Rodgers Nominated for August Manager of the Month

[StanSP]

No surprise! Unbeaten in 4 and up in 3rd. 

 

https://www.premierleague.com/news/1335073

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August 2019 Barclays Manager shortlist

Pep Guardiola (MCI)
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Seeking an eighth monthly award victory, the Barclays Manager of the Season for the past two campaigns oversaw an unbeaten start to Manchester City’s title defence. His champions won three matches and scored 14 goals while conceding only three.

Roy Hodgson (CRY)
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At 72 years the oldest manager in PL history continues to prove that age is no barrier as he led Crystal Palace to their first Premier League win over Manchester United with a 2-1 triumph at Old Trafford. His side also kept two clean sheets to earn the best defensive record in August and claim fourth place.

Jurgen Klopp (LIV)
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Liverpool's Klopp was the only manager to enjoy a perfect record in August, including a 3-1 victory over Arsenal and a 3-0 success at Burnley that set a club-record 13th Premier League win in succession.

Brendan Rodgers (LEI)
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Rodgers’ unbeaten Leicester City followed up a 1-1 comeback draw at Stamford Bridge with successive victories over Sheffield United and AFC Bournemouth to finish August in third place.

 

 

 

[The Horse's Mouth]

Hope Woy wins it tbf, deserves it got a lot of stick from them lot and hes still doing the business at 72

[Xen]

I know it's supposed to be based just on PL results, but for me Guardiola/Klopp shouldn't really qualify for this unless they've managed it alongside European commitments, over more games in a much busier month like December, or it involves a game against each other. Otherwise they've just done exactly what they've been expected to do. Toughest games were a home draw for City against a misfiring Spurs side, and a home win for Liverpool against Arsenal who can't defend. Not really worthy - imo - of a manager of the month award.

 

Hodgson probably just edges it over Rodgers as there was at least some expectation that we'd do well, whereas Palace were expected to struggle. That said they only scored 3 in 4 games and their results (2 of which against 10 men, and a loss against a promoted side) arent spectacular.

[shen]

1 hour ago, Xen said:

I know it's supposed to be based just on PL results, but for me Guardiola/Klopp shouldn't really qualify for this unless they've managed it alongside European commitments, over more games in a much busier month like December, or it involves a game against each other. Otherwise they've just done exactly what they've been expected to do. Toughest games were a home draw for City against a misfiring Spurs side, and a home win for Liverpool against Arsenal who can't defend. Not really worthy - imo - of a manager of the month award.

 

Hodgson probably just edges it over Rodgers as there was at least some expectation that we'd do well, whereas Palace were expected to struggle. That said they only scored 3 in 4 games and their results (2 of which against 10 men, and a loss against a promoted side) arent spectacular.

Er... So arguably the best managers in the league, who have built the best current sides in the league, should not qualify because you find it unfair? 

It's fine to weigh performances against expectations, but not so long ago Liverpool were far away from being title contenders. A perfect start is obviously no mean feat in the PL, regardless of opposition. After all, they're the only ones on maximum points. 

[Foxin_Mad]

Guardiola/Klopp are superb managers/coaches. They have raised the bar of the English game immeasurably and could be the trigger for a new period of English domination in Europe. 

[Xen]

54 minutes ago, shen said:

Er... So arguably the best managers in the league, who have built the best current sides in the league, should not qualify because you find it unfair? 

It's fine to weigh performances against expectations, but not so long ago Liverpool were far away from being title contenders. A perfect start is obviously no mean feat in the PL, regardless of opposition. After all, they're the only ones on maximum points. 

For me, the MotM award should go to the manager who performs above-and-beyond what's expected of them in a given month, rather than just who performs best statistically-speaking (understandably others will disagree). Otherwise, every award would go to the manager with the most points and it'd never leave the North-West, with lower-tier clubs never able to win it. If, for instance, Liverpool got an undefeated 11/15 points in a April, but relegation-battling Brighton (for instance) win a couple of relegation 6-pointers and finish with 8/15 to drag them to safety, I'd argue that Brighton's manager has done better relatively speaking. By the nature of them being so dominant, that would rule out Liverpool/ManCity from consideration most months.

 

Liverpool have progressed a lot over the last couple of years, but the award is for the last month, and in that time they haven't made huge strides above what was expected. The odds of them taking a maximum in August probably would have been around evens, so doing so - in my opinion - isn't spectacular enough to put them top of the pile for MotM.

 

Not that either Guardiola or Klopp would give a damn about the award, mind you...

[The Horse's Mouth]

57 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Guardiola/Klopp are superb managers/coaches. They have raised the bar of the English game immeasurably and could be the trigger for a new period of English domination in Europe. 

Pep's only reached one quarter final steady on son, the only thing they've raised is a chequebook. 

[Foxin_Mad]

18 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Pep's only reached one quarter final steady on son, the only thing they've raised is a chequebook. 

Think Yanited have done quite a bit of that too, they haven't won anything or reach any quarter finals in a while.

 

I think generally the standard of football is improving thanks to these managers, how many English clubs were in the quarter finals last year? Both European competitions too. It will be interesting to see if naything has changed this year.  

[The Horse's Mouth]

Just now, Foxin_Mad said:

Think Yanited have done quite a bit of that too, they haven't won anything or reach any quarter finals in a while.

 

I think generally the standard of football is improving thanks to these managers, how many English clubs were in the quarter finals last year? Both European competitions too. It will be interesting to see if naything has changed this year.  

But it's nowt really do with the managers, they're impressive yes, it's more to do with the abundance of resources premier league clubs have in comparison to the rest of europe. Realistically, with the amount of financial power clubs in this league now get from television revenue, england should be winning both european competitions every season

[Foxin_Mad]

3 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

But it's nowt really do with the managers, they're impressive yes, it's more to do with the abundance of resources premier league clubs have in comparison to the rest of europe. Realistically, with the amount of financial power clubs in this league now get from television revenue, england should be winning both european competitions every season

Hasn't Spain recently had a glut of TV money also? possibly others. I think La Liga spending this year was actually higher than the Premier League.  Money is silly in football, they are very good managers who have been successful in a number of leagues, I do think they have some impact personally. 

[Koke]

50 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Pep's only reached one quarter final steady on son, the only thing they've raised is a chequebook. 

 

Pep has raised the bar tbh. If you want to win the league you have to get 95-100 points. Nothing less. Man Utd once won the league with 75 points. That would barely get you 4th these days. 

[The Horse's Mouth]

2 minutes ago, Koke said:

 

Pep has raised the bar tbh. If you want to win the league you have to get 95-100 points. Nothing less. Man Utd once won the league with 75 points. That would barely get you 4th these days. 

He's spent like 600/700 million, he should be getting 90 odd points like  this isn't a case of magical tactics or anything, and while he plays a methodical style of play, he was dogshit when he first arrived. Got given more money and now look he's winning trophies, makes you think like

[Foxes1]

Brendan deserves it for getting 80 million for Maguire 

[Fox92]

1 hour ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

But it's nowt really do with the managers, they're impressive yes, it's more to do with the abundance of resources premier league clubs have in comparison to the rest of europe. Realistically, with the amount of financial power clubs in this league now get from television revenue, england should be winning both european competitions every season

It's easy to say that but other managers in recent times haven't done what these managers have done. Klopp has turned Liverpool into one of the best sides in the league, which they haven't been in a long long time (yeah Rodgers finished 2nd but other than that they weren't consistent every season and he didn't win anything). Pep has made Man City one of the best teams in the World, 90 odd points twice is unbelievable for a league season. If it was so easy to win stuff just because of money then Man City would have won the league more times than they have regardless of manager.

[ThaiFox]

Hope BR doesn't win it as I'd like our unbeaten run to continue as long as possible.

 

Odds on if he does win it we'll lose against Man Utd and Harry will score.

[Guest SO1]

Sad that so few realize all the hard work that's contributed by the club and its supporters to an individual achievement by any player/manager etc.

I always have a good laugh at the lie that is the self made man. All of us stand on the achievements of others and and those before us.

Everyone contributes no matter how small it may seem.

[Unabomber]

Well this is in the bag for Brendan 

[volpeazzurro]

3 hours ago, ThaiFox said:

Hope BR doesn't win it as I'd like our unbeaten run to continue as long as possible.

 

Odds on if he does win it we'll lose against Man Utd and Harry will score.

Yes, it could be a bit of a jinx! Personally I don't think he deserves it though. Our position is good but performances largely poor. I'd give it to Woy. 

[Stadt]

Sounds like an overly critical thing to say but Palace have hardly been impressive despite getting impressive results.

[David Hankey]

This should be the first of many. Did Puel achieve this?

[KingsX]

1 hour ago, David Hankey said:

This should be the first of many.

 

Rodgers already won it once with Swansea and twice with Liverpool.

[HighPeakFox]

1 hour ago, David Hankey said:

This should be the first of many. Did Puel achieve this?

[murphy]

On 06/09/2019 at 21:13, David Hankey said:

This should be the first of many. Did Puel achieve this?

Well yes, he was also shortlisted for it in March 2018.

 

https://www.lcfc.com/news/656688/puel-shortlisted-for-manager-of-the-month-award

[Captain...]

On 06/09/2019 at 14:45, Xen said:

For me, the MotM award should go to the manager who performs above-and-beyond what's expected of them in a given month, rather than just who performs best statistically-speaking (understandably others will disagree). Otherwise, every award would go to the manager with the most points and it'd never leave the North-West, with lower-tier clubs never able to win it. If, for instance, Liverpool got an undefeated 11/15 points in a April, but relegation-battling Brighton (for instance) win a couple of relegation 6-pointers and finish with 8/15 to drag them to safety, I'd argue that Brighton's manager has done better relatively speaking. By the nature of them being so dominant, that would rule out Liverpool/ManCity from consideration most months.

 

Liverpool have progressed a lot over the last couple of years, but the award is for the last month, and in that time they haven't made huge strides above what was expected. The odds of them taking a maximum in August probably would have been around evens, so doing so - in my opinion - isn't spectacular enough to put them top of the pile for MotM.

 

Not that either Guardiola or Klopp would give a damn about the award, mind you...

I do agree but anyone taking all the points in offer in a month has to be nominated, not to mention doing so whilst having a very disrupted pre-season, winning the European super cup and dealing with a very key injury. Klopp has to be in the running, whereas Pep dropped points to Spurs and I would say that Wilder deserves to be nominated ahead of both Pep and Roy.

[gerrytaggart]

I voted for Woy.