Suzie the Fox Posted 15 January 2020 Share Posted 15 January 2020 On 12/01/2020 at 14:46, weller54 said: We need a Professional like Martin Shaw. LOL.. i preferred the other one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecdysiast Posted 15 January 2020 Share Posted 15 January 2020 34 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said: LOL.. i preferred the other one Lewis Collins...sadly no longer with us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie the Fox Posted 15 January 2020 Share Posted 15 January 2020 28 minutes ago, Ecdysiast said: Lewis Collins...sadly no longer with us Yes that's the guy and just googled it, didn't know he had died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TaggertvsWise Posted 15 January 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 15 January 2020 Good player Shaw. We have only seen it in fleeting glances between poor managerial appointments. Give him a settled squad, a good manager and a game to suit his undoubted talents and I reckon we could have a player on our hands once he’s run off a few kgs. Experienced, still young and could be a clever signing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 15 January 2020 Share Posted 15 January 2020 1 hour ago, Suzie the Fox said: LOL.. i preferred the other one Bodie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 15 January 2020 Share Posted 15 January 2020 2 hours ago, 49er said: Shaw - no thanks. Cresswell or Digne will do Cresswell is not a good player at all. Especially not for a team with Champions league aspirations. He is barely lower league prem level. Digne is a class act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm1 Posted 15 January 2020 Share Posted 15 January 2020 I've only seen Shaw play one decent game for Man Utd, and that was against us last season. But if the price is right I'd buy him for his potential. The public critiscm he got from Jose, as a young player, it must've been very difficult for him to cope with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALC Fox Posted 15 January 2020 Share Posted 15 January 2020 With my optimistic hat on, Shaw could be the next Ings, i.e. a player whose move to a big club hasn't worked out, who's been beset by problems with fitness and form, but who remains a talented player who needs a fresh start to thrive. With my pessimistic hat on, he's had several chances from several managers and he's currently being kept out of the side by a youth player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 15 January 2020 Share Posted 15 January 2020 1 hour ago, TaggertvsWise said: Good player Shaw. We have only seen it in fleeting glances between poor managerial appointments. Give him a settled squad, a good manager and a game to suit his undoubted talents and I reckon we could have a player on our hands once he’s run off a few kgs. Experienced, still young and could be a clever signing. Often injured and is the highest paid full back in the world, it's a recipe for disaster. Completely goes against our recruitment and scouting policies that have been successful in recent years, pure Congerton this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom12345 Posted 15 January 2020 Share Posted 15 January 2020 Maybe do a Monaco and sign him on loan for 18 months, get Man Utd to pay half his wages, so as to provide competition or as potential replacement for Chilwell, especially if Fuchs may want to go the States after end of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat and 2 veg Posted 15 January 2020 Share Posted 15 January 2020 1 hour ago, Tom12345 said: Maybe do a Monaco and sign him on loan for 18 months, get Man Utd to pay half his wages, so as to provide competition or as potential replacement for Chilwell, especially if Fuchs may want to go the States after end of this season. He’d still be within our top 4/5 earners even with Manchester United paying half his wages ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaggertvsWise Posted 16 January 2020 Share Posted 16 January 2020 12 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Often injured and is the highest paid full back in the world, it's a recipe for disaster. Completely goes against our recruitment and scouting policies that have been successful in recent years, pure Congerton this. I would question if his injury record is a result of club instability from such a young age which will result in several factors: 1) Different managers, styles / training regimes (remember how injured Liverpool players hit when Klopp turned up? Hamstrings popping all over the place) Will have hindered developing a style and role that he can grow into and thrive. 2) He’s never looked ‘fit’ like Chilwell. We have a fairly good record with fitness and it was no surprise that as soon as Chilly started to gradually up his intensity he got fitter and better in a safe environment. 3) I would also question Shaw’s nutrition.... I can’t imagine it’s especially well tailored for recovery or a strict regime, playing a certain way. Playing with us would change all of these things which I believe would have a big impact on the lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy old git Posted 16 January 2020 Share Posted 16 January 2020 FFS it’s a different NO.. NO.. NO from me! plus he is always injured as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 16 January 2020 Share Posted 16 January 2020 51 minutes ago, TaggertvsWise said: I would question if his injury record is a result of club instability from such a young age which will result in several factors: 1) Different managers, styles / training regimes (remember how injured Liverpool players hit when Klopp turned up? Hamstrings popping all over the place) Will have hindered developing a style and role that he can grow into and thrive. 2) He’s never looked ‘fit’ like Chilwell. We have a fairly good record with fitness and it was no surprise that as soon as Chilly started to gradually up his intensity he got fitter and better in a safe environment. 3) I would also question Shaw’s nutrition.... I can’t imagine it’s especially well tailored for recovery or a strict regime, playing a certain way. Playing with us would change all of these things which I believe would have a big impact on the lad. All a huge gamble for someone who even if he took a 50% pay cut would still be on £90k a week here. FCUK THAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaggertvsWise Posted 16 January 2020 Share Posted 16 January 2020 Good shout, I wouldn't want him if he didn't lower his demands to those suited to a fringe Utd player with national squad aspirations who has had limited success in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les-TA-Jon Posted 16 January 2020 Share Posted 16 January 2020 15 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Often injured and is the highest paid full back in the world, it's a recipe for disaster. Completely goes against our recruitment and scouting policies that have been successful in recent years, pure Congerton this. Agree - but is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 16 January 2020 Share Posted 16 January 2020 1 hour ago, Les-TA-Jon said: Agree - but is this true? That's what's been reported. Would seem outrageous given some of the real talent out there but then this is Man Utd we are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 16 January 2020 Share Posted 16 January 2020 Strikes me as similar to Drinky Achieved financial security and lost his motivation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 16 January 2020 Share Posted 16 January 2020 Correct me if i'm wrong, but i haven't actually seen a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaijaFox Posted 16 January 2020 Share Posted 16 January 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said: Cresswell is not a good player at all. Especially not for a team with Champions league aspirations. He is barely lower league prem level. Digne is a class act. That’s not what Evertonians think. Apparently, his form has considerably dropped off from his first season and mist can hardly wait to see the back of him. Edited 16 January 2020 by NaijaFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaijaFox Posted 16 January 2020 Share Posted 16 January 2020 20 hours ago, ALC Fox said: With my optimistic hat on, Shaw could be the next Ings, i.e. a player whose move to a big club hasn't worked out, who's been beset by problems with fitness and form, but who remains a talented player who needs a fresh start to thrive. With my pessimistic hat on, he's had several chances from several managers and he's currently being kept out of the side by a youth player. His reported wages just isn’t worth the gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALC Fox Posted 16 January 2020 Share Posted 16 January 2020 3 hours ago, NaijaFox said: His reported wages just isn’t worth the gamble. Yeah that's a huge stumbling block to be far. There must be way better players on half the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 17 January 2020 Share Posted 17 January 2020 On 15/01/2020 at 23:07, Meat and 2 veg said: He’d still be within our top 4/5 earners even with Manchester United paying half his wages ... As an English CL side, looking to qualify again... those kind of wages will become far more common. You can’t attract or keep quality without paying the right wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 17 January 2020 Share Posted 17 January 2020 15 hours ago, Les-TA-Jon said: Agree - but is this true? No Luke Shaw is on £70k per week, with performance related items taking up higher (up to £150k apparently). He signed a new, 5 year deal in 2018. One can assume that it was related to injury issues. Other world full backs like Marcelo, Kimmech, Walker, Calvajal, Robertson, Alaba or Alba, will all be paid more, as a basic wage. Even Ricardo is on £70k per week! Additional, I’d rather us sign Alex Telles, as a Chilwell replacement. As good as Ricardo for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cujek Posted 17 January 2020 Share Posted 17 January 2020 Could be an absolute beast of player but made of glass, that breaks often. will never live up to his potential and will end up at Sunderland (or the like) when his insane contract at Man Utd runs out as others have said would prefer Digne but i think he would only join an elite club now (Real, Barca, Juve) etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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