Final top 6 and points.

[tetly]

Just did mine I wasn’t generous with our points return fingers crossed we stay where we are.

[ScouseFox]

didn't realise our last two games were spurs and united. holy shmokes we better be 7 points in front of them both with 2 games to go or i'll be weeing my kecks. 

[StanSP]

10 minutes ago, ScouseFox said:

didn't realise our last two games were spurs and united. holy shmokes we better be 7 points in front of them both with 2 games to go or i'll be weeing my kecks. 

Last 3 games are against teams challenging for Europe. I hope we're sorted before then. March and April run of fixtures are relatively favourable... 

[Deeg67]

 No predictor or calculator, just off the top of my head:

 

1. Liverpool - 103

2. MC - 82

3. LC - 68

4. Chelsea - 62

5. Tottenham - 60

6. Wolves - 60

[fuchsntf]

I am going to be a bit cheeky on the points...but the positions are how I See it ending..!!!

 

Liverpool....100-105

Leicester....74-80

Man.city.....75-82

Chelsea......66-70

Wolves........60-64

Sheff.utd.....54-58

Spurs...........53-58

Man.utd.......52-57

 

This is if we see the New Leicester,stand up and come to the fore..against Wolves & Man.city,

then I believe we can steal ourselves back into 2nd place. Man.city might Now put their all,into the 3 cup competitions. They could well walk the Carabao,and FA.cup. The CL will be their covetted goal und target

 

One has to Stay positive,right until the end & the Maths Shows us the happy,satisfying EOS...

 

I do believe,Chelsea will not stutter out of the Top 4

I See Wolves ,having the Stronger Finish than the others,even though some suprising negative turn-arounds..

Just because Spurs,won today,I Dont see them having a strong finish.Though Today will give them a Short fillip .The CL for them could still be interesting...

Chelsea vs Spurs...22nd March,could be a nothing game,or season defining for the "3" of us. Just like 2015/16.Mourhino might Think he still has unfinished Business for this season....!!!

 

Manutd. Will miss a match-fit Rashford, though will still Pick up some 'Good awkward points'

Sheff.utd, IMO Will Stay strong & will carry on being the  the Surprise team...

Positions 6,7 & 8,  could be a mish-mash ,because of the  month of May's games,depends who shuts down the earliest...

 

A small note.!! ..If it does end up as above,Spurs ,Manutd & Arsenal,with no European commitment,and if  still decent squads,could hit back with a vengeance..!!!

 

 

[Chrysalis]

3 hours ago, Sly said:

1. Liverpool - 107 points

2. Manchester City - 87 points

3. Wolverhampton Wanderers - 70 points

4. Tottenham Hotspur - 70 points

5. Leicester City - 69 points

6. Manchester United - 69 points

7. Chelsea - 65 points 

 

........... just my opinion

 

https://www.worldfootball.net/table_calculator/eng-premier-league/

 

 

Using same site.

 

I gave us a poor ppg, but thankfully on my predications the teams chasing us didnt get great ppg either.  

[mozartfox]

The real worrying factor for me in all this is VAR and that Bell-end Referees that seem to have it in for us.  The FA will not want us gate crashing the European gravy train at the expense of the ‘big 6’.   It will ruin Sky Sports punditry discussions and WTF will Glenn Twaddle have to say on BT Sports??

[Deeg67]

I think that's a false worry.  LCFC winning in 2015-16 was great for the PL and us making the CL would be a great story too.  Marketers love Cinderella stories.

[KingsX]

 

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[WigstonWanderer]

I’m sure this has been discussed before but is there anything that could prevent 4th spot giving a champions league place? I’m thinking someone like Wolves outside the top 4 winning Europa League.

[Zear0]

That. I'm lazy. 

[Aus Fox]

17 minutes ago, WigstonWanderer said:

I’m sure this has been discussed before but is there anything that could prevent 4th spot giving a champions league place? I’m thinking someone like Wolves outside the top 4 winning Europa League.

In fact it’s unlikely that any of the Europa League teams will finish in the top 4, so if an English club were to win the Europa League only top 3 would get in.

Good point hadn’t thought of this! I guess we're all Ajax in the Europa League then.

[mozartfox]

41 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

In fact it’s unlikely that any of the Europa League teams will finish in the top 4, so if an English club were to win the Europa League only top 3 would get in.

Good point hadn’t thought of this! I guess we're all Ajax in the Europa League then.

So we had better finish 3rd or we could be Christian Fuched.

[North Leeds Fox]

46 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

In fact it’s unlikely that any of the Europa League teams will finish in the top 4, so if an English club were to win the Europa League only top 3 would get in.

Good point hadn’t thought of this! I guess we're all Ajax in the Europa League then.

The only way that it goes down to the top 3 in the league is if the champions league and europa league are won by teams outside our top 4. It  changed in 2018 so that any nation could have 5 representatives. So as the table stands it would have to currently be wolves/man u/arsenal winning europa and spurs winning cl for only the top 3 to get CL

[Aus Fox]

2 minutes ago, North Leeds Fox said:

The only way that it goes down to the top 3 in the league is if the champions league and europa league are won by teams outside our top 4. It  changed in 2018 so that any nation could have 5 representatives. So as the table stands it would have to currently be wolves/man u/arsenal winning europa and spurs winning cl for only the top 3 to get CL

Thanks @North Leeds Fox, I stand corrected @WigstonWanderer a much better answer.

[North Leeds Fox]

Just now, Aus Fox said:

Thanks @North Leeds Fox, I stand corrected @WigstonWanderer a much better answer.

No worries at all. I only know as I had a wild panic about finishing 4th and missing out last week so had a look at UEFA website  always feel in a safe position if our qualification is reliant upon spurs having to win a trophy 

[st albans fox]

3 minutes ago, North Leeds Fox said:

No worries at all. I only know as I had a wild panic about finishing 4th and missing out last week so had a look at UEFA website  always feel in a safe position if our qualification is reliant upon spurs having to win a trophy 

Well everyone on the PL thread reckons spurs are going to finish above us so that won’t matter either as they would also be top 4 !

 

 

[North Leeds Fox]

Just now, st albans fox said:

Well everyone on the PL thread reckons spurs are going to finish above us so that won’t matter either as they would also be top 4 

That isn't going to happen. They need to win 10 of their last 13 or something like that.

 

Their next 5 is villa away, chelsea away, wolves at home, burnley away, man u at home. I cant see them winning more than 3 of them so would need to win 7 of last 8 and then would have to batter our goal difference too. 

[KrefelderFox666]

I was being a little positive but also a bit realistic. I think I was being harsh on Utd and Arsenal but oh well.

 

[Guest Danny Clender]

Same from me really.

 

Via a predictor, I had us down for 3rd on 70 points and I felt harsh on most of the Leicester predictions, played Devil's advocate really. 

So, let's see.

Top 4 is ours to lose....oh dear. 

[Guest]

pool 107

Manc 97

Leicester 78

Chelsea 63

Spurs 62

Wolves 61

 

Manure 8th

Arsenal 10th

 

villa, Norwich West ham relegated, Brighton stay up on GD

[Guest Fktf]

What is quite nice about doing these predictors is that you realise just how many games the chasing teams have to play against each other - plenty of opportunity for dropped points. I'm less concerned than I was.

[weller54]

4 hours ago, FIF said:

pool 107

Manc 97

Leicester 78

Chelsea 63

Spurs 62

Wolves 61

 

Manure 8th

Arsenal 10th

 

villa, Norwich West ham relegated, Brighton stay up on GD

Man City 97??

[MrsJohnMurphy]

>>

 

#	Team		M.	W.	D.	L.	Goals	Dif.	Pt.
1		Liverpool FC	38	34	2	2	83:30	53	104
2		Manchester City	38	27	5	6	89:42	47	86
3		Leicester City	38	21	9	8	73:41	32	72
4		Chelsea FC	38	17	12	9	61:48	13	63
5		Tottenham Hotspur	38	15	15	8	58:45	13	60
6		Wolverhampton Wanderers	38	14	18	6	54:45	9	60
7		Manchester United	38	13	17	8	53:42	11	56
8		Sheffield United	38	12	19	7	42:36	6	55
9		Everton FC	38	13	13	12	47:51	-4	52
10		Arsenal FC	38	9	21	8	48:49	-1	48
11		Newcastle United	38	11	12	15	40:54	-14	45
12		Burnley FC	38	9	14	15	41:54	-13	41
13		Southampton FC	38	10	11	17	45:64	-19	41
14		Watford FC	38	10	10	18	41:58	-17	40
15		Brighton & Hove Albion	38	8	15	15	45:54	-9	39
16		Crystal Palace	38	8	11	19	35:51	-16	35
17		AFC Bournemouth	38	9	8	21	40:59	-19	35
18		Aston Villa	38	8	10	20	46:66	-20	34
19		West Ham United	38	6	11	21	43:64	-21	29
20		Norwich City	38	4	11	23	37:68	-31	23

[davieG]

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/who-make-premier-league-top-21421315

 

Who will make Premier League top four? Football writers debate who is best equipped
Leicester, Chelsea, Tottenham, Sheffield United, Manchester United, Wolves and Everton all remain in the race to snap up a place in next season's Champions League

ByAaron Flanagan
13:55, 3 FEB 2020UPDATED15:07, 3 FEB 2020

In theory, the race for the top four in the Premier League is currently involving nine teams.

Liverpool and Manchester City have all but wrapped up their places with the elite - and it's likely Leicester will join them too, even after a recent wobble.

But the fourth spot is anyone's for the taking. Leicester, Chelsea, Tottenham, Sheffield United, Manchester United, Wolves and Everton all remain in the race to snap up a place in next season's Champions League.

 

But who is going to make the top four?

 

We posed the question to some of Starsport's writers - and there is an overwhelming favourite to secure that fourth place berth...

Jeremy Cross
Liverpool
Leicester
Man City
Tottenham
The top one is done and dusted, leaving the also rans to scrap it out for respect and a Champions League place.

Despite a recent blip, Leicester remain a free scoring and fast-flowing side capable of finishing second ahead of Manchester City, who appear to be harbouring problems we don't know about yet.

Something is not right at City, but they still have more than enough quality to finish third.

Chelsea appear to be going backwards and don't have the strength in depth to maintain fourth, meaning a gradually improving Tottenham will pip them to it.

Goals from Steven Bergwijn and Heung-Min Son of Tottenham Hotspur handed them all three points

Paul Brown
Liverpool
Man City
Leicester
Chelsea
Six defeats for City this season. How the mighty have fallen. City’s title defence has been appallingly bad. Where is the intensity? The fight? 

Pep Guardiola’s arrogance in thinking he could get by without buying a centre back hasn’t helped, but really, it’s humiliating to be this far behind Liverpool.

They will finish second because their squad is still far stronger than anyone else’s, so a deep Champions League run shouldn’t hurt. But second isn’t good enough for City.

Leicester should be good enough for third. They are better than anyone in the chasing pack and shown some backbone after a recent wobble.

The points are in the bag and it would take an almighty collapse for them to drop out of the Champions League places. It’s not going to happen.

Yes, Chelsea is a young team but they have a four-point gap and should be good enough to hold on despite failing to buy a striker.

Is anyone else good enough to catch them? Tottenham look capable but they will struggle to win close games without Harry Kane.

Sheffield United can grind out results but do they win enough games? Probably not. And Manchester United just look too far away.

 

Ian Murtagh
Liverpool
Man City
Leicester
Tottenham
OK, outside of Manchester and North and West London, we'd all love Sheffield United to nick fourth spot but sadly, it's not going to happen.

Consistency has been the key to achieving a top four finish most years but not this time around with Chelsea, Tottenham and Manchester United all having already lost eight games.

 I'm taking Spurs to nick fourth spot ahead of Chelsea. Harry Kane's absence at one end of the pitch can be offset by the return of Hugo Lloris at the other. ends

 

Warren Muggleton
Liverpool
Man City
Leicester
Wolves
Liverpool and Manchester City’s places are in the bag this season, so it’s a battle for third and fourth. 

A bit rogue, but Chelsea and Manchester United face blocks of fixtures against top seven teams which - combined with potential European campaigns – could derail them. 

While Leicester and Wolves face cup tournaments, their more generous run of home games could be the vital difference in the last third of the season.

Rhys Daly
Liverpool
Man City
Leicester
Tottenham
Brendan Rodgers’ Foxes have surprised nearly everyone by forging a 12-point gap over fifth place with only 13 fixtures remaining.

Although the form of Jamie Vardy might be a worry, Leicester will have enough to secure a return to the Champions League after their impressive run to the quarter-finals back in 2016/17.

James Maddison and his team-mates should keep themselves above the pending battle between Manchester United, Chelsea, Tottenham and maybe even Sheffield United - which will be a fine reward for a magnificent season.

With Jose Mourinho’s masterclass coming off in perfect fashion against Manchester City, I’m backing Spurs to catch and surpass Frank Lampard’s Chelsea.

 

Joshua Peck
Liverpool
Man City
Leicester
Tottenham
The top two picks itself, even with a poor City result at Tottenham on Sunday.

But that performance shows that Spurs can force their way ahead of Chelsea. It was a Jose Mourinho masterclass, helped by poor City finishing, and the Portuguese boss should be able to build on that in the second half of the season.

Leicester have a big enough lead in third to not worry about the teams behind them. What a season it has been for the Foxes again.

Archie Griggs
Liverpool
Man City
Leicester
Tottenham
Obviously Liverpool are storming to the title and Manchester City look set for second place in the Premier League this year.

Leicester are still looking strong and having kept the likes of James Maddison past January they should seal their place in next year's Champions League, while Spurs will improve with the addition of Bergwijn and will be hoping to snatch fourth.

However, Chelsea under Frank Lampard have been far from perfect this season and they could be the ones to miss out on a top-four finish.