The Last Chance Saloon - 19/20 Edition

[Dahnsouff]

Just a bit of fun - Who in the squad, has to make an impression this year, or get out of Dodge?

 

[Nicolo Barella]

Gray, for the 2nd year running...

[Guest]

Gray, Ghezzal, Silva, Slimani and Diabaté but I'm pretty sure the last 4 will all be loaned out if we can't sell them.

[rn9013]

Other than Barnes and Ward, I'd argue everyone on that list isn't too far from a transfer out if an offer came in. Barnes I imagine the club would want to keep given his age and potential, and Ward was always signed as a back up keeper. 

[StanSP]

Demarai and Iheanacho. 

 

The former more so because he's had about 3 years to do something but is never consistent enough to live up to reasonable potential that fans see. 

 

Iheanacho because since signing he's been severely underwhelming. Maybe Rodgers can get something out of him still but may not hold out much hope. If he kicks off this season like he has played in pre-season then maybe there's still time... 

 

Harsh to put Barnes and Ward there! Barnes is still very much a raw talent and will be a good player. He has more time to prove himself beyond this season. 

 

Ward doesn't have to prove anything to me. He's a back up keeper simple as. 

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, StanSP said:

Demarai and Iheanacho. 

 

The former more so because he's had about 3 years to do something but is never consistent enough to live up to reasonable potential that fans see. 

 

Iheanacho because since signing he's been severely underwhelming. Maybe Rodgers can get something out of him still but may not hold out much hope. If he kicks off this season like he has played in pre-season then maybe there's still time... 

 

Harsh to put Barnes and Ward there! Barnes is still very much a raw talent and will be a good player. He has more time to prove himself beyond this season. 

 

Ward doesn't have to prove anything to me. He's a back up keeper simple as. 

Yes, I am very naughty putting Barnes and Ward in there i know - only to see peoples expectations, and hope they aren't unrealistic.

Both are not in the last chance saloon at all, would agree with that (I did not select either  )

Ward is the backup, nowt really to prove, Barnes is growing into his potential.

[UniFox21]

Gray definitely needs to show his ability and talent. He is clearly a good player, its whether he can produce that on the pitch. Im hoping Rodger's use of more attacking wingers may be more to his style.

 

With the talent we have behind the strikers, hopefully this will suit Nacho and he gets his confidence back 

[foxinsocks]

4 minutes ago, FIF said:

Gray, Ghezzal, Silva, Slimani and Diabaté but I'm pretty sure the last 4 will all be loaned out if we can't sell them.

We really need to sell or loan these guys asap.   They must be earning too much as their agents havent drummed up any interest

[foxinsocks]

Silva? Why no interest?

[That_Dude]

The first two are the obvious ones and I haven't completely lost hope for Ghezzal. For Slim, Diabaté and Silva I fear the ship's sailed.

 

Can't believe people voted for Mendy. He's proven that he's a good squad player and can do a job in case of one of our midfielders is injured.

[Ric Flair]

Gray and Kelechi. Barnes is fine for now, as is Ward. The rest have no future here.

[AKCJ]

Slimani, Ghezzal and Diabate will be sold before the window shuts i'd imagine.

 

Silva and Iheanacho are probably on their last chance to impress this season.

 

Gray, Mendy, Barnes, Ward and Amartey are more than capable squad players.

[murphy]

I think that a lot of those names will never get close enough even to the bench to make an impression, our squad is so bloated.  We need to sell as many as we can with the exception of Barnes who should be nowhere near this list and the one person that voted for him should get a 24hr ban.

 

 

 

 

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, murphy said:

I think that a lot of those names will never get close enough even to the bench to make an impression, our squad is so bloated.  We need to sell as many as we can with the exception of Barnes who should be nowhere near this list and the one person that voted for him should get a 24hr ban.

Ward and Barnes are clearly included as a thought experiement only 

[StanSP]

3 minutes ago, murphy said:

We need to sell as many as we can

Eh? 

 

It's good to have a 'squad'. It's good to have options. Yes there needs to be some departures but 'sell as many as we can' is just simply not going to happen. If that happens and we get a few injuries, we'll be bemoaning the lack of depth. 

[Finnegan]

Gray isn't in the last chance saloon, he's full on missed the boat. 

[AjcW]

I'm getting GrayJa Vu....

[David Guiza]

I voted for Barnes 

 

Not that I believe it's his last chance saloon, far from it due to his age and potential; I know it goes against the topic title and therefore doesn't make a great deal of sense(!). He had a great first half of the season at WBA and showed real glimpses with us, but my reasoning is that I think it's a big season for him. When he is given the nod he needs to hit the ground running otherwise he's going to be on the fringes of the squad, depending on formation he could be competing with a few players for a starting place as opposed to just one of Gray/Ghezzal/Albrighton. I think he's an exciting player and has the potential to be a real star, but we did also think the same about Jordan Stewart in the top flight a few years ago. It's a massive season for him and I think he will prove himself, but it's not a  

 

I also thought it was a waste of time voting for Ghezzal, Diabate, Slimani or Silva as I'd be surprised if any even made a match day squad for the entirety of the season, and that's if they're still here in a couple of weeks time. Ward will likely see next to no game time also, again. I don't think Amartey or Gray will be here beyond this season also, but we'll see I guess. 

 

 

 

 

[murphy]

12 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Eh? 

 

It's good to have a 'squad'. It's good to have options. Yes there needs to be some departures but 'sell as many as we can' is just simply not going to happen. If that happens and we get a few injuries, we'll be bemoaning the lack of depth. 

You can only have a 25 man squad.   We must have 30 odd.  That means players doing nothing and drawing a big wage which is not very clever.  I would sell everyone on that list except for Barnes.

 

I mean, realistically when will Andy King play again?  He's behind Wilf, Youri, Silva, Mendy, Praet, Maddison... you can't hoard players just in case of an injury crisis.

 

Or Amartey?  He's behind Ricardo and Justin at fb, never been trusted at CB and has the same problem as Andy King that he is behind half a dozen others on midfield.

 

Sell, sell, sell.

 

It will help us lower the wage bill, get some money in, comply with FFP and therefore help us buy players in the future that are going to be actually useful rather than decorative or ornamental. 

[Tielemans63]

39 minutes ago, FIF said:

Gray, Ghezzal, Silva, Slimani and Diabaté but I'm pretty sure the last 4 will all be loaned out if we can't sell them.

With the exception of Gray, I'm not sure any of the others will even make it to the saloon.

[StanSP]

1 minute ago, murphy said:

You can only have a 25 man squad.   We must have 30 odd.  That means players doing nothing and drawing a big wage which is not very clever.  I would sell everyone on that list except for Barnes.

 

I mean, realistically when will Andy King play again?  He's behind Wilf, Youri, Silva, Mendy, Praet, Maddison... you can't hoard players just in case of an injury crisis.

 

Or Amartey?  He's behind Ricardo and Justin at fb, never been trusted at CB and has the same problem as Andy King that he is behind half a dozen others on midfield.

 

Sell, sell, sell.

 

It will help us lower the wage bill, get some money in, comply with FFP and therefore help us buy players in the future that are going to be actually useful rather than decorative or ornamental. 

 

So that's 2 players. 

 

If we sold Iheanacho and Vardy gets injured long-term, then what? We have Perez as a striker to rely on and with all due respect to him that's a lot to ask for! 

 

I get the point about midfielders and we're stacked there. 

 

Diabate I'll agree with. I don't think he's good enough for our squad. 

 

You'd sell Ward? Really? I think he's perfectly good as a back up keeper and he seems happy to be so. It's rare you get keepers like that and he knows when he comes in whenever that may be, he'll have a job to do like he did in the Cups. 

[murphy]

45 minutes ago, StanSP said:

 

So that's 2 players. 

 

If we sold Iheanacho and Vardy gets injured long-term, then what? We have Perez as a striker to rely on and with all due respect to him that's a lot to ask for! 

 

I get the point about midfielders and we're stacked there. 

 

Diabate I'll agree with. I don't think he's good enough for our squad. 

 

You'd sell Ward? Really? I think he's perfectly good as a back up keeper and he seems happy to be so. It's rare you get keepers like that and he knows when he comes in whenever that may be, he'll have a job to do like he did in the Cups. 

 

Not 2 players only, just 2 examples.  I could list plenty more.

 

OK, I agree that Ward should be kept.  That's an oversight. 

 

It's too late to sell Nacho now and anyway we would get nothing for him but if we could have got him transferred during the window with time to replace, that would have been ideal.  I think the manager has been told to persevere with him as he has so much money tied up in him with no chance of getting it back unless something remarkable happens but I'm not hopeful.

 

My point basically is quality over quantity.  When you can only list a 25 man squad it is daft to have senior players like Slim and Silva on big wages doing nothing.  We are still paying for past mistakes.

[OntarioFox]

Gray, Iheanacho, Ghezzal for sheer lack of application, especially Gray. I feel a little for Ghezzal who has been a bit part since he got here, but none of these three has done anything to yet convince us that they're going to make the grade.

 

Mendy's unlucky really - down the pecking order purely because our midfield is now so talented. Not necessarily a bad player, but he's going to see his minutes limited for sure.

 

Amartey, see Mendy, but with the added caveat of his horrific injury. Needs some gametime, disappointed Sheff Utd. didn't get him in tbh and I have my fingers crossed he gets a loan somewhere in Europe so he can get some meaningful game time under his belt.

Also went for other, since I imagine King needs some good performances in the cup to show he's worth a squad place and to prevent being gracefully asked to move on. I think the boat has already sailed for James in that respect, he'll be off in January to a Champ / League 1 club. I'd like to see one or both go out to OHL, personally.

Didn't bother voting for Slimani, Silva or Diabate - i think all three are finished for us.

Ward is a weird one to include.

[Raw Dykes]

Gray is the stand-out for me. He's clearly got talent, but lacks either the intelligence to know that he's still got work to do, or the drive to improve. He's been here a pretty long time now, and is still pretty much the same player we bought. I don't have much hope that he will make it here now. Maybe BR can get him to fulfill his potential. If he can, then we could have a real player on our hands, but I just don't think it's very likely.

 

I'm a lot more optimistic about Kelechi. I think he's mainly been suffering from a severe lack of confidence. I doubt we will need him much with Vardy and Perez ahead of him, but when he does play, I think he'll benefit from a stronger team around him. He should be getting more chances to score, and better ones. If he can put one or two away, I think he'll be a different player. His main strength is his lethal finishing when on form. If we can hand him chances on a plate, we'll see what he's all about. Had a good pre-season.

 

Barnes should be nowhere near this list. Young academy player at the starting line of his career. Huge potential. I think the club will afford him plenty of patience that I doubt he will need to improve. Honestly, I think he just needs to work on his finishing a bit before he can't be ignored.

 

Ward is only backup to Schmeichel. Don't think he needs to be on this list.

 

Mendy and Amartey are good enough to be squad players, but wouldn't really be missed if they were moved on. I think the rest are finished here.

[sacreblueits442]

1 hour ago, OntarioFox said:

Gray, Iheanacho, Ghezzal for sheer lack of application, especially Gray. I feel a little for Ghezzal who has been a bit part since he got here, but none of these three has done anything to yet convince us that they're going to make the grade.

 

Mendy's unlucky really - down the pecking order purely because our midfield is now so talented. Not necessarily a bad player, but he's going to see his minutes limited for sure.

 

Amartey, see Mendy, but with the added caveat of his horrific injury. Needs some gametime, disappointed Sheff Utd. didn't get him in tbh and I have my fingers crossed he gets a loan somewhere in Europe so he can get some meaningful game time under his belt.

Also went for other, since I imagine King needs some good performances in the cup to show he's worth a squad place and to prevent being gracefully asked to move on. I think the boat has already sailed for James in that respect, he'll be off in January to a Champ / League 1 club. I'd like to see one or both go out to OHL, personally.

Didn't bother voting for Slimani, Silva or Diabate - i think all three are finished for us.

Ward is a weird one to include.

...skews the poll somewhat!!!!

  I know this is not to be taken seriously, Slimani in the list seemed strange as many would not want him to set foot on the pitch in Leicester colours. 

For some reason I think Diabate will come good later as I think he is just too eager to impress and does not perform to the best of his abilities. Barnes in the list is off, he just needs to stop snatching at the chances that come to him, he needs to have the confidence to take that split second more on the ball.He would he he was at WBA he just thinks he need to do things quicker in the Prem.