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19 minutes ago, Countryfox said:


Doesn’t look like him to me flannel ... 

 

 

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Linking to the debate about men not necessarily knowing how many children they have.......

 

Bloke on the left is clearly an illegitimate son of Jimmy Hill.

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18 hours ago, Facecloth said:

 

He'd previously convicted of plotting to blow up the London Stock Exchange in 2013, so in my opinion should still be inside.

 

That said, as Sadiq Khan just pointed out, the option to imprison people under IPP (Imprisonment for Public Protection) was removed in 2010. Done so because aparently our overcrowed prisons couldn't cope. So the option to keep him inside once his minimum term was served wasn't there and he was released on parole. He should have been on fix term. As with everything these days we either go too far one way or too far the other. I understand if our prisons were overcrowded, but surely this measure should still have been an option in certain cases.

Don't think I've ever ever agreed with you Facecloth, but you are spot on. This man should not have been free to commit this act of terror.

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6 hours ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50587098

 

China's ambitions to go full Eastasia continues.

From the article 

 

“China has for years been trying to enforce rules to ensure that everyone using the internet does so under their "real-name" identities.”

 

That’s me sent off for a stint of re-education then ! 

 

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A woman's regular cough that didn't go away was actually cancer, and only has months left to live..:(

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/mum-who-niggling-cough-finds-3587629

 

Makes you wonder if there's a lot of poor individuals out there with the same and never thought about this being the cause.

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22 hours ago, Alf Bentley said:

 

Linking to the debate about men not necessarily knowing how many children they have.......

 

Bloke on the left is clearly an illegitimate son of Jimmy Hill.

I was thinking more Harry Kane.

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Denmark update their "ghetto" list:

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In order to be included on the list, housing areas must have over 1,000 inhabitants and fulfil three out of five criteria:

  • Over 40 percent of adults aged 18-64 not engaged in employment or education (average over two-year period)
  • Over 50 percent of residents have non-Western nationality or heritage
  • Over 2.70 percent of residents aged 18 or over convicted for criminal, weapons or narcotics crimes (average over two-year period)
  • More than 50 percent of residents with basic school education or lower (includes undeclared education)
  • Average pre-tax income for adults aged 18-64, not including unemployed, less than 55 percent of pre-tax income for administrative region.

https://www.thelocal.dk/20191202/denmark-updates-ghetto-list-of-underprivileged-neighbourhoods

 

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10 minutes ago, MattP said:

Trump completely right though.

 

Europe really does have to step up on this, along with our nuclear deterrent the single biggest thing guaranteeing our peace and it's often treated with distain. 

One might make an argument about European contributions to NATO not being what they should be but I'm not sure there's a point to him bitching about Macron telling the truth that NATO is much more dysfunctional than functional right now - largely due to Trump and Erdogan.

 

I guess we'll have to disagree wrt the function of NATO in general too - IMO there are more elegant solutions to maintaining peace than carrying a big stick in a threatening manner all the time, unless one is totally cynical about human nature.

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3 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

One might make an argument about European contributions to NATO not being what they should be but I'm not sure there's a point to him bitching about Macron telling the truth that NATO is much more dysfunctional than functional right now - largely due to Trump and Erdogan.

 

I guess we'll have to disagree wrt the function of NATO in general too - IMO there are more elegant solutions to maintaining peace than carrying a big stick in a threatening manner all the time, unless one is totally cynical about human nature.

What are your elegant solutions to this that are viable and realistic in the current World? 

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6 minutes ago, MattP said:

What are your elegant solutions to this that are viable and realistic in the current World? 

None - because right now pretty much all of them I can think of (mostly involving a definite lack of nationhood) are very much unrealistic, given how disparate, polarised and nation-obsessed the world mostly is and remains.

 

I'm cynical enough to think that the world probably won't change in the ways needed to put an end to a great deal of needless suffering and misery in my lifetime, but optimistic enough to think that humanity does have the capacity for it.

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20 hours ago, SecretPro said:

The Royals have been in the news lately for all the wrong reasons, but this is absolutely cracking from Princess Anne:

 

 

Fake news. The queen was asking. Who was next, but a trump was the last, so Anne said “there’s only me!”

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On 04/12/2019 at 12:18, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50550742

 

Land of the free. Depending on your demographic and wallet size.

Ahh, the BBC quoting the SPLC, a notoriously biased institution.lol

Besides, storm in a teacup?

 

Most of the 50 states have implemented English as the official language already.

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On 04/12/2019 at 14:14, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50653597

 

Some rather large cracks in solidarity, then.

Well, I guess we need another World War for these people to realize how privileged they are and what true hardships generations up until WWII had to go through.

 

Even Macron, a socialist, calls the union „brain dead“.lol

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6 hours ago, MC Prussian said:

Ahh, the BBC quoting the SPLC, a notoriously biased institution.lol

Besides, storm in a teacup?

 

Most of the 50 states have implemented English as the official language already.

...so these organisations and movements don't exist? I get the viewpoint re the SPLC but there are other sources with which to check the veracity of these movements.

 

That you quote that most of the 50 states do have English as the official language (true) is indicative that this isn't really a storm in a teacup and in a way (outside the federal government mandating that certain information has to be in different languages) these movements have already "won", which is rather sad, really.

 

It's like the xenophobes over here that pop up on the Internet or at protests every so often insisting that everyone must speak Korean.

 

6 hours ago, MC Prussian said:

Well, I guess we need another World War for these people to realize how privileged they are and what true hardships generations up until WWII had to go through.

 

Even Macron, a socialist, calls the union „brain dead“.lol

Well, as I said to Matt above, there probably are better solutions to preventing another world war than a multinational organisation with the silhouette of a mushroom cloud behind it being ready to visit targetted violence where they wish. International solidarity is a really good thing - international solidarity based on threats to other members of the international community (who of course are threatening back) isn't so much.

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