddyuk]

41 minutes ago, Ginger_Filbert said:

Without wanting to sound ignorant, why should the club consult with fan groups over anything?

Neither FT or UFS have any official standing within the club. 

You’ll probably find that this is why the club are hard to talk to from FT and UFS, these new ultra groups think they should have a say about everything that goes on at their clubs. 

To me moaning about £1 when we’ve had years of mostly price freezes and are one of if not the best ran clubs in the country, is quite simply groups just trying to be relevant. 

UFS need to stick to atmosphere in my eyes and maybe the club wouldn’t ignore them every time they try and contact them.

You shouldn't forget the club is a business and on the whole it's ran very well, especially compared to the basket case it used to be years ago. We have some of the cheapest tickets in the prem. Yes there is sky TV money but that isn't a bottomless pit, the club still needs to be viable. 

There has /is/will be plenty of investment in the fans, ground, training facilities, players, subsidised away travel, St ticket price freeze, (in fact I'll pay less this year for my lad as he's now classed in the new u16band) free breakfasts, beer etc. None of which is free. Perez and Youri both new transfer records.  I don't think the club have consciously sat and thought let's see  "what we can get away with" with an increase in fees by taking advantage of us. .  It is a purely commercial decision. 

They would, you would have hoped, modelled it out first before making a decision. Looked at what other clubs & leisure industries do/don't do?

 

We may not like it. You could also argue its a stealth "tax" .

But they certainly don't need to consult anyone. Anymore than Amazon would if they wanted to put a quid on their deliveries, or London Mayor congestion charging for driving a car into the centre, The Government putting up road tax, or Highcross putting 20p per hour on parking.

On the whole I think we get a good overall deal from the club and certainly wouldn't want to swap owners, & commercial managers, with the likes of Bolton, Newcastle, Coventry etc. 

Lest we forget where we were when we were hours from going to the wall and in administration. 

I may not be happy about the "backdoor" charge, but let's keep perspective and see what we actually get for that quid. 

[Ginger_Filbert]

7 minutes ago, woddyuk said:

You shouldn't forget the club is a business and on the whole it's ran very well, especially compared to the basket case it used to be years ago. We have some of the cheapest tickets in the prem. Yes there is sky TV money but that isn't a bottomless pit, the club still needs to be viable. 

There has /is/will be plenty of investment in the fans, ground, training facilities, players, subsidised away travel, St ticket price freeze, (in fact I'll pay less this year for my lad as he's now classed in the new u16band) free breakfasts, beer etc. None of which is free. Perez and Youri both new transfer records.  I don't think the club have consciously sat and thought let's see  "what we can get away with" with an increase in fees by taking advantage of us. .  It is a purely commercial decision. 

They would, you would have hoped, modelled it out first before making a decision. Looked at what other clubs & leisure industries do/don't do?

 

We may not like it. You could also argue its a stealth "tax" .

But they certainly don't need to consult anyone. Anymore than Amazon would if they wanted to put a quid on their deliveries, or London Mayor congestion charging for driving a car into the centre, The Government putting up road tax, or Highcross putting 20p per hour on parking.

On the whole I think we get a good overall deal from the club and certainly wouldn't want to swap owners, & commercial managers, with the likes of Bolton, Newcastle, Coventry etc. 

Lest we forget where we were when we were hours from going to the wall and in administration. 

I may not be happy about the "backdoor" charge, but let's keep perspective and see what we actually get for that quid. 

Excellently put. 

[StanSP]

9 minutes ago, woddyuk said:

I may not be happy about the "backdoor" charge, but let's keep perspective and see what we actually get for that quid.

Eh? 

What we get? We get the privilege to print our own tickets at home and they still have the audacity to charge us for it! 

 

And how are you going to end up knowing 'what we actually get'? It's not like the club desperately needs the money is it? 

 

It's a snide way of doing things. Charging us to do an admin job. I don't mind if they charged it if we chose for postage of the tickets but they're literally charging us to do a job their end. 

 

I didn't mind the booking fee per transaction as it has been in previous seasons but now it's every ticket they're charging for. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Moan when the Foxestrust do nothing, moan when they try and do something. 

 

PeRspEcTiVe. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

1 hour ago, Ginger_Filbert said:

Without wanting to sound ignorant, why should the club consult with fan groups over anything?

Neither FT or UFS have any official standing within the club. 

You’ll probably find that this is why the club are hard to talk to from FT and UFS, these new ultra groups think they should have a say about everything that goes on at their clubs. 

To me moaning about £1 when we’ve had years of mostly price freezes and are one of if not the best ran clubs in the country, is quite simply groups just trying to be relevant. 

UFS need to stick to atmosphere in my eyes and maybe the club wouldn’t ignore them every time they try and contact them.

****ing hell where to start here

[CosbehFox]

It’s a £1 per ticket. 

 

You take the family out, that’s a fiver. It’s an obscene nonsense charge .

[Jackubu]

21 minutes ago, woddyuk said:

 I'll pay less this year for my lad as he's now classed in the new u16band) 

Wonder which supporters group campaigned with the club for this ?

[CosbehFox]

1 hour ago, Ginger_Filbert said:

Without wanting to sound ignorant, why should the club consult with fan groups over anything?

Neither FT or UFS have any official standing within the club. 

You’ll probably find that this is why the club are hard to talk to from FT and UFS, these new ultra groups think they should have a say about everything that goes on at their clubs. 

To me moaning about £1 when we’ve had years of mostly price freezes and are one of if not the best ran clubs in the country, is quite simply groups just trying to be relevant. 

UFS need to stick to atmosphere in my eyes and maybe the club wouldn’t ignore them every time they try and contact them.

I disagree but I can understand your point about UFS. 

 

However, Foxes Trust deserve respect for the work they did at the clubs time of need. I was correctly put back in my place when I questioned them recently. 

 

A football club is its fans. The current owners won’t be here forever 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

24 minutes ago, woddyuk said:

(in fact I'll pay less this year for my lad as he's now classed in the new u16band)

The introduction of the u16 band was heavily influenced by behind the scenes lobbying done by the fans groups for a number of years, so it's quite ironic you seem to have a problem with them continuing in the same vein.

[leicesterseddon]

41 minutes ago, jonthefox said:

Did you want consulting when we broke the transfer record twice in a week?. Or how about when you pick up your free beer ?. £100 million training facility?. No didn’t think so. Give the club a break will you. 

 

I think the club is being well managed, but this is clearly an attempt to raise ticketing revenue after bagging good publicity from claiming a ‘price freeze’.

 

I think that’s what has annoyed people. I think overall most fans would agree with you on the general picture. 

 

One other thing I would point out is that the increased spending you refer to has been made possible mainly because of 

increased TV revenue (as opposed to ticketing revenue). 

[Xen]

19 home league games a season means roughly 8000*19 tickets subject to the charge, which is going to raise a grand total of £152k for the club (At a guess, about £100k more than it would under the old format). Maybe bump that up 25% to account for extra sales for cup games and friendlies.

 

To a club operating on the scale of LCFC that's peanuts - we spend more than that on Adrien Silva's wages every fortnight, the clappers, or one of those free-beer-days. But to the fans who's 'Frozen' ticket prices have essentially gone up 5% it's unfair, particularly as the process is so automated that the extra 'administration' required amounts to someone clicking a checkbox and putting an extra ticket in the envelope.

 

It's a ridiculous charge and totally unwarranted. 

[Guest Markyblue]

1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Moan when the Foxestrust do nothing, moan when they try and do something. 

 

PeRspEcTiVe. 

Personally ill start moaning when we are owned by mike Ashley. 

[ozleicester]

Capitalism

[Guest Markyblue]

4 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

Capitalism

Yes and as long as you live here and partake in its benefits you are part of the capitalist system. 

[walkerleeds]

1 hour ago, jonthefox said:

Did you want consulting when we broke the transfer record twice in a week?. Or how about when you pick up your free beer ?. £100 million training facility?. No didn’t think so. Give the club a break will you. 

 

You're the kind of bloke who would  pay £70 for a ticket for a game at home to West Brom aren't you?